Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • I'm sitting this one out
    Biden 47 years in politics and has not accomplished shit 
    How do you know this? Where did you read up on Joe Biden to know that he hasn't accomplished shit?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Biden 47 years in politics and has not accomplished shit 

    trump 3 3/4 years 
    Lowest  unemployment ever 
    best economy ever
    al this is true until China virus hit 

    How was your 4K doing
    You  sure the he’ll weren’t complaining while your 4 k was growing at a rapid rate 
    Trump? Is that you?

    Why are you wasting your valuable time here? You need to get back out on the campaign to assure us great victory!! MAGA
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I just find it funny I mentioned a few facts. The laptop has a paper trail back to Hunter. His former partner has confirmed the emails are real. And that somehow means I think Trump is perfect, I'm clearly bias, means I don't care about anything Trump does wrong.

    Why only the extremes? I don't like Trump. He's embarrassing and has done things I don't agree with. I can say that and still be critical of others. Seems like many hear have to defend Biden at all costs or it means you're hard for Trump.
    Did you vote for Trump in 16?
    Does matter who he voted for 
    he’s not ignoring the fact 
    that the evidence is out there joe is corrupt 
    Who's most corrupt do you think - Trump or Joe?
    Joe will be labeled corrupt soon officially 
    I mean, that's probably true. Trump's second term is going to be a revenge tour and a lot of people that have spend time in his way are probably going to go to jail regarless of whether they ever did anything.  Meanwhile, the administration is going to be stealing money from the people they are "serving." Right in the open. The answer of which one is more corrupt is staring us right in the face. The second term will be interesting. Anyone who isn't under Trump's spell knows he's a narcissist.  So will the corruption, the work for Russia, the kleptocracy, get worse without a third term to run for or will he act the same (reserved, I guess) and try to preserve it for the only other person he might care about aside from himself, Ivanka.
    This coming from a man supports a candidate 
    who is taking money from China ok 

    The First Daughter is making a shit-ton of money in China.  Not to mention the First Family getting most of its money from Russia for decades...who do they owe $400 million to, anyway? Your guy has ulterior motives coming out of his ears. He owes a lot of favors with how he conducts himself and none of it it to Americans.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    best economy ever
    Aren't you having like crazy poverty levels in your country? People not being able to afford health care. Etc. Doesn't sound like a very "best" economy at all. I prefer the nordic countries economies. The bestest. Strive for that.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    Taxes next Tuesday as well?
    Yes. Also on the same day Ten club will  be accepting preorders of Benny vinyl and all the 98 posters.   
    Will we get our missing Christmas singles too?
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  • Biden 47 years in politics and has not accomplished shit 

    trump 3 3/4 years 
    Lowest  unemployment ever 
    best economy ever
    al this is true until China virus hit 

    How was your 4K doing
    You  sure the he’ll weren’t complaining while your 4 k was growing at a rapid rate 
    Half of all 'Muricans aren't in the stock market and don't have 401Ks. And when did that economic turnaround begin? The day Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat descended the escalator? Or was it on election day? Maybe when he was inuagurated? Or was it when he served at least a year and his policies had time to take effect? 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I just find it funny I mentioned a few facts. The laptop has a paper trail back to Hunter. His former partner has confirmed the emails are real. And that somehow means I think Trump is perfect, I'm clearly bias, means I don't care about anything Trump does wrong.

    Why only the extremes? I don't like Trump. He's embarrassing and has done things I don't agree with. I can say that and still be critical of others. Seems like many hear have to defend Biden at all costs or it means you're hard for Trump.
    Did you vote for Trump in 16?
    Does matter who he voted for 
    he’s not ignoring the fact 
    that the evidence is out there joe is corrupt 
    Who's most corrupt do you think - Trump or Joe?
    Joe will be labeled corrupt soon officially 
    I mean, that's probably true. Trump's second term is going to be a revenge tour and a lot of people that have spend time in his way are probably going to go to jail regarless of whether they ever did anything.  Meanwhile, the administration is going to be stealing money from the people they are "serving." Right in the open. The answer of which one is more corrupt is staring us right in the face. The second term will be interesting. Anyone who isn't under Trump's spell knows he's a narcissist.  So will the corruption, the work for Russia, the kleptocracy, get worse without a third term to run for or will he act the same (reserved, I guess) and try to preserve it for the only other person he might care about aside from himself, Ivanka.
    This coming from a man supports a candidate 
    who is taking money from China ok 

    If you take a list of things that each person has been accused of and stack them next to one another, Trump is king of that pile.  The poop pile.

    This is why most people laugh when they are told how bad Great Grandfather Joe is by Trump lovers. 
    If the way you are judging who you are voting for is on skeletons in the closet you would never, ever, support the Orange fellow.  There is no logic in jumping up and down and crying "Laptop!"



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  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Biden 47 years in politics and has not accomplished shit 

    trump 3 3/4 years 
    Lowest  unemployment ever 
    best economy ever
    al this is true until China virus hit 

    How was your 4K doing
    You  sure the he’ll weren’t complaining while your 4 k was growing at a rapid rate 
    Why does is sound like you just parrot the few lines Trump himself has and repeat?
    Facts speak for itself

  • I'm sitting this one out
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Taxes next Tuesday as well?
    Yes. Also on the same day Ten club will  be accepting preorders of Benny vinyl and all the 98 posters.   
    Will we get our missing Christmas singles too?
    Don't be silly.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    best economy ever
    Aren't you having like crazy poverty levels in your country? People not being able to afford health care. Etc. Doesn't sound like a very "best" economy at all. I prefer the nordic countries economies. The bestest. Strive for that.

    In the United States, we measure our economy based on how the rich are doing.
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    Biden 47 years in politics and has not accomplished shit 

    trump 3 3/4 years 
    Lowest  unemployment ever 
    best economy ever
    al this is true until China virus hit 

    How was your 4K doing
    You  sure the he’ll weren’t complaining while your 4 k was growing at a rapid rate 
    Why does is sound like you just parrot the few lines Trump himself has and repeat?
    Facts speak for itself

    Haven't seen a single fact coming from you. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Biden
    Biden 47 years in politics and has not accomplished shit 

    trump 3 3/4 years 
    Lowest  unemployment ever 
    best economy ever
    al this is true until China virus hit 

    How was your 4K doing
    You  sure the he’ll weren’t complaining while your 4 k was growing at a rapid rate 

    Are you typing using your hands?
    :fearful: 
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  • KingJeremyD
    KingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-interview-request-hunter-biden-ex-associate-tony-bobulinski-senate-committee Explain this’ So hunters ex pattern is just making this all up What would he benefit from coming out with info? Besides doing the right thing
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Biden
    Would the two most vocal posters regarding Hunter Biden's laptop please link to where the information they purport to be "fact," is described as such and by whom? Please? A Rupert Murdoch mouth piece, piece (he sure as hell ruined what used to be a reliable source of news and information, dumbing it down as he did). Oh, and lets not forgot who's yacht Steve O was taken off of during an arrest for, what was it again, illegal lobbying, money laundering, influence peddling, tax evasion or some such:

    A Wall Street Journal columnist said Joe Biden was part of Hunter’s business deal. Hours later, its news reporters said the opposite.

    Oct. 23, 2020 at 2:36 p.m. EDT
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    Readers of the Wall Street Journal may have felt a bit of whiplash on Thursday over a news story and an opinion column that presented sharply conflicting accounts of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s alleged role in one of his son’s business ventures.

    The Journal column — hailed as a bombshell before the final presidential debate by Biden critics, including President Trump — asserted that Biden was involved in a deal arranged by his son Hunter with a Chinese energy conglomerate in 2017.

    Columnist Kimberley Strassel relied on the account of Hunter Biden’s former business partner, Tony Bobulinski, who provided documents that “suggest Hunter was cashing in on the Biden name and that Joe Biden was involved.”

    But a few hours after Strassel’s column was published, the Journal’s news side offered a much different take.

    “The venture . . . never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter,” Journal reporters Andrew Duehren and James Areddy wrote. “Corporate records reviewed by the Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden.” The reporters also quoted another partner in the venture, James Gilliar, who said he was “unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former vice president.”

    Biden has long denied that he ever had foreign business dealings with his son, and there is no evidence beyond Bobulinski’s assertions. Trump himself has faced questions about foreign business interests while serving as president.

    Dueling accounts from the same publication about a major news story are rare. Also unusual: Opinion columnists typically don’t attempt to break news. Large, mainstream news organizations such as the Journal manage their news-reporting and opinion operations separately. The Journal’s news side is under editor in chief Matthew Murray; Paul A. Gigot is editor of its editorial page.

    In the Journal’s case, there’s an ongoing civil war between its news staff and its opinion side, as well as a wider war among news organizations controlled by the family of media baron Rupert Murdoch.

    In July, more than 280 employees at the Journal and its parent company, Dow Jones, protested what they said was the spread of “misinformation” by the paper’s opinion pages. “Opinion’s lack of fact-checking and transparency, and its apparent disregard for evidence, undermine our readers’ trust and our ability to gain credibility with sources,” the employees wrote to new publisher Almar Latour. “Many readers already cannot tell the difference between reporting and Opinion. And from those who know of the divide, reporters nonetheless face questions about the Journal’s accuracy and fairness because of errors published in opinion.”

    The letter cited a column by Vice President Pence in which he asserted that concerns about a second wave of coronavirus infections were “overblown.”

    In response, the editorial board posted “A Note to Readers,” in which it vowed that its writers “won’t wilt under cancel-culture pressure.”

    Strassel is a prominent conservative writer who is a member of the Journal’s editorial board and a Fox News contributor. She is the author of a book published last year titled “Resistance (At All Costs): How Trump Haters Are Breaking America.” Trump publicly praised her book and has retweeted her comments dozens of times.

    Her Thursday column on the Bidens — titled “The Biden ‘Family Legacy’” — was republished by FoxNews.com, but the Journal’s news story on the same topic was not.

    Fox News’s opinion hosts have aggressively pushed allegations of corruption involving Hunter Biden’s work for a Ukrainian energy company. New allegations were reported last week by the New York Post, which cited emails from a laptop allegedly owned by Hunter Biden.

    Joe Biden’s campaign has denied the allegations, which have been promoted by Trump allies Stephen K. Bannon and Rudolph W. Giuliani and embraced by Trump’s reelection campaign. On Thursday, Trump sought to highlight the allegations by inviting Bobulinski to the presidential debate in Nashville.

    The Washington Post has been unable to independently verify the emails or to obtain a copy of the hard drive that Bannon and Giuliani allege was owned by Hunter Biden. News accounts have said the Ukrainian allegations against Biden are part of a disinformation campaign by Russian intelligence agents to boost Trump’s reelection.

    The New York Post, Journal and Fox News are all owned by companies in which Murdoch and his family are the controlling shareholders.

    Neither Strassel nor Wall Street Journal editor Murray responded to requests for comment.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/a-wall-street-journal-columnist-said-joe-biden-was-part-of-hunters-business-deal-hours-later-its-news-reporters-said-the-opposite/2020/10/23/c4f9689a-1532-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.html

    Open and shut case folks, don't vote Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden, he's corrupt. Or could be. Or maybe. Just a little. A tad. Or maybe was. Once. Can't trust him. China will make him bow. The "truth" will come out.

    Come on Hal...you’re gonna believe some investigative reporting over America’s mayor Ruddy Ghouliani.  
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    Biden
    Biden 47 years in politics and has not accomplished shit 

    trump 3 3/4 years 
    Lowest  unemployment ever 
    best economy ever
    al this is true until China virus hit 

    How was your 4K doing
    You  sure the he’ll weren’t complaining while your 4 k was growing at a rapid rate 
    Why does is sound like you just parrot the few lines Trump himself has and repeat?
    Facts speak for itself

    Haven't seen a single fact coming from you. 
    Everyone knows that facts, like the weather and reality, have a liberal bias
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,068
    Biden
    I’ve been a pj for many years
    been to over 50 shows 
    Furthest i traveled was Brazil to see em 
    the Democrats have went way far left in recent years 

    with the band supporting this 
    will make it petty hard for me to support the band 

    you can bash me all you want
    imo
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-interview-request-hunter-biden-ex-associate-tony-bobulinski-senate-committee Explain this’ So hunters ex pattern is just making this all up What would he benefit from coming out with info? Besides doing the right thing
    Who's the most corrupt - Trump or Joe?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out


    (Biden's team is doing some fun stuff)
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    Biden
    Please stick to the thread topic please, not each other.

    Falling down,...not staying down