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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    The Juggler said:

    Never higher than his deplorable base percentage. Odd, that.
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  • tbergs
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    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    How much you wanna bet Trump trots our Tara Reade tomorrow night?
    Tara who?


    He may go after Bidens son and illegal China loans.

    I would think this only helps Biden, who can simply reply,

    ”folks, if you have any doubts about my dealings with Ukraine, you can go online right now and look at my tax returns for the last 20 years.

    lets demand trump does the same and make his tax returns available to you.”
    I think you’d have to include a physical threat in your answer. He doesn’t respond to questions about hunter without including a threat.
    Really? When did he threaten someone?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    How much you wanna bet Trump trots our Tara Reade tomorrow night?
    Tara who?


    He may go after Bidens son and illegal China loans.

    I would think this only helps Biden, who can simply reply,

    ”folks, if you have any doubts about my dealings with Ukraine, you can go online right now and look at my tax returns for the last 20 years.

    lets demand trump does the same and make his tax returns available to you.”
    I think you’d have to include a physical threat in your answer. He doesn’t respond to questions about hunter without including a threat.
    Really? When did he threaten someone?
    I was wondering the same thing. Maybe the OP forgot the /s thingy?
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  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    So anxious for tonight. 

    Biden is in a very good position heading into the final five weeks. Despite what you might hear, he is in a much better position than HRC was at this time four years ago. 

    But a lot can still happen and these debates, though most voters than in a typical election year have already made up their minds, are still a big deal and the last things that the candidates can control themselves. I am thankful that even up through this morning the Trump campaign and his dumb surrogates keep setting the bar really low for Joe. It's as if they are doing the Biden campaign's job for them. 

    Joe just has to keep his cool and stay on message and not engage in Trump's childish attacks. He's gonna have slip ups, we know that. But I think it is important for him to stay above the fray and not lose his cool. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    So anxious for tonight. 

    Biden is in a very good position heading into the final five weeks. Despite what you might hear, he is in a much better position than HRC was at this time four years ago. 

    But a lot can still happen and these debates, though most voters than in a typical election year have already made up their minds, are still a big deal and the last things that the candidates can control themselves. I am thankful that even up through this morning the Trump campaign and his dumb surrogates keep setting the bar really low for Joe. It's as if they are doing the Biden campaign's job for them. 

    Joe just has to keep his cool and stay on message and not engage in Trump's childish attacks. He's gonna have slip ups, we know that. But I think it is important for him to stay above the fray and not lose his cool. 
    yeah some of it is just insane....Biden is "losing it" and has dementia yet they also say that all of his responses will be memorized, etc. which makes absolutely no sense.
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  • static111
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    Biden
    I am looking forward to the debate.  Hoping for Biden coming out looking so strong that the trump supporters will have to overload their cognitive dissonance circuit.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Biden
    static111 said:
    I am looking forward to the debate.  Hoping for Biden coming out looking so strong that the trump supporters will have to overload their cognitive dissonance circuit.
    I'm sure they will focus on any verbal gaffe and repeat it ad nauseum.  
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • tbergs
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    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    static111 said:
    I am looking forward to the debate.  Hoping for Biden coming out looking so strong that the trump supporters will have to overload their cognitive dissonance circuit.
    I'm sure they will focus on any verbal gaffe and repeat it ad nauseum.  
    What Biden needs to do is have some fun with this and come out and ask Chris Wallace, "Where am I? And why is the Apprentice here?"
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden ought to come out like a boxer, shuffle his feet, jab his arms, throw uppercuts, left jabs and overhead rights, dance around Team Trump Treason's podium, throw jabs and juke and jive, show off his fancy footwork, then sidle backwards to his podium, in an Ali-esque pose, one hand down low, the other across his chest like Ali in the rope-a-dope, get behind his podium and stare Team Trump Treason down for the whole time Team Trump Treason makes his opening statement.
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  • static111
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    Biden
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    static111 said:
    I am looking forward to the debate.  Hoping for Biden coming out looking so strong that the trump supporters will have to overload their cognitive dissonance circuit.
    I'm sure they will focus on any verbal gaffe and repeat it ad nauseum.  
    What Biden needs to do is have some fun with this and come out and ask Chris Wallace, "Where am I? And why is the Apprentice here?"
    That would be incredible
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    static111 said:
    I am looking forward to the debate.  Hoping for Biden coming out looking so strong that the trump supporters will have to overload their cognitive dissonance circuit.
    I'm sure they will focus on any verbal gaffe and repeat it ad nauseum.  
    What Biden needs to do is have some fun with this and come out and ask Chris Wallace, "Where am I? And why is the Apprentice here?"
    that would be hilarious
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    Biden’s camp:  request several times in the last few w weeks that there be two 30 minute breaks during tonight’s debate, one after the first 30 mins and the second after the next 30 mins.

    trump camp refuses.

    trump camp: requests both trump and Biden undergo drug tests.

    biden camp refuses.

    trump camp: requests that trump and Biden have a quick check for electronic aids such as ear pieces before the start of the event.

    Biden camp refuses.

    This is going to be very entertaining.  Biden would make an excellent Walmart greeter, jury is still out about prez.

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Biden
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Biden’s camp:  request several times in the last few w weeks that there be two 30 minute breaks during tonight’s debate, one after the first 30 mins and the second after the next 30 mins.

    trump camp refuses.

    trump camp: requests both trump and Biden undergo drug tests.

    biden camp refuses.

    trump camp: requests that trump and Biden have a quick check for electronic aids such as ear pieces before the start of the event.

    Biden camp refuses.

    This is going to be very entertaining.  Biden would make an excellent Walmart greeter, jury is still out about prez.

    Let me guess....your source about the breaks is a youtube video?
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Biden’s camp:  request several times in the last few w weeks that there be two 30 minute breaks during tonight’s debate, one after the first 30 mins and the second after the next 30 mins.

    trump camp refuses.

    trump camp: requests both trump and Biden undergo drug tests.

    biden camp refuses.

    trump camp: requests that trump and Biden have a quick check for electronic aids such as ear pieces before the start of the event.

    Biden camp refuses.

    This is going to be very entertaining.  Biden would make an excellent Walmart greeter, jury is still out about prez.

    The 30 minute break bit is total bullshit.  It's televised. How would that even be possible?  Quit peddling bullshit. 

    Biden debated Sanders for 2 hours in the spring and won the debate.  Sanders is a helluva lot more formidable on policy issues than Trump.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    Biden
    The drug test idea is dumb even by Trump standards, but I don't see why Biden wouldn't agree to a check on a listening device. I mean, he won't be wearing one right? So why not just say yes, and let some Trump goon look behind his ear before he goes out? Then it's one less conspiracy Trump can peddle during (or after) the debate. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,852
    edited September 2020
    cincybearcat said:
    It's the perfect opportunity for some Biden one liners...

    - I was going to bring in all the former members of your election campaign or administration that have been indicted WITCH HUNT but we would have exceeded the room capacity

    - Same as above regarding sexual assault victims or ex-wives

    - Donald - look around this room...everyone you see pays more taxes than you do...FAKE NEWS I PAY MILLIONS IN TAXES

    I mean so many

    Biden needs to be real careful with those types of attack. Check out where I added caps above - that’s where Biden can be attacked for “fake news.“

    id go with similar but stick close to “trump the  cheater” line of attack (sorry if I already posted this)-


    if trump starts cheating like he did when he rudely interrupted Clinton constantly biden should say:

    "Excuse me mr trump but the rules say its my turn to speak. So when will you stop cheating?

    After you cheated to...


    Cheat on your taxes so nurses and firemen and tradesmen need to pay more income tax? Just release your income taxes and we can prove you right

    You cheated when you asked russia for help?

    Cheated by making  illegal compaign contributions to hide the fact you cheated on your wife soon after your son was born and made your lawyer sit in jail for 15 months hiding your cheating?

    When you made up lies about my family and used taxpayer money to try to cheat on this election?

    So please mr trump, please steal my 2 minutes and tell americans how you will continue cheating.



     



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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    The drug test idea is dumb even by Trump standards, but I don't see why Biden wouldn't agree to a check on a listening device. I mean, he won't be wearing one right? So why not just say yes, and let some Trump goon look behind his ear before he goes out? Then it's one less conspiracy Trump can peddle during (or after) the debate. 
    I think you give no credibility to any of Trump's accusations.  He could just as easily claim that they DID find one and the fake news won't report it.  You don't even play the game with him. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    The drug test idea is dumb even by Trump standards, but I don't see why Biden wouldn't agree to a check on a listening device. I mean, he won't be wearing one right? So why not just say yes, and let some Trump goon look behind his ear before he goes out? Then it's one less conspiracy Trump can peddle during (or after) the debate. 
    I think you give no credibility to any of Trump's accusations.  He could just as easily claim that they DID find one and the fake news won't report it.  You don't even play the game with him. 
    Then have it video-taped or something. I dunno, of all of Trump's outrageous claims, Biden wearing an earpiece during a debate wouldn't crack the top 100. 
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    The drug test idea is dumb even by Trump standards, but I don't see why Biden wouldn't agree to a check on a listening device. I mean, he won't be wearing one right? So why not just say yes, and let some Trump goon look behind his ear before he goes out? Then it's one less conspiracy Trump can peddle during (or after) the debate. 
    I think you give no credibility to any of Trump's accusations.  He could just as easily claim that they DID find one and the fake news won't report it.  You don't even play the game with him. 
    Then have it video-taped or something. I dunno, of all of Trump's outrageous claims, Biden wearing an earpiece during a debate wouldn't crack the top 100. 
    That's precisely why you don't entertain it.  It's just an outrageous claim, let it stay that way.  The only people who care are his base.  His accusations feel ridiculous, as he has lost the credibility that every other president has.  More than 50% of the country thinks he's full of shit all the time.  I don't know, I would just ignore the whole thing personally, like the drug test.  Remember the "Rule of Trump".. every accusation is a confession. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,852
    mrussel1 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    The drug test idea is dumb even by Trump standards, but I don't see why Biden wouldn't agree to a check on a listening device. I mean, he won't be wearing one right? So why not just say yes, and let some Trump goon look behind his ear before he goes out? Then it's one less conspiracy Trump can peddle during (or after) the debate. 
    I think you give no credibility to any of Trump's accusations.  He could just as easily claim that they DID find one and the fake news won't report it.  You don't even play the game with him. 
     Biden has to stick to trump the cheater line of attack like I posted above.

    if trump tries dirty tricks like this,

    mr president the rules were agreed to. Stop trying to cheat like you do with everything else.

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