I mean, there's a reason that so many artists and entertainers revere MSG. I've seen 6 shows there. Two of them have been legendary and the other 4 pretty much fell in line with the 35+ others I've seen. Every show has a chance to be something special. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere. With MSG, the hype is huge. And with it being a one and done and no other shows nearby, the hype will be even more so than usual. I'm excited for it, but no more excited than I would be if I had tickets to any other city on this tour.
It will be funny when Oklahoma or Phoenix ends up being the should not have missed show of the tour.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
I mean, there's a reason that so many artists and entertainers revere MSG. I've seen 6 shows there. Two of them have been legendary and the other 4 pretty much fell in line with the 35+ others I've seen. Every show has a chance to be something special. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere. With MSG, the hype is huge. And with it being a one and done and no other shows nearby, the hype will be even more so than usual. I'm excited for it, but no more excited than I would be if I had tickets to any other city on this tour.
It will be funny when Oklahoma or Phoenix ends up being the should not have missed show of the tour.
People will look at setlists and say that, because they played Dirty Frank in the first encore or whatever. But in the building, at the show, MSG crowds are the best. Even the bootlegs don't really capture it. And I have high expectations for this one based on how many fan club tickets appear to have gone out, and how lucky everyone feels to just be in the building.
Go take a look at the StubHub map for this show right now. Nothing available in the floor reserved sections. Almost nothing available in the 100 level in front of the stage Nothing available across from the stage, and only a smattering of high rows in the 200 sides. That arena is going to be full of fan club members.
I mean, there's a reason that so many artists and entertainers revere MSG. I've seen 6 shows there. Two of them have been legendary and the other 4 pretty much fell in line with the 35+ others I've seen. Every show has a chance to be something special. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere. With MSG, the hype is huge. And with it being a one and done and no other shows nearby, the hype will be even more so than usual. I'm excited for it, but no more excited than I would be if I had tickets to any other city on this tour.
It will be funny when Oklahoma or Phoenix ends up being the should not have missed show of the tour.
People will look at setlists and say that, because they played Dirty Frank in the first encore or whatever. But in the building, at the show, MSG crowds are the best. Even the bootlegs don't really capture it. And I have high expectations for this one based on how many fan club tickets appear to have gone out, and how lucky everyone feels to just be in the building.
Go take a look at the StubHub map for this show right now. Nothing available in the floor reserved sections. Almost nothing available in the 100 level in front of the stage Nothing available across from the stage, and only a smattering of high rows in the 200 sides. That arena is going to be full of fan club members.
I mean, there's a reason that so many artists and entertainers revere MSG. I've seen 6 shows there. Two of them have been legendary and the other 4 pretty much fell in line with the 35+ others I've seen. Every show has a chance to be something special. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere. With MSG, the hype is huge. And with it being a one and done and no other shows nearby, the hype will be even more so than usual. I'm excited for it, but no more excited than I would be if I had tickets to any other city on this tour.
It will be funny when Oklahoma or Phoenix ends up being the should not have missed show of the tour.
People will look at setlists and say that, because they played Dirty Frank in the first encore or whatever. But in the building, at the show, MSG crowds are the best. Even the bootlegs don't really capture it. And I have high expectations for this one based on how many fan club tickets appear to have gone out, and how lucky everyone feels to just be in the building.
Go take a look at the StubHub map for this show right now. Nothing available in the floor reserved sections. Almost nothing available in the 100 level in front of the stage Nothing available across from the stage, and only a smattering of high rows in the 200 sides. That arena is going to be full of fan club members.
I've been to many shows at MSG, PJ and otherwise. Some have been absolutely amazing, and some no better than others for bands. I'm well aware of the amount of fan club tickets and what prices for stub hub are for the show. Same goes for he bootlegs for the PJ shows I have seen there.
Every show has a chance to be amazing. Just as an example, Detroit in 2014 was just as loud, and rivaled almost any PJ show I have seen at the Garden or otherwise. You just never know.
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detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
All true. Those two msg shows crushed Newark, even Newark I’m had an insane setlist. I was at all 3.
detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
All true. Those two msg shows crushed Newark, even Newark I’m had an insane setlist. I was at all 3.
detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
All true. Those two msg shows crushed Newark, even Newark I’m had an insane setlist. I was at all 3.
Gonna listen to that bootleg now.
Jeez I really need to proof read. I still cannot type on my phone 🤦🏻♂️ Those 3 shows all have great boots.
detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
All true. Those two msg shows crushed Newark, even Newark I’m had an insane setlist. I was at all 3.
Gonna listen to that bootleg now.
Jeez I really need to proof read. I still cannot type on my phone 🤦🏻♂️ Those 3 shows all have great boots.
It was strange that the crowd was so mellow. I would never have expected it. I recall the weather was terrible, my brother and I were exhausted from driving down from the Boston show that was amazing the night before.
If I had to guess, if the play Newark again, the crowds would likely be great.
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
All true. Those two msg shows crushed Newark, even Newark I’m had an insane setlist. I was at all 3.
Gonna listen to that bootleg now.
Jeez I really need to proof read. I still cannot type on my phone 🤦🏻♂️ Those 3 shows all have great boots.
It was strange that the crowd was so mellow. I would never have expected it. I recall the weather was terrible, my brother and I were exhausted from driving down from the Boston show that was amazing the night before.
If I had to guess, if the play Newark again, the crowds would likely be great.
Yea dude wow. That Boston show was insane as well. What a great run of shows.
detroit was a great show.the crowds don't always make for a great show. new jersey 2011 was an amazing show and the crowd sucked. its whats on the stage that counts. the rest is up to you. but its great when both are in sync(not the band)
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
All true. Those two msg shows crushed Newark, even Newark I’m had an insane setlist. I was at all 3.
Gonna listen to that bootleg now.
Jeez I really need to proof read. I still cannot type on my phone 🤦🏻♂️ Those 3 shows all have great boots.
It was strange that the crowd was so mellow. I would never have expected it. I recall the weather was terrible, my brother and I were exhausted from driving down from the Boston show that was amazing the night before.
If I had to guess, if the play Newark again, the crowds would likely be great.
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
Was at the Newark show and confirm the crowd that night was almost as bad as the crowd in this forum has gotten.
1993 - Toronto 1996 - Toronto 1998 - Barrie 2000 - Toronto 2003 - Buffalo, Toronto 2005 - Hamilton, Toronto 2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II 2008 - EV solo Toronto I 2010 - Buffalo, Newark 2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton 2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II 2014 - Detroit 2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II 2018 - Boston I, Boston II
Newark 2010 (I'm assuming that's what you mean) was the worst PJ crowd I've ever seen (Eddie even remarked on it a couple of times from the stage), and even though as I've listened back to the bootleg I can appreciate how good the band was, in the arena itself it was my least favorite show. I get why people like the setlist and the boot, but the lesson I took away from that night was that I should have just paid the $300 on StubHub to get into the Garden. Opinions may vary, but for me personally I care much more about how much fun the show is in the moment than how it looks on the setlist page or sounds on the bootleg. Maybe great crowds don't always make for great shows, but it's pretty hard to have a great show with a bad crowd.
Was at the Newark show and confirm the crowd that night was almost as bad as the crowd in this forum has gotten.
If the crowd at Prudential was half as loud as this forum the show would have fuckin rocked.
Back to the original post I think NY screwed NY. They have an anti-scalping law which limits profit to 10%, but at the same time they have laws where people are entitled to physical tickets. People can buy/sell tickets without ever stepping foot into the state, make the 10% rule kind of pointless.
It's pretty night and day between the states whose laws permitted TM/PJ to restrict the tickets vs. the ones that didn't.
1 show in NY screwed NY fans. If they tour in the Fall they'll be back, but it's still rough now for the locals.
If they come back to NY in the fall, it'll still be a tough ticket and we'll be right back here with the same complaints.
Sure, but 2 nights each in NYC, Philly or other locations within a few hour drive will certainly help. People will get shut out of seeing every show, but way more will get at least 1 or 2. And if they play stadiums, everyone gets in.
If they come back to NY in the fall, it'll still be a tough ticket and we'll be right back here with the same complaints.
These are the facts.
1993 - Toronto 1996 - Toronto 1998 - Barrie 2000 - Toronto 2003 - Buffalo, Toronto 2005 - Hamilton, Toronto 2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II 2008 - EV solo Toronto I 2010 - Buffalo, Newark 2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton 2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II 2014 - Detroit 2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II 2018 - Boston I, Boston II
Does New Jersey have the same law as NY and CO? If they don’t maybe they. An play there in the fall and it will easier to get tickets
It wont be. Because the 20k seats for the show will be wanted by the same 1 million fans within driving distance and the band isn't going to skip one of the biggest, most cosmopolitan markets on the planet to quiet a hand full of fans that are crying because they didn't get their way in the sandbox.
1993 - Toronto 1996 - Toronto 1998 - Barrie 2000 - Toronto 2003 - Buffalo, Toronto 2005 - Hamilton, Toronto 2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II 2008 - EV solo Toronto I 2010 - Buffalo, Newark 2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton 2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II 2014 - Detroit 2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II 2018 - Boston I, Boston II
I’ve put in for every MSG show through 10C since 2013 and this is the first one I’ve hit on. An obscene number of people want to see the show, there are simply not enough tickets for demand. I also hit on back of the stage tix in the TM presale and passed on them... maybe I should have scalped them seeing secondary market prices, but I’d feel like a heel.
I mean, there's a reason that so many artists and entertainers revere MSG. I've seen 6 shows there. Two of them have been legendary and the other 4 pretty much fell in line with the 35+ others I've seen. Every show has a chance to be something special. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere. With MSG, the hype is huge. And with it being a one and done and no other shows nearby, the hype will be even more so than usual. I'm excited for it, but no more excited than I would be if I had tickets to any other city on this tour.
MSG is the best venue for me only because I can hop on the train after the show and go home to my bed. lol. but I've seen PJ at MSG several times and MSG shows are as much fun as any other city I've seen PJ at. No better no worse. maybe its just the hype about NYC. some people think its the greatest city in the world but I've been here all my life so i don't think that.
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I mean, there's a reason that so many artists and entertainers revere MSG. I've seen 6 shows there. Two of them have been legendary and the other 4 pretty much fell in line with the 35+ others I've seen. Every show has a chance to be something special. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere. With MSG, the hype is huge. And with it being a one and done and no other shows nearby, the hype will be even more so than usual. I'm excited for it, but no more excited than I would be if I had tickets to any other city on this tour.
MSG is the best venue for me only because I can hop on the train after the show and go home to my bed. lol. but I've seen PJ at MSG several times and MSG shows are as much fun as any other city I've seen PJ at. No better no worse. maybe its just the hype about NYC. some people think its the greatest city in the world but I've been here all my life so i don't think that.
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Go take a look at the StubHub map for this show right now. Nothing available in the floor reserved sections. Almost nothing available in the 100 level in front of the stage Nothing available across from the stage, and only a smattering of high rows in the 200 sides. That arena is going to be full of fan club members.
Every show has a chance to be amazing. Just as an example, Detroit in 2014 was just as loud, and rivaled almost any PJ show I have seen at the Garden or otherwise. You just never know.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
If I had to guess, if the play Newark again, the crowds would likely be great.
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II
It's pretty night and day between the states whose laws permitted TM/PJ to restrict the tickets vs. the ones that didn't.
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II
"I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine"