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tempo_n_groove said:ecdanc said:Start asking people to respect trans people’s pronoun choices and suddenly everyone’s a prescriptivist.
Calling a person "they" fits in to that to me and doesn't feel right. I don't have a problem calling someone They if that is what they want.
I just don't understand the other non gender, non binary, genderqueer definitions. Transgender is the easy one.0 -
ecdanc said:tempo_n_groove said:ecdanc said:Start asking people to respect trans people’s pronoun choices and suddenly everyone’s a prescriptivist.
Calling a person "they" fits in to that to me and doesn't feel right. I don't have a problem calling someone They if that is what they want.
I just don't understand the other non gender, non binary, genderqueer definitions. Transgender is the easy one.0 -
Gern Blansten said:I'm changing my pronoun to "asshole"0
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tempo_n_groove said:Gern Blansten said:I'm changing my pronoun to "asshole"'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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benjs said:tempo_n_groove said:Gern Blansten said:I'm changing my pronoun to "asshole"0
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tempo_n_groove said:ecdanc said:Start asking people to respect trans people’s pronoun choices and suddenly everyone’s a prescriptivist.
Calling a person "they" fits in to that to me and doesn't feel right. I don't have a problem calling someone They if that is what they want.
I just don't understand the other non gender, non binary, genderqueer definitions. Transgender is the easy one.
I would call anyone anything they want but I might not believe the best choice for an individual is "they". "They" is plural. That choice makes no sense.
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brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:ecdanc said:Start asking people to respect trans people’s pronoun choices and suddenly everyone’s a prescriptivist.
Calling a person "they" fits in to that to me and doesn't feel right. I don't have a problem calling someone They if that is what they want.
I just don't understand the other non gender, non binary, genderqueer definitions. Transgender is the easy one.
I would call anyone anything they want but I might not believe the best choice for an individual is "they". "They" is plural. That choice makes no sense.The singular they emerged by the 14th century,[3] about a century after plural they. It has been commonly employed in everyday English ever since then, and has gained currency in official contexts. Singular they has been criticised since the mid-18th century by prescriptive commentators who consider it an error.[4][5][6] Its continued use in modern standard English has become more common and formally accepted with the change toward gender-neutral language,[5][7] though many style guides continue to describe it as colloquial and less appropriate in formal writing.[8][9]
In the early 21st century, use of singular they with known individuals emerged for people who do not identify as male or female, as in the following example:[10]
- "This is my friend, Jay. I met them at work. They are a talented artist."
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ecdanc said:jeffbr said:ecdanc said:Start asking people to respect trans people’s pronoun choices and suddenly everyone’s a prescriptivist."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080
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Im offended by hillbilly. How would anyone know that.
called a Tom boy as a kid.
ive had people ask me if I am a lesibian, I'm not.
no one really knows much about me unless I tell them.Amy The Great #74594
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amethgr8 said:Im offended by hillbilly. How would anyone know that.
called a Tom boy as a kid.
ive had people ask me if I am a lesibian, I'm not.
no one really knows much about me unless I tell them.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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As parents, you have to make decisions for your children. Formula or breast milk, meat or no meat, TV or music, etc it goes on for years before children make their own conscious choices. as long as you give children love, support and acceptance, maybe a bit of how to overcome potential obstacles they will most likey be okay with what they choose.
i think by default a parent that has overcome the social boxes they were brought up in, will naturally elimate those same boxes for their own children.
i never appreciated gender roles much, but they are a big part of any society.
i think it's ironic for a person that does not want to be gender labeled, dress in an attire that is clearly gender based, that is confusing to me.Post edited by amethgr8 onAmy The Great #74594
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Grand Rapids MI 19May06
Noblesville IN 05/07/10 Cleveland OH 05/09/10
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Anyone? Am I judged? Buzzkill?Amy The Great #74594
New Orleans LA 7/4/95 reschedule 9/17/95
Chicago IL 1998, 10/9/00, 06/18/03, 05/16/06, 05/17/06
08/23/09, 08/24/09, Lolla 08/05/07
Champaign IL 4/23/03
Grand Rapids MI VFC 10/03/04
Grand Rapids MI 19May06
Noblesville IN 05/07/10 Cleveland OH 05/09/10
PJ 20 2011
Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Seattle WA 2013
St. Louis MO, Milwaukee WI 2014
Tampa FL, Chicago IL, Lexington KY 2016
Missoula MT 20180 -
K just checking, I know this is a safe place.Amy The Great #74594
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Chicago IL 1998, 10/9/00, 06/18/03, 05/16/06, 05/17/06
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Champaign IL 4/23/03
Grand Rapids MI VFC 10/03/04
Grand Rapids MI 19May06
Noblesville IN 05/07/10 Cleveland OH 05/09/10
PJ 20 2011
Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Seattle WA 2013
St. Louis MO, Milwaukee WI 2014
Tampa FL, Chicago IL, Lexington KY 2016
Missoula MT 20180 -
tempo_n_groove said:benjs said:tempo_n_groove said:Gern Blansten said:I'm changing my pronoun to "asshole"
miss his voice around here."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
amethgr8 said:As parents, you have to make decisions for your children. Formula or breast milk, meat or no meat, TV or music, etc it goes on for years before children make their own conscious choices. as long as you give children love, support and acceptance, maybe a bit of how to overcome potential obstacles they will most likey be okay with what they choose.
i think by default a parent that has overcome the social boxes they were brought up in, will naturally elimate those same boxes for their own children.
i never appreciated gender roles much, but they are a big part of any society.
i think it's ironic for a person that does not want to be gender labeled, dress in an attire that is clearly gender based, that is confusing to me.do you think such parental choices should include medical intervention i.e. hormone replacement in young children?to reference kinda what started all this here from the dem thread and joe rogans supposed endorsement bernie put up on his site._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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amethgr8 said:Im offended by hillbilly. How would anyone know that.
called a Tom boy as a kid.
ive had people ask me if I am a lesibian, I'm not.
no one really knows much about me unless I tell them.Often the labels put on us are hurtful- especially name calling on a mostly faceless forum. Best to ignore that crap.I've had a number of people mistake me for being gay. When I went into teaching I spent several months working with a gay teacher who for a long time assumed I was gay as well. My wife thought I was gay when I met her in 2001 (she figured out the reality pretty quickly.) None of that ever bothered me. All the gay people I've had as friends are people I'm very fond of, so calling me gay is not only not offensive, usually I think of it as a compliment. But the kid that attacked me outside a Goodwill Store a few years ago called me "a fag", now that really pissed me off.Names, labels. There often just a bad idea."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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