Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
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mickeyrat
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Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.
we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.
so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.
we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.
so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
A joke that missed. I'm used to that. Apologies. I really did mean that as lighthearted.
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.
we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.
so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
A joke that missed. I'm used to that. Apologies. I really did mean that as lighthearted.
please tell me I'm reading this incorrectly.
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mickeyrat
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An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word.
history dictates or how you used it? I read it as derisive. it surely wasnt intended to be benign. at least in print with no visual , tonal clues to suggest otherwise
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
if you are truly offended by that, then fine, my apologies and I will edit my post.
It hit a nerve because a very old professor brought up this SNL skit at a social event while asking about my child. It took everything in my power not to floor the old codger right there.
Sounds like your toxic masculinity was in overdrive there.
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.
we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.
so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
A joke that missed. I'm used to that. Apologies. I really did mean that as lighthearted.
please tell me I'm reading this incorrectly.
Not sure how you're reading it, but I'm pretty accustomed to making jokes people don't find funny. Mostly puns.
if you are truly offended by that, then fine, my apologies and I will edit my post.
It hit a nerve because a very old professor brought up this SNL skit at a social event while asking about my child. It took everything in my power not to floor the old codger right there.
Sounds like your toxic masculinity was in overdrive there.
An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word.
history dictates or how you used it? I read it as derisive. it surely wasnt intended to be benign. at least in print with no visual , tonal clues to suggest otherwise
I read Hugh's question as "is the term 'codger' itself offensive *as a term*." Obviously it can be used as an insult, which I was doing in this case. The history of the word helps determine whether it's more broadly offensive. For example, if I say to my friend "you're stupid," I'm being insulting, but (in the context of this conversation not "offensive"). If I say "you're retarded" (apologies for actually writing that out--I worry some might not know what I mean if I say "r-word") I'm being both insulting and offensive.
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Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
we've told you.
-don't condescend -allow others' viewpoints -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
we've told you.
-don't condescend -allow others' viewpoints -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
And this approach has proven effective for getting people to admit they are wrong?
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,157
An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word.
history dictates or how you used it? I read it as derisive. it surely wasnt intended to be benign. at least in print with no visual , tonal clues to suggest otherwise
I read Hugh's question as "is the term 'codger' itself offensive *as a term*." Obviously it can be used as an insult, which I was doing in this case. The history of the word helps determine whether it's more broadly offensive. For example, if I say to my friend "you're stupid," I'm being insulting, but (in the context of this conversation not "offensive"). If I say "you're retarded" (apologies for actually writing that out--I worry some might not know what I mean if I say "r-word") I'm being both insulting and offensive.
I have to ask, and this is earnest and sincere, are you on the spectrum to some degree?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
we've told you.
-don't condescend -allow others' viewpoints -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
And this approach has proven effective for getting people to admit they are wrong?
Again, I thought you "like to learn" not get people to admit they were wrong. Sheesh...if that's all you are here for....
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,157
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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hedonist
standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
we've told you.
-don't condescend -allow others' viewpoints -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
And this approach has proven effective for getting people to admit they are wrong?
Again, I thought you "like to learn" not get people to admit they were wrong. Sheesh...if that's all you are here for....
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
we've told you.
-don't condescend -allow others' viewpoints -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
And this approach has proven effective for getting people to admit they are wrong?
Again, I thought you "like to learn" not get people to admit they were wrong. Sheesh...if that's all you are here for....
I didn’t say I wanted to learn how not to piss people off. I asked for instances where someone has actually changed their position.
An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word.
history dictates or how you used it? I read it as derisive. it surely wasnt intended to be benign. at least in print with no visual , tonal clues to suggest otherwise
I read Hugh's question as "is the term 'codger' itself offensive *as a term*." Obviously it can be used as an insult, which I was doing in this case. The history of the word helps determine whether it's more broadly offensive. For example, if I say to my friend "you're stupid," I'm being insulting, but (in the context of this conversation not "offensive"). If I say "you're retarded" (apologies for actually writing that out--I worry some might not know what I mean if I say "r-word") I'm being both insulting and offensive.
I have to ask, and this is earnest and sincere, are you on the spectrum to some degree?
Not that I know of. This is just how a lot of academics are. 😳
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,157
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
we've told you.
-don't condescend -allow others' viewpoints -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
And this approach has proven effective for getting people to admit they are wrong?
Again, I thought you "like to learn" not get people to admit they were wrong. Sheesh...if that's all you are here for....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you. It's pretty simple. Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.
Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on
I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts.
I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux.
it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection.
An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
we've told you.
-don't condescend -allow others' viewpoints -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
If I may, I'd like to ask about your third point here. Are you suggesting that experts aren't welcome here? Or merely that you have to keep your expertise under your hat? By way of explanation, I offer for your enjoyment a hypothetical conversation:
A post about gardening:
X: My peonies won't grow. Here's what I'm trying, but they just won't grow. Y: Well, they're not growing because _____. X: I don't think that's why. Y: I'm pretty sure that's why. X: Yeah, how do you know?!? Y: Well, I'm a botanist who specializes in peonies. X: Stop being condescending.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'll confess I don't know the precise functional definition of trolling, but I do find these conversations enjoyable. The back and forth about various interesting topics is quite fun. I've seen some excellent questions and some worthy points here. I've tried to modulate my tone to keep things more civil, but the heart of the discussion doesn't seem like a major problem.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
www.headstonesband.com
www.headstonesband.com
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
It's really brought out the best in some folks!
-don't condescend
-allow others' viewpoints
-stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue
-just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason.
www.headstonesband.com
www.headstonesband.com
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I am not.
Let's not do this yet again.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
A post about gardening:
X: My peonies won't grow. Here's what I'm trying, but they just won't grow.
Y: Well, they're not growing because _____.
X: I don't think that's why.
Y: I'm pretty sure that's why.
X: Yeah, how do you know?!?
Y: Well, I'm a botanist who specializes in peonies.
X: Stop being condescending.
Fin.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14