Someone explain to me: When did Pearl Jam become this popular?!

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  • erocshifty
    erocshifty Posts: 1,170
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    I do not remember the how the whole tour sold for 2013 but I am pretty sure Worcester night 2 did not sell out. I had extra tickets for that show and had to give them away. No way that happens in 2020. 
    Neither philly show was sold out in 2013.  Lots of tickets in 2014 and 2016 too.  2018 was different, you are talking 7 shows in four cities in some of their biggest markets.
    Like I said, look at a place like Oklahoma City and explain that to me lol.  The worst seller this tour is quebec city!

    I recall trying to get tix to Philly then and nothing was available?

    whats up with OKC? IIRC there were still backstage available and they still did not open the full arena yet?
    I got an upper level facing the stage around 11:30 last night. It's not in a terrible spot for the 300's.
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  • RF283499
    RF283499 Posts: 142
    smile6680 said:
    I think it's mostly three things
    1. Less touring
    2. People are beginning to wonder how many more times will they be able to see them live
    3. a lot of the core fan base has become more financially stable as they have aged. A lot more people seem to be able to fly cross country/other countries to see them. Especially places like New York, Chicago and Boston where people make vacation around seeing the band.
    This is the right answer. But you should add that there is a booming economy and the live music business in general is way up. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,110
    JimmyV said:
    If it's only seats behind the stage, that is a sellout in my opinion.
    Not in any universe where MSG is an option
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    If it's only seats behind the stage, that is a sellout in my opinion.
    Not in any universe where MSG is an option

    Disagree. No band needs to open up rear stage seating. If you don't, and you sell all tickets, no one questions that it is a sellout. But if you sell all those same tickets and not some shitty rear stage seats it's not? I don't buy that.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,110
    YAKIMATSU said:
    1995 soldier field between 60,000 and 70,000 fans testified to the popularity 

    Effectively 50,000 MSG tickets were already sold when I got on line, and I was there more than 10 minutes early like TM says to do.

    Not sure I've ever heard that about a concert before 

    Tickets in NY have always been a challenge 
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    A sellout is a sellout. If a band doesn’t have enough demand to sell the crummiest seats, then no sellout imo.
  • YAKIMATSU
    YAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 1,138
    Lerxst1992 said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    1995 soldier field between 60,000 and 70,000 fans testified to the popularity 

    Effectively 50,000 MSG tickets were already sold when I got on line, and I was there more than 10 minutes early like TM says to do.

    Not sure I've ever heard that about a concert before 

    Tickets in NY have always been a challenge 
    Sorry. I was responding to the OP. I was not ranking popularity. I was just trying to point out that they were extremely popular in 95.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,145
    YAKIMATSU said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    1995 soldier field between 60,000 and 70,000 fans testified to the popularity 

    Effectively 50,000 MSG tickets were already sold when I got on line, and I was there more than 10 minutes early like TM says to do.

    Not sure I've ever heard that about a concert before 

    Tickets in NY have always been a challenge 
    Sorry. I was responding to the OP. I was not ranking popularity. I was just trying to point out that they were extremely popular in 95.
    Thanks captain. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,022
    DewieCox said:
    on2legs said:
    DewieCox said:
    Think it has to do with a low supply and sporadic touring more than anything. 
    It is amazing that not putting out an album for 7 years and touring sporadically actually made them more popular tho.  
    I don’t really think their popularity has grown.
    That’s cool with me.  We can disagree. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,110
    YAKIMATSU said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    1995 soldier field between 60,000 and 70,000 fans testified to the popularity 

    Effectively 50,000 MSG tickets were already sold when I got on line, and I was there more than 10 minutes early like TM says to do.

    Not sure I've ever heard that about a concert before 

    Tickets in NY have always been a challenge 
    Sorry. I was responding to the OP. I was not ranking popularity. I was just trying to point out that they were extremely popular in 95.

    I thought I was agreeing with you. They were always this popular. Alot if us have more resources to get tickets now also.

     Bad wording on my part 
  • exploderball
    exploderball Posts: 172
    Don't forget about the RRHOF induction a couple years ago. That surely added fuel to the fire for some people...
  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,413
    mcgruff10 said:
    I mean the entire US/Canadian tour is pretty much sold out except for behind the stage.  What gives?  When did PJ become this popular again?  Was PJ the best kept secret for years?  I'm at a loss....
    I’ve been pondering this myself... I’ve always been a fan but didn’t really sink my teeth in until right before Riot Act came out, which to me was the lowest point of their mainstream/casual popularity.  I feel like on the self titled tour the the fan base grew a lot and continued to grow through PJ20... but the RNR HOF blew the door open for the casuals
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,145
    SomethingCreative said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I mean the entire US/Canadian tour is pretty much sold out except for behind the stage.  What gives?  When did PJ become this popular again?  Was PJ the best kept secret for years?  I'm at a loss....
    I’ve been pondering this myself... I’ve always been a fan but didn’t really sink my teeth in until right before Riot Act came out, which to me was the lowest point of their mainstream/casual popularity.  I feel like on the self titled tour the the fan base grew a lot and continued to grow through PJ20... but the RNR HOF blew the door open for the casuals
    I do agree with you that the riot act era was their low point in terms of popularity.  The decline started with binaural then got even lower with riot act.  Self titled was a nice rebound.  
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  • densan
    densan Posts: 563
    None of it makes sense. Never has been logical. I think some of the fans become fans when it is convenient for most of them. PJ is their flavor of the month type of thing. 
    It reminds me of back in the day. I openly liked Kiss, and people would call me names. Years later I discovered they were all putting the makeup on behind closed door.  
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  • Smarter_Than_U
    Smarter_Than_U Posts: 515
    As a live act, they’ve been popular pretty much since 1992 Lollapalooza. My friends and I drove 7 hours from Long Island to Rochester to see them in ‘94 because getting tickets in NYC was impossible. Maybe it has ebbed and flowed over the years (what doesn’t), but demand for Pearl Jam live is not a new thing.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,340
    GUYS HOLD ON! This changes everything!!!


  • ceska
    ceska New York Posts: 1,138
    Smarter_Than_U said:
    As a live act, they’ve been popular pretty much since 1992 Lollapalooza. My friends and I drove 7 hours from Long Island to Rochester to see them in ‘94 because getting tickets in NYC was impossible. Maybe it has ebbed and flowed over the years (what doesn’t), but demand for Pearl Jam live is not a new thing.

    yes, but once they started regularly playing major league stadiums/arenas and large amphitheaters with big lawns in 1998, it wasn't terribly hard to get tickets, either through 10C or TM. The band played large venues and played dozens of shows per tour in the 2000s. 2003 was what, 72 dates? More people have gotten shut out more regularly in the past decade especially the past few US tours.
  • YAKIMATSU
    YAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 1,138
    More bang for your buck compared with an average show now. Who, besides Bruce, plays 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours? Besides festivals,  when do they play less than 30 songs?  Serious question?  Do other bands do that? 
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  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061
    One thing that might explain some of the added ticket demand. Much of the fanbase is in that sweet spot in life (40's, etc.) where you tend to have the most expendable income.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,687
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    If it's only seats behind the stage, that is a sellout in my opinion.
    Not in any universe where MSG is an option
    It's how many tickets you put up. Smashing Pumpkins had behind the stage and the back blocked off. Sure they considered it a sell out
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