Someone explain to me: When did Pearl Jam become this popular?!

mcgruff10

PJNB said:

I do not remember the how the whole tour sold for 2013 but I am pretty sure Worcester night 2 did not sell out. I had extra tickets for that show and had to give them away. No way that happens in 2020. 

Neither philly show was sold out in 2013.  Lots of tickets in 2014 and 2016 too.  2018 was different, you are talking 7 shows in four cities in some of their biggest markets.
Like I said, look at a place like Oklahoma City and explain that to me lol.  The worst seller this tour is quebec city!

igotid88

1992

YAKIMATSU

1995 soldier field between 60,000 and 70,000 fans testified to the popularity 

PJNB

mcgruff10 said:

PJNB said:

I do not remember the how the whole tour sold for 2013 but I am pretty sure Worcester night 2 did not sell out. I had extra tickets for that show and had to give them away. No way that happens in 2020. 

Neither philly show was sold out in 2013.  Lots of tickets in 2014 and 2016 too.  2018 was different, you are talking 7 shows in four cities in some of their biggest markets.
Like I said, look at a place like Oklahoma City and explain that to me lol.  The worst seller this tour is quebec city!

Pretty damn good when your worst seller only has behind the stage seats remaining that are not singles. These guys have a lot of momentum going for them right now. New album getting great previews, tour selling like fire, Europe sales looking great. Look how down some of us were a year ago not knowing what the future held. People thought they were retiring. They also thought stadium shows is all we were getting here on out. We have a full arena tour and an album that sounds like its going to have something for everyone. What a great time to be a fan of this band, 

1ThoughtKnown

Finn McKenty has a theory on this and it applies to all popular music really. You can watch the video here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=srhaUoYtiIs

PJ hit the ground running with Ten and was popular. I remember going to bush parties as a teenager and hearing the jockos blasting Jeremy.... Then the bands intentional pull back combined with considerable backlash on the musical direction. It wasn’t “cool” to be a PJ fan anymore. 

Now this was before the “neck beards on the Internet” were telling us how uncool PJ was but McKinty’s points are valid.  Basically, the band  hung around long enough they became cool again. All the critics soften and original fans and their kids want to see a show for nostalgia, curiosity, etc. 

He uses NOFX as a good example here. He’s a marketing expert and A hardcore fan. I find his channel very interesting as he tries to explain to folks why “rock n roll is dead” and that it might be the fans fault lol. 

smile6680

I think it's mostly three things
1. Less touring
2. People are beginning to wonder how many more times will they be able to see them live
3. a lot of the core fan base has become more financially stable as they have aged. A lot more people seem to be able to fly cross country/other countries to see them. Especially places like New York, Chicago and Boston where people make vacation around seeing the band.

MyBitterHands76

I think they’ve always been popular they just have such a huge devoted following/fan base, and they haven’t done really a proper US tour in awhile. Plus I think an issue why so many got shut out of the Baltimore or MSG show is because they are really the only North East shows on this leg. I posted this on another thread but I think if they had done what they normally do (2 philly shows, 2 Boston shows, and 2 NYC area shows) tickets would have been much easier to get on the public sale and I don’t think as many people would have been shut out in the 10c presale either. 

JBob87

smile6680 said:

I think it's mostly three things
1. Less touring
2. People are beginning to wonder how many more times will they be able to see them live
3. a lot of the core fan base has become more financially stable as they have aged. A lot more people seem to be able to fly cross country/other countries to see them. Especially places like New York, Chicago and Boston where people make vacation around seeing the band.

It’s all this, plus what other mainstream rock bands are out there that are still “real” I.e. putting out new music, playing arenas, and not just trotting out the same greatest hits setlist they have been for the last decade+. Lot less options for people to see a real show. 

erocshifty

mcgruff10 said:

PJNB said:

I do not remember the how the whole tour sold for 2013 but I am pretty sure Worcester night 2 did not sell out. I had extra tickets for that show and had to give them away. No way that happens in 2020. 

Neither philly show was sold out in 2013.  Lots of tickets in 2014 and 2016 too.  2018 was different, you are talking 7 shows in four cities in some of their biggest markets.
Like I said, look at a place like Oklahoma City and explain that to me lol.  The worst seller this tour is quebec city!

I found out there were tickets available and decided that I'm going to make the trip to see PJ in OKC. I still hope there's a Fall date close by. Ideally, I'd wanted to wait to see if NC would end up getting rescheduled or Charlottesville gets a date, but demand for those will most likely be insanity (aka Baltimore on this leg). Plus, they hit this region hard between 2013-2016 and I don't want to take any chances on it. We'll see how that eventually shakes out, but either way - OKC here I come! The GIGATON hype is reaching astronomical proportions already, lol. 

I imagine even a YouTube channel like Better Than Nothing has helped grow the fanbase over the past few years. There hasn't been any newer big Rock bands to really come up and make the same kind of impact bands did between the '60's-90's in recent years. What's going to be left after some of these bands call it a day? Tribute Acts? Holograms? 

NEweather

1ThoughtKnown said:

Finn McKenty has a theory on this and it applies to all popular music really. You can watch the video here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=srhaUoYtiIs

PJ hit the ground running with Ten and was popular. I remember going to bush parties as a teenager and hearing the jockos blasting Jeremy.... Then the bands intentional pull back combined with considerable backlash on the musical direction. It wasn’t “cool” to be a PJ fan anymore. 

Now this was before the “neck beards on the Internet” were telling us how uncool PJ was but McKinty’s points are valid.  Basically, the band  hung around long enough they became cool again. All the critics soften and original fans and their kids want to see a show for nostalgia, curiosity, etc. 

He uses NOFX as a good example here. He’s a marketing expert and A hardcore fan. I find his channel very interesting as he tries to explain to folks why “rock n roll is dead” and that it might be the fans fault lol. 

( I just watched / that is very interesting- I liked it!  Thanks! )

NEweather

( ...this means even Attila will come out smellin' like a rose after going through the cycle? ...hmm? lol... maybe ... )

D-Rod

mcgruff10 said:

PJNB said:

I do not remember the how the whole tour sold for 2013 but I am pretty sure Worcester night 2 did not sell out. I had extra tickets for that show and had to give them away. No way that happens in 2020. 

Neither philly show was sold out in 2013.  Lots of tickets in 2014 and 2016 too.  2018 was different, you are talking 7 shows in four cities in some of their biggest markets.
Like I said, look at a place like Oklahoma City and explain that to me lol.  The worst seller this tour is quebec city!

Detroit 2014 wasn’t a sellout.  Granted only seats available were behind the stage. 

jonbond1779

Don't underestimate the volume of touts...

1ThoughtKnown

NEweather said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Finn McKenty has a theory on this and it applies to all popular music really. You can watch the video here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=srhaUoYtiIs

PJ hit the ground running with Ten and was popular. I remember going to bush parties as a teenager and hearing the jockos blasting Jeremy.... Then the bands intentional pull back combined with considerable backlash on the musical direction. It wasn’t “cool” to be a PJ fan anymore. 

Now this was before the “neck beards on the Internet” were telling us how uncool PJ was but McKinty’s points are valid.  Basically, the band  hung around long enough they became cool again. All the critics soften and original fans and their kids want to see a show for nostalgia, curiosity, etc. 

He uses NOFX as a good example here. He’s a marketing expert and A hardcore fan. I find his channel very interesting as he tries to explain to folks why “rock n roll is dead” and that it might be the fans fault lol. 

( I just watched / that is very interesting- I liked it!  Thanks! )

You are very welcome! On some of his videos he talks about bands I’ve never heard of,
makes me feel real old lol

Lerxst1992

mcgruff10 said:

PJNB said:

I do not remember the how the whole tour sold for 2013 but I am pretty sure Worcester night 2 did not sell out. I had extra tickets for that show and had to give them away. No way that happens in 2020. 

Neither philly show was sold out in 2013.  Lots of tickets in 2014 and 2016 too.  2018 was different, you are talking 7 shows in four cities in some of their biggest markets.
Like I said, look at a place like Oklahoma City and explain that to me lol.  The worst seller this tour is quebec city!

I recall trying to get tix to Philly then and nothing was available?

whats up with OKC? IIRC there were still backstage available and they still did not open the full arena yet?

NEweather

1ThoughtKnown said:

NEweather said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Finn McKenty has a theory on this and it applies to all popular music really. You can watch the video here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=srhaUoYtiIs

PJ hit the ground running with Ten and was popular. I remember going to bush parties as a teenager and hearing the jockos blasting Jeremy.... Then the bands intentional pull back combined with considerable backlash on the musical direction. It wasn’t “cool” to be a PJ fan anymore. 

Now this was before the “neck beards on the Internet” were telling us how uncool PJ was but McKinty’s points are valid.  Basically, the band  hung around long enough they became cool again. All the critics soften and original fans and their kids want to see a show for nostalgia, curiosity, etc. 

He uses NOFX as a good example here. He’s a marketing expert and A hardcore fan. I find his channel very interesting as he tries to explain to folks why “rock n roll is dead” and that it might be the fans fault lol. 

( I just watched / that is very interesting- I liked it!  Thanks! )

You are very welcome! On some of his videos he talks about bands I’ve never heard of,
makes me feel real old lol

( i read that... I'm a "chaperone", that's how i end up seeing stuff that was already a certain flavor of the month, in a metal-core genre-so three years ago-lol...so yeah maybe I "see/hear/attend live" with,- but pearl jam i "keep to myself" and +1 w/ those bent on seeing them live when it matches like that...otherwise only  basically talk here about 'em- only 1 person i know asked me if i "scored" tickets to pearl jam during the past week, cuz they "know" - others just not that into it- more tixs then for the faithful! )

JimmyV

If it's only seats behind the stage, that is a sellout in my opinion.

PJNB

JimmyV said:

If it's only seats behind the stage, that is a sellout in my opinion.

I agree. Plenty of people look at those and think fuck that I will pay for something better. Once they find out there is no traditional secondary market until Feb 18th they may reconsider. 

kaikai

I am open to the consideration that I am entirely wrong on this but...

I mentioned this on another thread but I really think YouTube creators have a small part in PJs growing popularity as well. It may not make but a small difference, but it’s still a difference... The “react” video craze has these creators doing loads of PJ videos. They’re becoming fans and so are some of their subscribers. The views on these videos are telling... (granted it’s also a lot of fans of PJ). And, yes, I watched some of them. I was really curious. Lol In fact, I rejoined 10C after watching one. Lol

mcgruff10

JimmyV said:

If it's only seats behind the stage, that is a sellout in my opinion.

Yeah 270 degrees is definitely a sell
out imho.  Seeing a band side stage or behind the stage is some serious dedication.