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where in the fuck did anyone suggest this?gvn2fly1421 said:
Again, the thought seems to be here, you get Covid, you immediately go to the hospital which is not the case at all. Or that you get deathly sick, which for the majority of people is not true.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. it's the communal responsibility message. it's the same message our health officials have been giving us.gvn2fly1421 said:
Our own leaders sow doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines. Parading around in masks after being fully vaccinated is the ultimate anti-vax message, no?mrussel1 said:
And what do you know.. ."virus gonna virus" in the next post.. that's herd immunity right there. Nothing we can do, just let it ride. That's the language spoken to support that notion.tempo_n_groove said:PJNB said:
Who has answered everything?tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
OK, nevermind then... I don't see it that way.mrussel1 said:
No he hasn't, not in the least. He keeps posting bullshit graphs and when challenged, he moves onto something else. Has been doing it for weeks. He also advocated for herd immunity and when confronted with the possible death count, wouldn't reply to any posts and whether those numbers were acceptable. So I take issue with your statement completely.tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
Spreading misinformation, lies, sewing doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines needs to be countered, no matter how harsh it gets.
YOU CAN STILL POTENTIALLY SPREAD COVID IF VACCINATED. YOU JUST WON'T GET AS SICK.
Last time I will touch on this, for me personally and my family, we looked at it like this. Would we rather take our chance with the vaccine (side effects, long term consequences) or we would we rather take our chance with the virus itself? For us, the virus won. But FlyGuy, think about the grandparents... Well, we did and the grandparents are not getting vaccinated. As I said two or three posts ago, we ALL know the risks and the majority of us have ALL had a chance to get vaccinated so at one point does the show end and life return to normal?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
No, low possibility = zero. 100% = 94-96%. You living your life yet?gvn2fly1421 said:
Our own leaders sow doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines. Parading around in masks after being fully vaccinated is the ultimate anti-vax message, no?mrussel1 said:
And what do you know.. ."virus gonna virus" in the next post.. that's herd immunity right there. Nothing we can do, just let it ride. That's the language spoken to support that notion.tempo_n_groove said:PJNB said:
Who has answered everything?tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
OK, nevermind then... I don't see it that way.mrussel1 said:
No he hasn't, not in the least. He keeps posting bullshit graphs and when challenged, he moves onto something else. Has been doing it for weeks. He also advocated for herd immunity and when confronted with the possible death count, wouldn't reply to any posts and whether those numbers were acceptable. So I take issue with your statement completely.tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
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Literally one post above this, where the guy (or gal) says that show will end "when all the unvaccinated people die."HughFreakingDillon said:
where in the fuck did anyone suggest this?gvn2fly1421 said:
Again, the thought seems to be here, you get Covid, you immediately go to the hospital which is not the case at all. Or that you get deathly sick, which for the majority of people is not true.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. it's the communal responsibility message. it's the same message our health officials have been giving us.gvn2fly1421 said:
Our own leaders sow doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines. Parading around in masks after being fully vaccinated is the ultimate anti-vax message, no?mrussel1 said:
And what do you know.. ."virus gonna virus" in the next post.. that's herd immunity right there. Nothing we can do, just let it ride. That's the language spoken to support that notion.tempo_n_groove said:PJNB said:
Who has answered everything?tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
OK, nevermind then... I don't see it that way.mrussel1 said:
No he hasn't, not in the least. He keeps posting bullshit graphs and when challenged, he moves onto something else. Has been doing it for weeks. He also advocated for herd immunity and when confronted with the possible death count, wouldn't reply to any posts and whether those numbers were acceptable. So I take issue with your statement completely.tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
Spreading misinformation, lies, sewing doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines needs to be countered, no matter how harsh it gets.
YOU CAN STILL POTENTIALLY SPREAD COVID IF VACCINATED. YOU JUST WON'T GET AS SICK.
Last time I will touch on this, for me personally and my family, we looked at it like this. Would we rather take our chance with the vaccine (side effects, long term consequences) or we would we rather take our chance with the virus itself? For us, the virus won. But FlyGuy, think about the grandparents... Well, we did and the grandparents are not getting vaccinated. As I said two or three posts ago, we ALL know the risks and the majority of us have ALL had a chance to get vaccinated so at one point does the show end and life return to normal?0 -
then respond to their post.gvn2fly1421 said:
Literally one post above this, where the guy (or gal) says that show will end "when all the unvaccinated people die."HughFreakingDillon said:
where in the fuck did anyone suggest this?gvn2fly1421 said:
Again, the thought seems to be here, you get Covid, you immediately go to the hospital which is not the case at all. Or that you get deathly sick, which for the majority of people is not true.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. it's the communal responsibility message. it's the same message our health officials have been giving us.gvn2fly1421 said:
Our own leaders sow doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines. Parading around in masks after being fully vaccinated is the ultimate anti-vax message, no?mrussel1 said:
And what do you know.. ."virus gonna virus" in the next post.. that's herd immunity right there. Nothing we can do, just let it ride. That's the language spoken to support that notion.tempo_n_groove said:PJNB said:
Who has answered everything?tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
OK, nevermind then... I don't see it that way.mrussel1 said:
No he hasn't, not in the least. He keeps posting bullshit graphs and when challenged, he moves onto something else. Has been doing it for weeks. He also advocated for herd immunity and when confronted with the possible death count, wouldn't reply to any posts and whether those numbers were acceptable. So I take issue with your statement completely.tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
Spreading misinformation, lies, sewing doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines needs to be countered, no matter how harsh it gets.
YOU CAN STILL POTENTIALLY SPREAD COVID IF VACCINATED. YOU JUST WON'T GET AS SICK.
Last time I will touch on this, for me personally and my family, we looked at it like this. Would we rather take our chance with the vaccine (side effects, long term consequences) or we would we rather take our chance with the virus itself? For us, the virus won. But FlyGuy, think about the grandparents... Well, we did and the grandparents are not getting vaccinated. As I said two or three posts ago, we ALL know the risks and the majority of us have ALL had a chance to get vaccinated so at one point does the show end and life return to normal?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
You should call the cops on those kids wearing masks. That's child abuse. Get up in the parents' faces and demand they be removed, for the sake of the churldren. You want to stop the madness and return to normal? Call the cops. Have those parents reported as child abusers. Tell them Fucker Carlson sent you.gvn2fly1421 said:
You got me, I have no answer for my crimes.mrussel1 said:
I asked you consistently why there are two data sets on that chart yet only one Y axis? Are you telling me flu cases and vaccine distributions are on the same scale? That's ridiculous. 50% of Americans get the flu vaccine every year. What the "ethical skeptic" (irony) did was conflate data to skew the conclusions. Second, Ben asked you why the skeptic would post worldwide flu cases against US vax numbers? Again, that makes zero analytical sense and seeks to lead people to inaccurate conclusions.gvn2fly1421 said:
What would you liked answered mrussell?mrussel1 said:
No he hasn't, not in the least. He keeps posting bullshit graphs and when challenged, he moves onto something else. Has been doing it for weeks. He also advocated for herd immunity and when confronted with the possible death count, wouldn't reply to any posts and whether those numbers were acceptable. So I take issue with your statement completely.tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
The Skeptic's flu charts. It appears to my little brain that the skeptic is insinuating that we really didn't have a bad flu problem until...... mass flu vaccines were given. The Skeptic makes you think, nothing more. Open your mind, it can be freeing. He is not saying that anything is fact, more just theorizing on different things. What about his graphs that Covid-19 actually existed in 2018? Eye opening. Ultimately who knows if it was right.
I have answered to the death thing multiple times. No, I do not believe the covid death count is accurate. Sorry, I have listed several health officials who state how deaths are counted (60 days within a positive test), I have posted the articles with the motorcycle crash as well as gunshot victims, I have posted screenshots from multiple cities health departments showing that most of the people dying were elderly, with multiple comorbidities such as renal failure, heart attack, etc.
What more would you like me to answer so you and a few others can tell me how (free)dumb I am?
Since I have the "Misinformation/Disinformation" police here, can you correctly identify the misinformation in my video of the CDC Director saying kids should wear a mask while playing sports while having the WHO say "Children should not wear a mask when playing sports or doing physical activities, such as running, jumping or playing on the playground, so that it doesn’t compromise their breathing. " https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/q-a-children-and-masks-related-to-covid-19
And also, how is this not an anti-vaxx message again? Less than 30 minutes ago by our CDC Director.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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If you're not attempting to sway people, why are you here posting? I didn't say you were effective or good at it.gvn2fly1421 said:Also, mrussell, you state that I am on here putting out misinformation and that I am swaying people. I can picture it now, "Honey, I am seeking medical information from the interwebs and I went to my go to for all information, a 90's band website! They have all the info. Dr. FlyGuy said not to trust Fauci!" Come on, that is crazy. I (along with most here) have a device that fits in our pocket where we can search out any information we ever wanted to know, and the thought it that they are using it to come to pearljam.gum and read what ol' FlyGuy is saying? Now, I personally prefer watching pizza videos and playing games on my device, but to each their own.0 -
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You’re out of sequence (reread it - HFD is correct) and I was being a dick (don’t have one but can certainly be one) with my response.gvn2fly1421 said:
Literally one post above this, where the guy (or gal) says that show will end "when all the unvaccinated people die."HughFreakingDillon said:
where in the fuck did anyone suggest this?gvn2fly1421 said:
Again, the thought seems to be here, you get Covid, you immediately go to the hospital which is not the case at all. Or that you get deathly sick, which for the majority of people is not true.HughFreakingDillon said:
nope. it's the communal responsibility message. it's the same message our health officials have been giving us.gvn2fly1421 said:
Our own leaders sow doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines. Parading around in masks after being fully vaccinated is the ultimate anti-vax message, no?mrussel1 said:
And what do you know.. ."virus gonna virus" in the next post.. that's herd immunity right there. Nothing we can do, just let it ride. That's the language spoken to support that notion.tempo_n_groove said:PJNB said:
Who has answered everything?tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
OK, nevermind then... I don't see it that way.mrussel1 said:
No he hasn't, not in the least. He keeps posting bullshit graphs and when challenged, he moves onto something else. Has been doing it for weeks. He also advocated for herd immunity and when confronted with the possible death count, wouldn't reply to any posts and whether those numbers were acceptable. So I take issue with your statement completely.tempo_n_groove said:
Wasn't it Spiritual Chaos that was posting about what Sweden was doing and everyone lambasted him too and called him a troll?benjs said:
I formally pledge not to feed the troll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Man, this is so scary on two fronts. First, the thought that everyone catches covid needs medical attention is so far from being accurate. I saw something the other day and of course cannot find it now, but around a percent of people who catch covid actually require medical attention.cblock4life said:If you get covid and were not vaccinated when eligible then your insurance company shouldn’t have to pay your medical bills. And I realize that many aren’t going to care about it but there will be people who will fear this punishment more than the shot.
Secondly, if we do this for covid can we do it for morbidly obese people and heart problems? What about smokers with lung problems? Slippery slopes and all...
Went on a walk earlier and was thinking about this, and I honestly do not see how what I am about to post should even be controversial at this point. We are 14-15 months into this thing. Everyone, literally everyone, knows the risks at this point associated with catching covid. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. If you don't, don't. If you still do not feel safe and do not want to leave the house, don't. It is beyond time for the government and public health officials to get out of the way, open the country back up, and lets all start moving forward again.
The person hasn't backed down and has answered everything. Doesn't seem to get off on antagonizing people like some do.
Spreading misinformation, lies, sewing doubt in the efficacy of the vaccines needs to be countered, no matter how harsh it gets.
YOU CAN STILL POTENTIALLY SPREAD COVID IF VACCINATED. YOU JUST WON'T GET AS SICK.
Last time I will touch on this, for me personally and my family, we looked at it like this. Would we rather take our chance with the vaccine (side effects, long term consequences) or we would we rather take our chance with the virus itself? For us, the virus won. But FlyGuy, think about the grandparents... Well, we did and the grandparents are not getting vaccinated. As I said two or three posts ago, we ALL know the risks and the majority of us have ALL had a chance to get vaccinated so at one point does the show end and life return to normal?Whatever your reason is you and your family are making decisions that will be detrimental to many and if karma bites you in the ass...oh well....
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huh?OnWis97 said:Bentleyspop said:Best/worst thing you can do to a troll is to IGNORE AND NOT RESPOND.There's a lot of frustration because the troll won.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
as I recall much of the effort initially was to slow the spread. so as not to overwhelm the healthcare system, which we did see in the early hit areas, in addition to securing the most basic of ppe for the health system. this was at a time when we knew little to nothing about what it was, how it attacked the body, treatments for it at various stages etc......all this hampered by a petulent manchild who tried to make it about him and a cadre of sycophants. consistently contradicting people we readily trusted in other health crises_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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He's not hopeless - his goal is not to learn. I pledge to not feed the troll, though I'll gladly talk to any of you fine folks about him.HughFreakingDillon said:i'm done. you're hopeless.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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He's not hopeless - his goal is not to learn. I pledge to not feed the troll, though I'll gladly talk to any of you fine folks about him.HughFreakingDillon said:i'm done. you're hopeless.thats beneath you. you are one the more patient, reasoned arguers here. posting intelligent , well thought out responses.keep THAT up.
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I’m totally stupid when it comes to this social media shit, not on FB, IG....nothing...did I do something wrong that made the troll win?OnWis97 said:Bentleyspop said:Best/worst thing you can do to a troll is to IGNORE AND NOT RESPOND.There's a lot of frustration because the troll won.0 -
Agreemickeyrat said:as I recall much of the effort initially was to slow the spread. so as not to overwhelm the healthcare system, which we did see in the early hit areas, in addition to securing the most basic of ppe for the health system. this was at a time when we knew little to nothing about what it was, how it attacked the body, treatments for it at various stages etc......all this hampered by a petulent manchild who tried to make it about him and a cadre of sycophants. consistently contradicting people we readily trusted in other health crises0 -
no, that's just how Onwis posts. incredibly cynical, thinking the bad guy always won. convinced trump would win, it would be the end of democracy as we know it. he didn't. now convinced he'll win in 2024, ivanka 2028, you get the idea.cblock4life said:
I’m totally stupid when it comes to this social media shit, not on FB, IG....nothing...did I do something wrong that made the troll win?OnWis97 said:Bentleyspop said:Best/worst thing you can do to a troll is to IGNORE AND NOT RESPOND.There's a lot of frustration because the troll won.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
No the troll won because we’re not going to hit heard immunity. There are enough people like him that we’re going to be going through this indefinitely and I happen to believe that’s what he and his want.cblock4life said:
I’m totally stupid when it comes to this social media shit, not on FB, IG....nothing...did I do something wrong that made the troll win?OnWis97 said:Bentleyspop said:Best/worst thing you can do to a troll is to IGNORE AND NOT RESPOND.There's a lot of frustration because the troll won.
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How do we (people that got the vaccine) “lose” if others don’t get it? And why do we need to hit herd immunity? I say so long as the health care system doesn’t get overwhelmed again by covid cases, then people who refused the vaccine that contract the virus will have to live with it, or die from it.OnWis97 said:
No the troll won because we’re not going to hit heard immunity. There are enough people like him that we’re going to be going through this indefinitely and I happen to believe that’s what he and his want.cblock4life said:
I’m totally stupid when it comes to this social media shit, not on FB, IG....nothing...did I do something wrong that made the troll win?OnWis97 said:Bentleyspop said:Best/worst thing you can do to a troll is to IGNORE AND NOT RESPOND.There's a lot of frustration because the troll won.
He didn’t win these arguments; but in the real world he wins and we lose.It’d be one thing if there were people that wanted the vaccine and couldn’t get it. Then I’d feel a responsibility to help keep them safe, as I did during the height of the pandemic. But people that simply refused the vaccine? It’s up to them to keep themselves safe.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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no, we won't be going through this indefinitely.OnWis97 said:
No the troll won because we’re not going to hit heard immunity. There are enough people like him that we’re going to be going through this indefinitely and I happen to believe that’s what he and his want.cblock4life said:
I’m totally stupid when it comes to this social media shit, not on FB, IG....nothing...did I do something wrong that made the troll win?OnWis97 said:Bentleyspop said:Best/worst thing you can do to a troll is to IGNORE AND NOT RESPOND.There's a lot of frustration because the troll won.
He didn’t win these arguments; but in the real world he wins and we lose.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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