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gvn2fly1421 said:Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:tish said:Not sure I agree with this last part of your wife's statement, Mic. Can you expand?she thinks or has read jannsen pissed off the previous admin and that j&j has been on the outscwith gop for quite some time.similar to AZ. think it was oftenreading posted the percentage of dead vs number of shots then posted other percentages for everyday shit we dont blink an eye at. AZ deadJ&J stock has taken a big hit as a result.so they said 6 known dead within the first 2 weeks of injection. 6.8 million doses given. whats that, 1 for every 1.15 million?I dont mean to minimize these tragedies at all. sure their families are heart broken.greater good argument at play here I think. what we are seeing really with all of them at this point is real time trials on a very wide scale.
So, you're about as likely to get a fusilli jerry lodged in your rectum as you are to get a blood clot from the J&J vaccine. Got it.
BTW, if only somebody around here expressed hesitancy to taking these vaccines.... Some more interesting reading below, and I would recommend going to her twitter feed as she is a big liberal, on some of the effects of the vaccines.
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Friends wife who was in respirator, is back home now. Hopefully she'll be fine."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:Friends wife who was in respirator, is back home now. Hopefully she'll be fine.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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Bullshit..they don't care for profit, only for our health..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-bulgaria-pfizer-prices/bulgarian-pm-reveals-price-for-eus-new-vaccine-contract-with-pfizer-idUSKBN2BZ1JP
Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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gvn2fly1421 said:bootlegger10 said:Well with issues from Astrozenica and J&J you can’t be too upset with those arguing the vaccines are rushed.0
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23scidoo said:Bullshit..they don't care for profit, only for our health..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-bulgaria-pfizer-prices/bulgarian-pm-reveals-price-for-eus-new-vaccine-contract-with-pfizer-idUSKBN2BZ1JP0 -
gvn2fly1421 said:Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:tish said:Not sure I agree with this last part of your wife's statement, Mic. Can you expand?she thinks or has read jannsen pissed off the previous admin and that j&j has been on the outscwith gop for quite some time.similar to AZ. think it was oftenreading posted the percentage of dead vs number of shots then posted other percentages for everyday shit we dont blink an eye at. AZ deadJ&J stock has taken a big hit as a result.so they said 6 known dead within the first 2 weeks of injection. 6.8 million doses given. whats that, 1 for every 1.15 million?I dont mean to minimize these tragedies at all. sure their families are heart broken.greater good argument at play here I think. what we are seeing really with all of them at this point is real time trials on a very wide scale.
So, you're about as likely to get a fusilli jerry lodged in your rectum as you are to get a blood clot from the J&J vaccine. Got it.
BTW, if only somebody around here expressed hesitancy to taking these vaccines.... Some more interesting reading below, and I would recommend going to her twitter feed as she is a big liberal, on some of the effects of the vaccines.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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gvn2fly1421 said:Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:tish said:Not sure I agree with this last part of your wife's statement, Mic. Can you expand?she thinks or has read jannsen pissed off the previous admin and that j&j has been on the outscwith gop for quite some time.similar to AZ. think it was oftenreading posted the percentage of dead vs number of shots then posted other percentages for everyday shit we dont blink an eye at. AZ deadJ&J stock has taken a big hit as a result.so they said 6 known dead within the first 2 weeks of injection. 6.8 million doses given. whats that, 1 for every 1.15 million?I dont mean to minimize these tragedies at all. sure their families are heart broken.greater good argument at play here I think. what we are seeing really with all of them at this point is real time trials on a very wide scale.
So, you're about as likely to get a fusilli jerry lodged in your rectum as you are to get a blood clot from the J&J vaccine. Got it.
BTW, if only somebody around here expressed hesitancy to taking these vaccines.... Some more interesting reading below, and I would recommend going to her twitter feed as she is a big liberal, on some of the effects of the vaccines.0 -
bootlegger10 said:Well with issues from Astrozenica and J&J you can’t be too upset with those arguing the vaccines are rushed.For the Phase III studies alone, more than 165,000 participants in total were enrolled (combining Pfizer, Moderna, AZ and Janssen). It’s my understanding that only one blood clot issue occurred, and that was with the Janssen vaccine. The study was halted while it was investigated and then restarted.The clots of concern we see now did not show up until many more than 10 million people had been vaccinated. There is zero chance that these potential side effects would have been discovered without massive roll out worldwide, which means that no matter how slowly the vaccines were developed, we would not have known about this as a potential issue.It’s also worth noting that the “new” vaccines, the mRNA vaccines, do not appear to have this potential side effect. It’s only the vaccines using tried and true technologies that have caused concern. They would not have had any greater oversight had vaccine development taken years, not months.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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oftenreading said:bootlegger10 said:Well with issues from Astrozenica and J&J you can’t be too upset with those arguing the vaccines are rushed.For the Phase III studies alone, more than 165,000 participants in total were enrolled (combining Pfizer, Moderna, AZ and Janssen). It’s my understanding that only one blood clot issue occurred, and that was with the Janssen vaccine. The study was halted while it was investigated and then restarted.The clots of concern we see now did not show up until many more than 10 million people had been vaccinated. There is zero chance that these potential side effects would have been discovered without massive roll out worldwide, which means that no matter how slowly the vaccines were developed, we would not have known about this as a potential issue.It’s also worth noting that the “new” vaccines, the mRNA vaccines, do not appear to have this potential side effect. It’s only the vaccines using tried and true technologies that have caused concern. They would not have had any greater oversight had vaccine development taken years, not months.0
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gvn2fly1421 said:Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:tish said:Not sure I agree with this last part of your wife's statement, Mic. Can you expand?she thinks or has read jannsen pissed off the previous admin and that j&j has been on the outscwith gop for quite some time.similar to AZ. think it was oftenreading posted the percentage of dead vs number of shots then posted other percentages for everyday shit we dont blink an eye at. AZ deadJ&J stock has taken a big hit as a result.so they said 6 known dead within the first 2 weeks of injection. 6.8 million doses given. whats that, 1 for every 1.15 million?I dont mean to minimize these tragedies at all. sure their families are heart broken.greater good argument at play here I think. what we are seeing really with all of them at this point is real time trials on a very wide scale.
So, you're about as likely to get a fusilli jerry lodged in your rectum as you are to get a blood clot from the J&J vaccine. Got it.
BTW, if only somebody around here expressed hesitancy to taking these vaccines.... Some more interesting reading below, and I would recommend going to her twitter feed as she is a big liberal, on some of the effects of the vaccines.
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mrussel1 said:23scidoo said:Bullshit..they don't care for profit, only for our health..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-bulgaria-pfizer-prices/bulgarian-pm-reveals-price-for-eus-new-vaccine-contract-with-pfizer-idUSKBN2BZ1JP
clear??Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
mickeyrat said:tish said:Not sure I agree with this last part of your wife's statement, Mic. Can you expand?she thinks or has read jannsen pissed off the previous admin and that j&j has been on the outscwith gop for quite some time.similar to AZ. think it was oftenreading posted the percentage of dead vs number of shots then posted other percentages for everyday shit we dont blink an eye at. AZ deadJ&J stock has taken a big hit as a result.so they said 6 known dead within the first 2 weeks of injection. 6.8 million doses given. whats that, 1 for every 1.15 million?I dont mean to minimize these tragedies at all. sure their families are heart broken.greater good argument at play here I think. what we are seeing really with all of them at this point is real time trials on a very wide scale.I won’t comment on the rest as I have no info on it.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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mrussel1 said:oftenreading said:bootlegger10 said:Well with issues from Astrozenica and J&J you can’t be too upset with those arguing the vaccines are rushed.For the Phase III studies alone, more than 165,000 participants in total were enrolled (combining Pfizer, Moderna, AZ and Janssen). It’s my understanding that only one blood clot issue occurred, and that was with the Janssen vaccine. The study was halted while it was investigated and then restarted.The clots of concern we see now did not show up until many more than 10 million people had been vaccinated. There is zero chance that these potential side effects would have been discovered without massive roll out worldwide, which means that no matter how slowly the vaccines were developed, we would not have known about this as a potential issue.It’s also worth noting that the “new” vaccines, the mRNA vaccines, do not appear to have this potential side effect. It’s only the vaccines using tried and true technologies that have caused concern. They would not have had any greater oversight had vaccine development taken years, not months.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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23scidoo said:mrussel1 said:23scidoo said:Bullshit..they don't care for profit, only for our health..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-bulgaria-pfizer-prices/bulgarian-pm-reveals-price-for-eus-new-vaccine-contract-with-pfizer-idUSKBN2BZ1JP
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mrussel1 said:gvn2fly1421 said:Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:tish said:Not sure I agree with this last part of your wife's statement, Mic. Can you expand?she thinks or has read jannsen pissed off the previous admin and that j&j has been on the outscwith gop for quite some time.similar to AZ. think it was oftenreading posted the percentage of dead vs number of shots then posted other percentages for everyday shit we dont blink an eye at. AZ deadJ&J stock has taken a big hit as a result.so they said 6 known dead within the first 2 weeks of injection. 6.8 million doses given. whats that, 1 for every 1.15 million?I dont mean to minimize these tragedies at all. sure their families are heart broken.greater good argument at play here I think. what we are seeing really with all of them at this point is real time trials on a very wide scale.
So, you're about as likely to get a fusilli jerry lodged in your rectum as you are to get a blood clot from the J&J vaccine. Got it.
BTW, if only somebody around here expressed hesitancy to taking these vaccines.... Some more interesting reading below, and I would recommend going to her twitter feed as she is a big liberal, on some of the effects of the vaccines.
If I came in first thing this morning and said that "The Biden Administration is putting pressure on the FDA because Alex Gorsky voted for Trump and is a big Trump supporter and that is why they shut down the vaccine", you honestly with a straight face cannot say I would not be getting called every conspiracy thing under the sun.
If you cannot agree with this, you are what I refer to as "too far gone". Come back to the middle and realize neither side gives a shit about you! It's safe here, I promise.0 -
23scidoo said:Bullshit..they don't care for profit, only for our health..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-bulgaria-pfizer-prices/bulgarian-pm-reveals-price-for-eus-new-vaccine-contract-with-pfizer-idUSKBN2BZ1JP
"If you think they are making money now, wait til the 6 month boosters come out"
...but that might be too close to the truth.0
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