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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,585
     
    Can you mix and match COVID-19 vaccines?
    By MARIA CHENG
    1 hour ago

    Can you mix and match two-dose COVID-19 vaccines?

    It's likely safe and effective, but researchers are still gathering data to be sure.

    The authorized COVID-19 shots around the world are all designed to stimulate your immune system to produce virus-fighting antibodies, though the way they do so varies, noted Dr. Kate O’Brien, director of the World Health Organization’s vaccine unit.

    “Based on the basic principles of how vaccines work, we do think that the mix-and-match regimens are going to work,” she said.

    Scientists at Oxford University in the United Kingdom are testing combinations of the two-dose COVID-19 vaccines made by AstraZeneca, Moderna, Novavax and Pfizer-BioNTech. Smaller trials are also ongoing in Spain and Germany.

    “We really just need to get the evidence in each of these (vaccine) combinations,” O’Brien said.

    So far, limited data suggests an AstraZeneca shot followed by the Pfizer shot is safe and effective. The combination also appears to come with a slightly higher likelihood of temporary side effects like aches and chills.

    That might be because mixing and matching different types of vaccines can often produce a stronger immune response, said Lawrence Young, a virologist at the University of Warwick in the United Kingdom.

    In some places, health officials already suggest mixing in select circumstances.

    After the AstraZeneca vaccine was linked to extremely rare blood clots, several European countries including Germany and France recommended people who got it as a first dose get a Pfizer or Moderna shot as a second dose instead. On Thursday, Canada made the same recommendation.

    Some places like Britain say people should aim to get the same vaccine for their second dose if possible. If they got AstraZeneca as their first shot, they're advised to get another vaccine only if they have a history of blood clots or other conditions that might put them at higher risk of clots.

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    mickeyrat said:
     
    Can you mix and match COVID-19 vaccines?
    By MARIA CHENG
    1 hour ago

    Can you mix and match two-dose COVID-19 vaccines?

    It's likely safe and effective, but researchers are still gathering data to be sure.

    The authorized COVID-19 shots around the world are all designed to stimulate your immune system to produce virus-fighting antibodies, though the way they do so varies, noted Dr. Kate O’Brien, director of the World Health Organization’s vaccine unit.

    “Based on the basic principles of how vaccines work, we do think that the mix-and-match regimens are going to work,” she said.

    Scientists at Oxford University in the United Kingdom are testing combinations of the two-dose COVID-19 vaccines made by AstraZeneca, Moderna, Novavax and Pfizer-BioNTech. Smaller trials are also ongoing in Spain and Germany.

    “We really just need to get the evidence in each of these (vaccine) combinations,” O’Brien said.

    So far, limited data suggests an AstraZeneca shot followed by the Pfizer shot is safe and effective. The combination also appears to come with a slightly higher likelihood of temporary side effects like aches and chills.

    That might be because mixing and matching different types of vaccines can often produce a stronger immune response, said Lawrence Young, a virologist at the University of Warwick in the United Kingdom.

    In some places, health officials already suggest mixing in select circumstances.

    After the AstraZeneca vaccine was linked to extremely rare blood clots, several European countries including Germany and France recommended people who got it as a first dose get a Pfizer or Moderna shot as a second dose instead. On Thursday, Canada made the same recommendation.

    Some places like Britain say people should aim to get the same vaccine for their second dose if possible. If they got AstraZeneca as their first shot, they're advised to get another vaccine only if they have a history of blood clots or other conditions that might put them at higher risk of clots.

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    The AP is answering your questions about the coronavirus in this series. Submit them at: FactCheck@AP.org. Read more here:

    Why do some people get side effects after COVID-19 vaccines?

    Can COVID-19 vaccines affect my period?

    How long does protection from COVID-19 vaccines last?


    I'm one week out from my second dose of two different vaccines. All good here.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    At this point,  with a normal ass president,  I pretty much hope it came from the lab.  That would benefit the US geopolitically,  galvanizing other countries to take a harder line against China.  
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    mrussel1 said:
    At this point,  with a normal ass president,  I pretty much hope it came from the lab.  That would benefit the US geopolitically,  galvanizing other countries to take a harder line against China.  
    Why? We have the same types of labs here. There’s one in Boston. There’s one in Richmond. 

    Perhaps other countries should take a harder line against building these types of labs in metropolitan areas. 

    When Bainbridge, Oppenheimer, and the rest of those “sons of bitches” experimented with their weapons of mass destruction, they did so in the middle of a goddamn desert. 

    But let’s fuck with biological weapons of mass
    destruction in Boston, Wuhan, Atlanta, Richmond, Winnipeg, Rome, San Antonio, Taipei, etc. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    At this point,  with a normal ass president,  I pretty much hope it came from the lab.  That would benefit the US geopolitically,  galvanizing other countries to take a harder line against China.  
    Why? We have the same types of labs here. There’s one in Boston. There’s one in Richmond. 

    Perhaps other countries should take a harder line against building these types of labs in metropolitan areas. 

    When Bainbridge, Oppenheimer, and the rest of those “sons of bitches” experimented with their weapons of mass destruction, they did so in the middle of a goddamn desert. 

    But let’s fuck with biological weapons of mass
    destruction in Boston, Wuhan, Atlanta, Richmond, Winnipeg, Rome, San Antonio, Taipei, etc. 
    You forgot this gem.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    At this point,  with a normal ass president,  I pretty much hope it came from the lab.  That would benefit the US geopolitically,  galvanizing other countries to take a harder line against China.  
    Why? We have the same types of labs here. There’s one in Boston. There’s one in Richmond. 

    Perhaps other countries should take a harder line against building these types of labs in metropolitan areas. 

    When Bainbridge, Oppenheimer, and the rest of those “sons of bitches” experimented with their weapons of mass destruction, they did so in the middle of a goddamn desert. 

    But let’s fuck with biological weapons of mass
    destruction in Boston, Wuhan, Atlanta, Richmond, Winnipeg, Rome, San Antonio, Taipei, etc. 
    I'm not making that argument.  The virus happened.  So if we can box China in on a number of issues like currency manipulation,  human rights,  trade,  then all the better.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,585
    as long as all ppe protocols are followed as to threat level of a given virus, it can be beneficial to do these studies.

    Recall reading how some of the techs were working  on this virus or one like it in a lab space with much less stringent protocols. like level 2 when they should have been in a level 4 lab? all suited up etc etc.....
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  • dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    At this point,  with a normal ass president,  I pretty much hope it came from the lab.  That would benefit the US geopolitically,  galvanizing other countries to take a harder line against China.  
    Why? We have the same types of labs here. There’s one in Boston. There’s one in Richmond. 

    Perhaps other countries should take a harder line against building these types of labs in metropolitan areas. 

    When Bainbridge, Oppenheimer, and the rest of those “sons of bitches” experimented with their weapons of mass destruction, they did so in the middle of a goddamn desert. 

    But let’s fuck with biological weapons of mass
    destruction in Boston, Wuhan, Atlanta, Richmond, Winnipeg, Rome, San Antonio, Taipei, etc. 
    scared the shit out of me when I found out there was one near my house, and the controversy over the couple that worked there, travelled to wuhan in the summer of 2019, and were dismissed from their jobs shortly after and no one will say why. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,585
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    At this point,  with a normal ass president,  I pretty much hope it came from the lab.  That would benefit the US geopolitically,  galvanizing other countries to take a harder line against China.  
    Why? We have the same types of labs here. There’s one in Boston. There’s one in Richmond. 

    Perhaps other countries should take a harder line against building these types of labs in metropolitan areas. 

    When Bainbridge, Oppenheimer, and the rest of those “sons of bitches” experimented with their weapons of mass destruction, they did so in the middle of a goddamn desert. 

    But let’s fuck with biological weapons of mass
    destruction in Boston, Wuhan, Atlanta, Richmond, Winnipeg, Rome, San Antonio, Taipei, etc. 
    scared the shit out of me when I found out there was one near my house, and the controversy over the couple that worked there, travelled to wuhan in the summer of 2019, and were dismissed from their jobs shortly after and no one will say why. 

    could possibly be they objected to the type labs being used for some of the viruses...


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  • mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    At this point,  with a normal ass president,  I pretty much hope it came from the lab.  That would benefit the US geopolitically,  galvanizing other countries to take a harder line against China.  
    Why? We have the same types of labs here. There’s one in Boston. There’s one in Richmond. 

    Perhaps other countries should take a harder line against building these types of labs in metropolitan areas. 

    When Bainbridge, Oppenheimer, and the rest of those “sons of bitches” experimented with their weapons of mass destruction, they did so in the middle of a goddamn desert. 

    But let’s fuck with biological weapons of mass
    destruction in Boston, Wuhan, Atlanta, Richmond, Winnipeg, Rome, San Antonio, Taipei, etc. 
    scared the shit out of me when I found out there was one near my house, and the controversy over the couple that worked there, travelled to wuhan in the summer of 2019, and were dismissed from their jobs shortly after and no one will say why. 

    could possibly be they objected to the type labs being used for some of the viruses...


    you're right, I never considered something like that. it was just the succession of events that was reported, then the secrecy, my mind naturally went to "were they involved in this somehow?"
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  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,672
    That and the news suggested they may not be charged so evidence doesn't become public record.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Canada now expects to have 69 million doses of vaccine by the end of July, more than enough to vaccinate everyone over the age of 12, which moves up our expected timeline to complete full vaccination for everyone who wants it by two months. This is largely due to increased commitments of Moderna in the next 6 weeks. 

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-vaccine-doses-end-july-1.6071473

    Oh no, what will the complainers find to complain about once this vaccine campaign has been successfully delivered?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    edited June 2021
    Countdown has started here in Alberta. All restrictions will be gone by July 1st, Canada Day.

    By then we might have around 75% with first dose and 40 to 50% with second dose.

    I'm confident we will be okay, but only time will tell. Tough not to feel confident after watching packed crowds at sporting events in the US with little to no repercussions.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    dignin said:
    Countdown has started here in Alberta. All restrictions will be gone by July 1st, Canada Day.

    By then we might have around 75% with first dose and 40 to 50% with second dose.

    I'm confident we will be okay, but only time will tell. Tough not to feel confident after watching packed crowds at sporting events in the US with little to no repercussions.
    Good luck! BC is more cautious, despite our laid back stoner reputation :lol: . But we are doing very well with vaccinations and I expect we'll get to that happy place eventually too. We already have more than 75% of those eligible vaccinated (over 12s) and are working hard on second doses. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    dignin said:
    Countdown has started here in Alberta. All restrictions will be gone by July 1st, Canada Day.

    By then we might have around 75% with first dose and 40 to 50% with second dose.

    I'm confident we will be okay, but only time will tell. Tough not to feel confident after watching packed crowds at sporting events in the US with little to no repercussions.
    Good luck! BC is more cautious, despite our laid back stoner reputation :lol: . But we are doing very well with vaccinations and I expect we'll get to that happy place eventually too. We already have more than 75% of those eligible vaccinated (over 12s) and are working hard on second doses. 
    Nice work BC! You guys are kicking our ass in first doses. But no big surprise with our large rural population. Our cities are doing great though. 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited June 2021


    While we are a small province we are doing great with vaccinations imo. The first dose is now only going up 0.2% daily so we are as close to as good as it gets there but the second dose is going up over 1.5% a day. It was 1.7% yesterday alone the highest count yet. At this rate we will be double vaxxed and above 75% in 33 days. Incredible and hope all of those that got a first shot get a second. I am definitely worried there especially with people only getting one dose due to the summer incentives from it. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    I can book my app for my second dose on my Monday…yeah.  I want see guns and roses in Detroit…the border has to open 1st.  Let’s hope it opens July 21 and I can still get tickets…
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    Unvaccinated Buffalo Bills Player Blasts NFL COVID Protocols: “I’d Rather Die Actually Living”


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/unvaccinated-cole-beasley-blasts-nfl-covid-protocols.html?via=rss
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,939
    second dose done
    Awesome!
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,939

    Unvaccinated Buffalo Bills Player Blasts NFL COVID Protocols: “I’d Rather Die Actually Living”


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/unvaccinated-cole-beasley-blasts-nfl-covid-protocols.html?via=rss
    Jackass arguments.  
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,250
    Have you made AZ and you want to see Springsteen??
    No no no...
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524

    Unvaccinated Buffalo Bills Player Blasts NFL COVID Protocols: “I’d Rather Die Actually Living”


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/unvaccinated-cole-beasley-blasts-nfl-covid-protocols.html?via=rss

    Cole Beasley is unsmart.


  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    23scidoo said:
    Have you made AZ and you want to see Springsteen??
    No no no...
    Actually its yes yes yes

    SPRINGSTEEN ON BROADWAY Will Allow Guests Vaccinated With FDA or WHO Approved Vaccine (broadwayworld.com)
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,250
    Poncier said:
    23scidoo said:
    Have you made AZ and you want to see Springsteen??
    No no no...
    Actually its yes yes yes

    SPRINGSTEEN ON BROADWAY Will Allow Guests Vaccinated With FDA or WHO Approved Vaccine (broadwayworld.com)
    News change every day 🙂🙂
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,857

    Unvaccinated Buffalo Bills Player Blasts NFL COVID Protocols: “I’d Rather Die Actually Living”


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/unvaccinated-cole-beasley-blasts-nfl-covid-protocols.html?via=rss
    That can be arranged, just keep acting like the virus is not a big deal and eventually you might get your wish.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Poncier said:
    23scidoo said:
    Have you made AZ and you want to see Springsteen??
    No no no...
    Actually its yes yes yes

    SPRINGSTEEN ON BROADWAY Will Allow Guests Vaccinated With FDA or WHO Approved Vaccine (broadwayworld.com)
    Just more proof that the fake China virus is no worse than a cold, but we can thank Trump's Operation Warp Speed for saving humanity from this deadly plague.  Without him, we would not have had the greatest economy ever, which Biden has trashed in 6 months because Democratic cities all over the country are burned to the ground. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018

    Unvaccinated Buffalo Bills Player Blasts NFL COVID Protocols: “I’d Rather Die Actually Living”


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/unvaccinated-cole-beasley-blasts-nfl-covid-protocols.html?via=rss
    That can be arranged, just keep acting like the virus is not a big deal and eventually you might get your wish.  
    It’s just a matter of time.
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    Unvaccinated Buffalo Bills Player Blasts NFL COVID Protocols: “I’d Rather Die Actually Living”


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/unvaccinated-cole-beasley-blasts-nfl-covid-protocols.html?via=rss
    That can be arranged, just keep acting like the virus is not a big deal and eventually you might get your wish.  

    Lucky for him most of the rest of us are protecting him.

    "Id rather die actually living?"  What does this even mean?  In what way does the vaccination stop someone from "actually living?" It's not like being afraid of traffic collisions and never going anywhere. In fact, for most of us it's what's enabling us to "actually live." This makes less sense than other nonsensical nonsense like "god is my vaccination." Geez. Just say "MAGA" and move on.
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