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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    wow!!!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cdc-director-surprises-cnns-151700805.html

    Former CDC director surprises CNN's Sanjay Gupta by revealing he believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab

    CNN's Sanjay Gupta appeared taken aback in a new interview as former CDC Director Robert Redfield shared his "opinion" on the origins of COVID-19.

    Gupta spoke with Redfield as part of a new CNN documentary about the COVID-19 pandemic, and the former CDC chief revealed he thinks it's likely the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab and was possibly already being transmitted in September 2019.

    "If I was to guess, this virus started transmitting somewhere in September, October in Wuhan," Redfield said. "That's my own view. It's only an opinion. I'm allowed to have opinions now."

    Redfield continued that he thinks the "most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," though he said he's not "implying any intentionality" and reiterated "it's my opinion." The World Health Organization's Dr. Peter Ben Embarek said last month it's "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in Wuhan and that instead, "our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway," per NBC News.


    But Redfield told CNN, "I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human, and at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission." He noted, though, that "other people don't believe" this Wuhan lab theory, and "science will eventually figure it out."

    Gupta commented on the "remarkable" nature of this conversation, noting that these are "significant" statements to be made by an official who served as the CDC's director throughout most of the COVID-19 pandemic. Indeed, Gupta said on CNN while setting up the clip, "This was extraordinary." Watch the exchange below.


    really shouldnt be a surprise....
    That he made these comments or that it in fact came from a lab?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,513
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    wow!!!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cdc-director-surprises-cnns-151700805.html

    Former CDC director surprises CNN's Sanjay Gupta by revealing he believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab

    CNN's Sanjay Gupta appeared taken aback in a new interview as former CDC Director Robert Redfield shared his "opinion" on the origins of COVID-19.

    Gupta spoke with Redfield as part of a new CNN documentary about the COVID-19 pandemic, and the former CDC chief revealed he thinks it's likely the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab and was possibly already being transmitted in September 2019.

    "If I was to guess, this virus started transmitting somewhere in September, October in Wuhan," Redfield said. "That's my own view. It's only an opinion. I'm allowed to have opinions now."

    Redfield continued that he thinks the "most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," though he said he's not "implying any intentionality" and reiterated "it's my opinion." The World Health Organization's Dr. Peter Ben Embarek said last month it's "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in Wuhan and that instead, "our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway," per NBC News.


    But Redfield told CNN, "I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human, and at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission." He noted, though, that "other people don't believe" this Wuhan lab theory, and "science will eventually figure it out."

    Gupta commented on the "remarkable" nature of this conversation, noting that these are "significant" statements to be made by an official who served as the CDC's director throughout most of the COVID-19 pandemic. Indeed, Gupta said on CNN while setting up the clip, "This was extraordinary." Watch the exchange below.


    really shouldnt be a surprise....
    That he made these comments or that it in fact came from a lab?

    that those are his beliefs..
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,479
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    wow!!!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cdc-director-surprises-cnns-151700805.html

    Former CDC director surprises CNN's Sanjay Gupta by revealing he believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab

    CNN's Sanjay Gupta appeared taken aback in a new interview as former CDC Director Robert Redfield shared his "opinion" on the origins of COVID-19.

    Gupta spoke with Redfield as part of a new CNN documentary about the COVID-19 pandemic, and the former CDC chief revealed he thinks it's likely the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab and was possibly already being transmitted in September 2019.

    "If I was to guess, this virus started transmitting somewhere in September, October in Wuhan," Redfield said. "That's my own view. It's only an opinion. I'm allowed to have opinions now."

    Redfield continued that he thinks the "most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," though he said he's not "implying any intentionality" and reiterated "it's my opinion." The World Health Organization's Dr. Peter Ben Embarek said last month it's "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in Wuhan and that instead, "our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway," per NBC News.


    But Redfield told CNN, "I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human, and at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission." He noted, though, that "other people don't believe" this Wuhan lab theory, and "science will eventually figure it out."

    Gupta commented on the "remarkable" nature of this conversation, noting that these are "significant" statements to be made by an official who served as the CDC's director throughout most of the COVID-19 pandemic. Indeed, Gupta said on CNN while setting up the clip, "This was extraordinary." Watch the exchange below.


    really shouldnt be a surprise....
    That he made these comments or that it in fact came from a lab?

    that those are his beliefs..
    I could definitely get behind his beliefs on this, it makes a lot of sense.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,659
    dankind said:
    dignin said:
    23scidoo said:
    Hobbes said:
    23scidoo said:
    The companies don't care brother  thats well known
    But my friend all i read here is this..''trust the science!!''
    people like to sleep and dream..

    The breadth of science is not limited simply to pharmaceutical companies.
    23scidoo said:
    The companies don't care brother  thats well known
    But my friend all i read here is this..''trust the science!!''
    people like to sleep and dream..

    Yes definitely trust science. It's the best we have. Pharma is money . Different  things 
    Disagree..at this point the whole planet dance and they play the music..
    Your ignorance is astounding.

    How can anyone even begin to have a rational conversation with someone who believes that a pharmaceutical company equals science.

    I just hope nobody here takes your nonsense seriously.
    How many Big Pharma CEOs actually have advanced degrees in biochemistry or a related field?

    Is it more than zero?

    I'll wait....


    A bit of a trick question because the corporate ladder is rigged for lawyers and MBAs, even for Big Pharma, but we could assume a medical doctor has a ton of education in biochemistry

    ” Dr. Caforio has served as CEO of Bristol Myers Squibb since May 2015 and became chairman of the board of directors in May 2017. Dr. Caforio received his medical degree from the University of Rome and joined Bristol Myers Squibb in Italy in 2000. “
    "Rigged"? As in,  people who have degrees focused on running a business tend to get more opportunities to run a business? 

    That's not rigged, that's playing the percentages. 


  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,499
    So, what percentage of people going into ICU comes out of it again?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,779
    Depends. If ventilation then not great odds
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    New York and New Jersey still leading the pack. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,479
    nicknyr15 said:
    New York and New Jersey still leading the pack. 
    We rule.  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,850
    edited March 2021
    Ohio opened up vaccines to everyone starting tomorrow.  4 of my younger siblings (all healthy and in their 20s) were able to sign up and are getting Pfizer dose 1 on Tuesday this week.  Apparently sign up was easy and there were “a lot” of open appointment slots for the mass site at Cleveland State Univ
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  • Hope that starts happening everywhere!
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,750
    My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

    Must be the microchip 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,659
    My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

    Must be the microchip 
    I'm totally skipping the second one now.  My first was Pfizer. 

    Seriously though,  is she okay? Does she react to the flu shot?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Covid-19: Mexico revises coronavirus death toll up by 60%

    The revised report issued by Mexico's health ministry (in Spanish) showed that by the end of the sixth week of 2021 there had been 294,287 deaths "associated with Covid-19" - up from the 182,301 confirmed figure given previously.

    Since mid-February more than 26,772 Covid-19-related deaths have been reported across Mexico which would take the total to more than 321,000.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56558059
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,653
    My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

    Must be the microchip 
    What's everyone got against microchips? Besides a tiny little scar and rice size bump it's not like they cause blood clots!
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    tish said:
    My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

    Must be the microchip 
    What's everyone got against microchips? Besides a tiny little scar and rice size bump it's not like they cause blood clots!

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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,578
    tish said:
    My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

    Must be the microchip 
    What's everyone got against microchips? Besides a tiny little scar and rice size bump it's not like they cause blood clots!

    moderately biblical.  The mark of the beast :)
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,499
    Feeling a bit runny noise-wise and woke up with some slight hurt in my throat.

    Went to get a selftest but they were out of them for today... so will have to go back tomorrow. Worried that the result won't be back before easter... friday is a day off here.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,229
    Feeling a bit runny noise-wise and woke up with some slight hurt in my throat.

    Went to get a selftest but they were out of them for today... so will have to go back tomorrow. Worried that the result won't be back before easter... friday is a day off here.
    Hope you are feeling better tomorrow..
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Dismantling the anti-vaxx industry

    Investigations show that those spreading misinformation that undermines the rollout of vaccines against COVID-19 are well financed, determined and disciplined. To counter their activities, we need to understand them as an industry actively working to sow doubts about the deadliness of COVID-19, vaccines and medical professionals’ integrity.



    The Anti-Vaxx IndustryHow Big Tech powers and profits from anti-vaccine misinformation​Our latest report exposes how social media companies have helped sophisticated and rapidly growing anti-vaxx networks gain 58 million followers. Despite promises to keep users safe, we show how Big Tech itself makes up to $1 billion a year in advertising and other revenues from this industry, which threatens the effectiveness of a future Coronavirus vaccine



    https://www.counterhate.com/anti-vaxx-industry





  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,499
    Depends. If ventilation then not great odds
    Seems she is getting oxygen 24/7 but is awake... so no ventilator then I presume..
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,750
    mrussel1 said:
    My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

    Must be the microchip 
    I'm totally skipping the second one now.  My first was Pfizer. 

    Seriously though,  is she okay? Does she react to the flu shot?
    She went to work this morning.
    Felt better. Exhausted but better.
    My boss got her 2nd Moderna last week. Had about 6 hours of feeling crappy the next day but got past it.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,779
    Depends. If ventilation then not great odds
    Seems she is getting oxygen 24/7 but is awake... so no ventilator then I presume..
    Thats a good thing  I think 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends



    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends



    I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJNB said:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends



    I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 
    That’s a good question.   I work with a lady who had her 1st dose...was not going to get second dose until June or July....maybe they’ll have it sorted out soon...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,421
    Great new in NY. Anyone over 30 is eligible starting  next week!! 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,513
    nicknyr15 said:
    Great new in NY. Anyone over 30 is eligible starting  next week!! 

    given density of the 5 boroughs, how is the state handling injection locations?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,474
    https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-vaccine-passports/
    The end of times is near uhmm I never believed that it would happen in my lifetime! But I’m ready this country is fucked! 
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