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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    Herman Cain dead. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    Herman Cain just died from this "hoax."

    I don't revel in stuff like this happening but I do hope it's a story that helps wake people up.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,476
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 


    Great. I never said Trump did a good or decent or even a bad job. So I’m not sure what trump has to do with anything I’ve said. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,476
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i always love when someone's view is questioned, not even really challenged, and they back away and refuse to engage. :lol:
    Funny right. I chose not to argue on a forum. I don’t have the time or patience to type out a response. Sorry. You win.  
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 


    Great. I never said Trump did a good or decent or even a bad job. So I’m not sure what trump has to do with anything I’ve said. 
    You literally mentioned Trump in your post. 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,476
    I said one thing about leaders failing us and I’m hit with multiple responses about how bad Trump is. Weird. I never said anything positive about Trump. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,476
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 


    Great. I never said Trump did a good or decent or even a bad job. So I’m not sure what trump has to do with anything I’ve said. 
    You literally mentioned Trump in your post. 



    Did I? All I said was everyone is only focused on him. Does that imply he did a good job handing the pandemic? Or are you assuming? 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    The soccer league my middle school is in just canceled the fall season (about 30 schools) due to covid19.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I think lots failed at the start and that is easy to say and see 5 months into this. I can also say that lots are doing the correct thing now. Trump is not one of them. That is the difference. 
  • Gern Blansten
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    Herman Cain dies of COVID-19....RIP
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 


    Great. I never said Trump did a good or decent or even a bad job. So I’m not sure what trump has to do with anything I’ve said. 
    You literally mentioned Trump in your post. 



    Did I? All I said was everyone is only focused on him. Does that imply he did a good job handing the pandemic? Or are you assuming? 
    Not sure what you are trying for here. You said "While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job." I pointed out that these leaders and experts may have failed, but not in the way Trump has. You could have made a better point by leaving Trump out. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    PJNB said:
    I think lots failed at the start and that is easy to say and see 5 months into this. I can also say that lots are doing the correct thing now. Trump is not one of them. That is the difference. 

    Kinda like my employer.  They dragged their feet for the first couple weeks but have really done right by us since.  They were totally unprepared, but hey, who wasn't.  A lot of "leaders" in government, business, science, etc., made mis-steps.  Understandable given how little precedence there is. But I think most make good-faith efforts to do the right thing. Unfortunately, there's a market demand for misinformation, particularly given America's unwillingness for inconvenience.  So you have an entire party thinking about its power and that party's leader (and our leader) thinking about himself.  Mistakes are going to happen...but there's no both-siding this.  The GOP, and particularly Trump, isn't acting in good faith.

    The other thing going on is that we're being exposed to the changing nature of science in real time moreso than usual.  Sometimes there's a story related to a vaccine setback and people freak out...that's just normal scientific process that most of us don't follow. And expert opinions change and unfortunately people view that as weakness when in reality it's indicative of strength and critical thought.  And I am sure that impacts policy leaders into trying to appear steadfast.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,476
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 


    Great. I never said Trump did a good or decent or even a bad job. So I’m not sure what trump has to do with anything I’ve said. 
    You literally mentioned Trump in your post. 



    Did I? All I said was everyone is only focused on him. Does that imply he did a good job handing the pandemic? Or are you assuming? 
    Not sure what you are trying for here. You said "While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job." I pointed out that these leaders and experts may have failed, but not in the way Trump has. You could have made a better point by leaving Trump out. 
    Yes I should have never mentioned him. What a mistake. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    mcgruff10 said:
    The soccer league my middle school is in just canceled the fall season (about 30 schools) due to covid19.
    I keep seeing softball and baseball being played on fields, and signs for hockey signup all over town. I don't see how any of this is a good idea. 
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,900
    Gern Blansten said:
    Herman Cain dies of COVID-19....RIP
    Thats sad.  

    Cancer survivor and was seen attending the Trump rally in the crowd with no mask.  People need clear information from authorities right now and we have not been getting that. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 


    Great. I never said Trump did a good or decent or even a bad job. So I’m not sure what trump has to do with anything I’ve said. 
    You literally mentioned Trump in your post. 



    Did I? All I said was everyone is only focused on him. Does that imply he did a good job handing the pandemic? Or are you assuming? 
    Not sure what you are trying for here. You said "While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job." I pointed out that these leaders and experts may have failed, but not in the way Trump has. You could have made a better point by leaving Trump out. 
    Yes I should have never mentioned him. What a mistake. 
    Pretty much, since you then landed on "I said one thing about leaders failing us and I’m hit with multiple responses about how bad Trump is. Weird. I never said anything positive about Trump."

    Other leaders' and experts' failures aren't comparable to Trumps. That's why his get focused on more. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    Eye protection can sure help in high exposure situations. Within the hospital we are only wearing face shields when there is high risk of exposure, such as aerosol-generating procedures. If you are just out and about in your daily life, it's quite unlikely that you'll be in a situation in which eye protection is going to make the difference. Infection through the eye is much less likely, because (1) the path for the virus particles to get to the respiratory system after entering through the mucous membranes of the eye is much less direct, and (2) you don't have an inspiratory breath bringing them in, like you do with the nose and mouth.

    Given how much pushback there has been on masks, I don't blame Fauci at all for not focusing on eye protection, which is a much less important part of PPE for the general public. It risks muddying the message and further alienating people. Better to keep the message simple and focus on the crucial aspects. 
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  • nicknyr15
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    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 
    how have they failed us? this is a completely new virus that no one knew anything about. trump failed because he doesn't take the advice of the experts when they find something out, like most every other free world leader has done with great success. 
    I’m not getting into a back and forth. It’s my view that countless leaders and experts failed us. Not only Trump. This pandemic completely exposed us. 
    That's fine, but trying and failing isn't what Trump did. He has at times actively worked against those trying. 


    Great. I never said Trump did a good or decent or even a bad job. So I’m not sure what trump has to do with anything I’ve said. 
    You literally mentioned Trump in your post. 



    Did I? All I said was everyone is only focused on him. Does that imply he did a good job handing the pandemic? Or are you assuming? 
    Not sure what you are trying for here. You said "While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job." I pointed out that these leaders and experts may have failed, but not in the way Trump has. You could have made a better point by leaving Trump out. 
    Yes I should have never mentioned him. What a mistake. 
    Pretty much, since you then landed on "I said one thing about leaders failing us and I’m hit with multiple responses about how bad Trump is. Weird. I never said anything positive about Trump."

    Other leaders' and experts' failures aren't comparable to Trumps. That's why his get focused on more. 
    Cool I just don’t agree with because one person did the worst job, everyone else shouldn’t get mentioned. 

    We lost 30k people here in NY. 30k! Yet everyone loves Cuomo. We did a great job getting past it because everyone here was scared shit! Plus it was winter which makes it easier to stay in. I doubt we wouldn’t be in the same boat as Cali, Florida if the height of the curve happened here in better weather. We were told to wear face coverings WAY TOO LATE. I know the reasoning was for saving masks for first responders but cmon. Everyone has a scarf or something to use as a face covering. I just don’t understand the harm in calling out people who aren’t named Trump. We all know he’s failing. 
  • Merkin Baller
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Fauci is now suggesting that eye protection can help against the virus. Makes sense. Whatever germs you can get in your mouth or nose, you can get in your eyes. But it took him four months into the pandemic to realize this and offer it?


    While everyone is solely focused on trump, leaders and experts from all over the world have failed us. This is literally they’re job. 


    Are there any other global leaders and experts who undermined their country's response to this pandemic the way Trump & the GOP have here in the states? 

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