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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    bbiggs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    FTR, I'm not taking shots at you.  I didn't read any of those posts
    Not you, man. Good, hard discussions are all good and necessary here. Twisting someone’s words and telling them to fuck off is a different story. That poster knows what he/she was saying and to whom. The problem I have with it is that no one that those shots were aimed at is supporting careless behavior or dismissing the importance of protecting the elderly, despite the comments he/she made in the post. No sleep lost here...moving on. 
    I still can’t believe you risked your life for a thirty pack of naty ice.  
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    mcgruff10 said:
    bbiggs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    FTR, I'm not taking shots at you.  I didn't read any of those posts
    Not you, man. Good, hard discussions are all good and necessary here. Twisting someone’s words and telling them to fuck off is a different story. That poster knows what he/she was saying and to whom. The problem I have with it is that no one that those shots were aimed at is supporting careless behavior or dismissing the importance of protecting the elderly, despite the comments he/she made in the post. No sleep lost here...moving on. 
    I still can’t believe you risked your life for a thirty pack of naty ice.  
    What can I say...I really wanted an Icehouse.  Had to throw caution to the wind.  ;) 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    It’s not bad enough that shootings are through the roof here in NYC with no clear resolution from our gutless mayor, now Bus drivers are also facing increased violence from assholes who won’t put on masks while riding public transportation. What a shame. 

  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    The US is being exposed for all sorts of societal issues right now.
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    JW269453 said:
    tish said:
    The thing is, after you lose somebody, you want to know that you did your part and did everything you could to keep others safe. I'm glad my daughter's Grandpa kept to work and his 2 person bubble or I would be second guessing if sending a young one off to school played a part in his death.
    Sorry to hear of your stepfathers passing. Have the results come back from the second coronavirus test?
    Not yet, but an autopsy will be done. I will let you know. Thank you for your concern and to others for the kind words.


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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    tish said:
    JW269453 said:
    tish said:
    The thing is, after you lose somebody, you want to know that you did your part and did everything you could to keep others safe. I'm glad my daughter's Grandpa kept to work and his 2 person bubble or I would be second guessing if sending a young one off to school played a part in his death.
    Sorry to hear of your stepfathers passing. Have the results come back from the second coronavirus test?
    Not yet, but an autopsy will be done. I will let you know. Thank you for your concern and to others for the kind words.



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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited July 2020
    bbiggs said:
    hedonist said:
    It's a really stupid discussion, sorry. Why are we going back in time and proposing a hypothetical situation (an insanely unreasonable one at that) as though it matters right now?

    I do not disagree that the American people are to blame at this point. It became very clear to me from the beginning that we were all going to have to fend for ourselves because our entire government apparatus, from the federal to the local level, is completely unequipped to deal with a national emergency. Now that our leaders have decided to open bars, restaurants, gyms, etc -- it is even more important that I double down on my efforts to keep my mother alive.  A big F-OFF to all of you who think it's acceptable to let old people die, or spend their last years in isolation, while all the rest of you go out and pick up your beer at the local bar or take a trip to the shore or send your kids to a school that will not put a single CDC recommendation in place. I will watch the horror show you create from my couch. Yes, it is on the American people. It is on you.
    Amen to the bolded part.  Unfortunately - or not, ha! - I'm in the US but keeping away from the fucking idiots.

    And there are a slew of them.
    It is not amen to the bolded part. Those comments were direct shots at myself and others here based on posts we made in recent days. On Friday I posted how pissed I was that I walked in to buy beer WITH A MASK and had to encounter a packed room of people without masks.  Myself and others have stated we are comfortable having our kids in the classroom WITH PROPER PRECAUTIONS.  Another person vacationed at the shore WHILE TAKING PRECAUTIONS. These were all posted within the last week, so they are fresh. These were direct and specific shots at those of us that posted and we were told to fuck off.  It’s unacceptable. 
    I'm not involved in that; I just can't believe how many people believe their wants are more important than collective health needs.

    As to the reference about the number of people who've died from this, I was reminded of this line from an excellent HBO film, "And The Band Played On".

    Blood Bank Executive: Is the CDC seriously suggesting that the blood industry spends $100M a year to use the test for the wrong disease because we have a handful of transfusion fatalities and eight dead hemophiliacs?
    Dr. Don Francis: How many dead hemophiliacs do you need? How many people have to die to make it cost efficient for you people to do something about it? A hundred? A thousand? Give us a number so we won't annoy you again until the amount of money you begin spending on lawsuits make it more profitable for you to save people than to kill them.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    bbiggs said:
    hedonist said:
    It's a really stupid discussion, sorry. Why are we going back in time and proposing a hypothetical situation (an insanely unreasonable one at that) as though it matters right now?

    I do not disagree that the American people are to blame at this point. It became very clear to me from the beginning that we were all going to have to fend for ourselves because our entire government apparatus, from the federal to the local level, is completely unequipped to deal with a national emergency. Now that our leaders have decided to open bars, restaurants, gyms, etc -- it is even more important that I double down on my efforts to keep my mother alive.  A big F-OFF to all of you who think it's acceptable to let old people die, or spend their last years in isolation, while all the rest of you go out and pick up your beer at the local bar or take a trip to the shore or send your kids to a school that will not put a single CDC recommendation in place. I will watch the horror show you create from my couch. Yes, it is on the American people. It is on you.
    Amen to the bolded part.  Unfortunately - or not, ha! - I'm in the US but keeping away from the fucking idiots.

    And there are a slew of them.
    It is not amen to the bolded part. Those comments were direct shots at myself and others here based on posts we made in recent days. On Friday I posted how pissed I was that I walked in to buy beer WITH A MASK and had to encounter a packed room of people without masks.  Myself and others have stated we are comfortable having our kids in the classroom WITH PROPER PRECAUTIONS.  Another person vacationed at the shore WHILE TAKING PRECAUTIONS. These were all posted within the last week, so they are fresh. These were direct and specific shots at those of us that posted and we were told to fuck off.  It’s unacceptable. 
    No shit. I’m fucking tired of the all or none bullshit.

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    And for what it's worth - since I see some tempers beginning to flare! - I'm not talking about common sense use or non-use of masks.  I'm talking about the goddamn nimrods who refuse to wear them around others, who declare those wearing them aren't welcome at certain places of business, who harass others for wearing them, who minimize the severity of this whole clusterfuck,

    And on.

    That's what I'm amen-ing about.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    The virus demands sacrifices.  Some don't make any, some make some, some make many
    Some don't care who may be sacrificial offerings.

    Expect that to be a heated topic of debate.
    It all depends on how people feel about this themselves.
    (And I do think non maskers are non thinkers....but that is my opinion, not a fact.)
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,336
    Not to mention that Fauci was taken out of context in an effort to discredit him. At the time he made the comment that masks wouldn’t be effective, there were 5 known cases in the US. He then follows that statement with words to the effect that if the number of cases increase, wearing masks would be part of an effective strategy to contain the spread. 

    It’s amazing how effective misinformation campaigns can be. 
    He said in the middle, not just at the beginning. 

    There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”

    What stage of the outbreak would you say we are in now? Even though I choose to wear a mask this doesn’t make me feel as warm and fuzzy as you, and a single drop is not the protection that is currently being sold. To the second part of his comment, I don’t know about you but all I see is people messing with their masks. Maybe it is time to update their stance again with a campaign saying to wear a mask and whatever you do don’t fiddle with it. I don’t hear much about that, or am I taking that out of context? Makes me wonder how many people have contracted the virus by thinking they were doing the right thing, but weren’t doing it properly. He said often when talking about consequences so that would lead me to believe quite a few.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,419
    What the fu$k is wrong with people?
    Wear a g-damn mask you pu$$ies

    MASK IT OR CASKET

  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    nicknyr15 said:
    It's amazing how unwilling we are to be inconvenienced.  And how we melt down when asked to be.

    American exceptionalism.

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2020
    nicknyr15 said:
    R. Kelly approves 
    drip drip drip
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,781
    Americans aren’t welcome in the Bahamas. I expect a lot more headlines like this in the coming months.

  • bbiggs
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,198
    Americans aren’t welcome in the Bahamas. I expect a lot more headlines like this in the coming months.

    Or Canada or the EU. Not sure about the rest of the world but if you're them and doing everything you can to contain and mitigate Covid, why would you welcome Americans?
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  • g under p
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    Americans aren’t welcome in the Bahamas. I expect a lot more headlines like this in the coming months.

    Or Canada or the EU. Not sure about the rest of the world but if you're them and doing everything you can to contain and mitigate Covid, why would you welcome Americans?
    I don't blame ANY  of those Caribbean for closing there borders to Americans. I'm here in S. Florida I'd love to take a trip down to Jamaica just to get away from the craziness that's happening here. That country of approximately 3 million people took severe actions to squelch the virus to the point where you can the number of deaths on one's hands 10.

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  • josevolution
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    g under p said:
    Americans aren’t welcome in the Bahamas. I expect a lot more headlines like this in the coming months.

    Or Canada or the EU. Not sure about the rest of the world but if you're them and doing everything you can to contain and mitigate Covid, why would you welcome Americans?
    I don't blame ANY  of those Caribbean for closing there borders to Americans. I'm here in S. Florida I'd love to take a trip down to Jamaica just to get away from the craziness that's happening here. That country of approximately 3 million people took severe actions to squelch the virus to the point where you can the number of deaths on one's hands 10.

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    Agreed we are the idiots of the world and I don’t blame any country for taking this stance!
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