The coronavirus

Bentleyspop

bbiggs said:

I’m not on FB, but a friend sent me this.  I appreciate this man’s service, but that aside, this behavior is so fucking ignorant.  This “I am lion, hear me roar” bullshit is going to cause some real ugly scenes in stores at some point.  Somehow no mask = tough guy all of a sudden.  Please.  I’m going to have to keep my cool when ass holes like this walk around in stores with no masks. It’s going to be tough. Outdoors is a different story. Inside, be a decent fucking person and put the mask on FFS. 

Bet you a million rubles they are both forced birthers

brianlux

Mind blowing how stupid so many people are. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmMvVpyDvdI

bbiggs

Whoa. Is that by you? 

brianlux

bbiggs said:

Whoa. Is that by you? 

No, surprisingly it is Trinity Bellwoods Park in Toronto.  For some reason, I always assume Canadians are smarter than that.  But they're people.  What was I thinking?! LOL

kce8

People should watch that video esp. the last 2 minutes. I guess people are acting like that everywhere in the world now. 

Looks like after all these weeks of taking care we still don't care enough and rather being selfish when we get the chance. 

GlowGirl

g under p said:

Alright, so had anybody here had a CV19 test?

Holy crap I thought the woman was trying to massage my brain for 20 seconds. Then in midst of it she asks me, are you a Red Sox fan? I'm like you REALLY want me to answer that while you're raping my nostrils.

I'm glad that's over with, now I wait 3-6 days for the results.

Peace

I just had the antibody test on Friday and got my results today. I was positive for antibodies. I had some mild symptoms in mid March - loss of smell, pain in my back, and fatigue. Lasted about 5 days. If we hadn't had this virus, I would have just thought I was a bit under the weather. I even went to the doctors at the time for my back pain, but they didn't test me for COVID. So when the antibody test became available in NYC, I decided to take it. I guess I had it and recovered. Luckily, I have been diligent about social distancing, wearing a mask, etc. I will continue to do so until they know more about what having antibodies mean. But I am looking into donating plasma. It is weird to think I had it a few months ago and didn't know it all this time. 

brianlux

kce8 said:

People should watch that video esp. the last 2 minutes. I guess people are acting like that everywhere in the world now. 

Looks like after all these weeks of taking care we still don't care enough and rather being selfish when we get the chance. 

Yes!  From 3:40 to on you can really hear the pain in the doctor's voice, the pain of seeing images of people carelessly gathering, careless risking the next wave of sickness and death.  And it's not just a few people.  It's a whole crowd!  Selfish it is, kce, selfish, careless and foolish.

pjl44

Pretty good news in this study. Some parallels to a Korean study I'll post below it. Seems even dead, non-infectious virus can throw a positive test. A variety of implications there.

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556?s=19

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/05/22/861061727/south-korean-study-shows-no-evidence-recovered-covid-patients-can-infect-others

Zod

Halifax2TheMax said:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-china-travel-ban-45a2da12-8063-4ad9-ba28-61cdeb1ce0b3.html

40,000 people entered the US from China AFTER Team Trump Treason's China travel ban. After February 2nd, when he announced it and more than likely knew or should have known about the virus as early as late November/December. "It'll soon be zero." "Its like the flu." "Like a miracle, it'll be gone by April."

To be fair, it also feels like China was downplaying the virus a bit.  As a result it doesn't feel like anyone from government, large corporations, to regular people, started to take it seriously until sometime in February, where everyone realized it might be a little worse then China was leading us to believe.

I really do hope, that we learning from this.  If a country has an outbreak of a nasty virus it should get locked down right away, with international travel banned.   We let the damn thing spread.  Not all China's fault either.  Even when we knew it was out there, here in Canada, be barely did any airport screening, letting people come back no problems.

Halifax2TheMax

Zod said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-china-travel-ban-45a2da12-8063-4ad9-ba28-61cdeb1ce0b3.html

40,000 people entered the US from China AFTER Team Trump Treason's China travel ban. After February 2nd, when he announced it and more than likely knew or should have known about the virus as early as late November/December. "It'll soon be zero." "Its like the flu." "Like a miracle, it'll be gone by April."

To be fair, it also feels like China was downplaying the virus a bit.  As a result it doesn't feel like anyone from government, large corporations, to regular people, started to take it seriously until sometime in February, where everyone realized it might be a little worse then China was leading us to believe.

I really do hope, that we learning from this.  If a country has an outbreak of a nasty virus it should get locked down right away, with international travel banned.   We let the damn thing spread.  Not all China's fault either.  Even when we knew it was out there, here in Canada, be barely did any airport screening, letting people come back no problems.

US intelligence agencies were taking it seriously and trying to get Team Trump Treason’s attention but you know, twitter.

brianlux

Freedumb:

https://news.yahoo.com/large-crowds-gather-memorial-day-224756766.html

mickeyrat

JW269453 said:

static111 said:

JW269453 said:

Smellyman said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1263957793293336579?s=21
Then there’s this creep vile human it’s not the Baffoon but close 

Sometimes I wonder why I live in Texas....

a sh!thole state

An extremely shallow comment. Let me guess, you probably think we all wear cowboy boots and ride horses too? 

Howdy fellow Texan.  It is clear that there are a lot of people that haven’t seen or refuse to see some of the great things our state has to offer.

It is unique and probably has a place for just about anyone to fit in. I’ve always felt Hollywood’s portrayal of Texans is laughable and one of the main reasons people perceive us the way they do.

brianlux said:

JW269453 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

Smellyman said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1263957793293336579?s=21
Then there’s this creep vile human it’s not the Baffoon but close 

Sometimes I wonder why I live in Texas....

a sh!thole state

An extremely shallow comment. Let me guess, you probably think we all wear cowboy boots and ride horses too? 

Nah. Y’all just vote for the grabber in chief.

47.77% of the people who voted would beg to differ. In a state with 29 million people, trump received 4,685,047 votes (16%). New York by comparison has 19.5 million people and trump received 2,819,534 votes (14.5%). It’s cool though, I understand some people just can’t help but stereotype. By your logic, trump is a New Yorker so therefore you are a trump. Is that how this works?

I've never been to Texas (other than changing planes in Dallas), but I know at least one good thing about your state:

I hear Austin is pretty too, city wise, and I'd love to see Big Bend.

But y'all have some major shit to deal with there too.  All states do, of course, but maybe TX has more than it's fare share.

Gotta love Willie! The Red Headed Stranger album is almost like a lullaby for me.

mrussel1 said:

One of my favorite steakhouses in the country is in Austin.  Also cool to see the joints that SRV frequented.  

The thing that strikes me about Texas though is the concrete.  Dallas and Houston just seem like a web of interchanges. 

I’ve driven to Dallas probably 100 times, I am not a fan of navigating through that chaos.

having driven  a semi in both cities, frankly I am surprised I didnt see more wrecked vehicles. very aggressive drivers.

what dreams

Bentleyspop said:

bbiggs said:

I’m not on FB, but a friend sent me this.  I appreciate this man’s service, but that aside, this behavior is so fucking ignorant.  This “I am lion, hear me roar” bullshit is going to cause some real ugly scenes in stores at some point.  Somehow no mask = tough guy all of a sudden.  Please.  I’m going to have to keep my cool when ass holes like this walk around in stores with no masks. It’s going to be tough. Outdoors is a different story. Inside, be a decent fucking person and put the mask on FFS. 

Bet you a million rubles they are both forced birthers

I bet you a million rubles they are bots

static111

mickeyrat said:

JW269453 said:

static111 said:

JW269453 said:

Smellyman said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1263957793293336579?s=21
Then there’s this creep vile human it’s not the Baffoon but close 

Sometimes I wonder why I live in Texas....

a sh!thole state

An extremely shallow comment. Let me guess, you probably think we all wear cowboy boots and ride horses too? 

Howdy fellow Texan.  It is clear that there are a lot of people that haven’t seen or refuse to see some of the great things our state has to offer.

It is unique and probably has a place for just about anyone to fit in. I’ve always felt Hollywood’s portrayal of Texans is laughable and one of the main reasons people perceive us the way they do.

brianlux said:

JW269453 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

Smellyman said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1263957793293336579?s=21
Then there’s this creep vile human it’s not the Baffoon but close 

Sometimes I wonder why I live in Texas....

a sh!thole state

An extremely shallow comment. Let me guess, you probably think we all wear cowboy boots and ride horses too? 

Nah. Y’all just vote for the grabber in chief.

47.77% of the people who voted would beg to differ. In a state with 29 million people, trump received 4,685,047 votes (16%). New York by comparison has 19.5 million people and trump received 2,819,534 votes (14.5%). It’s cool though, I understand some people just can’t help but stereotype. By your logic, trump is a New Yorker so therefore you are a trump. Is that how this works?

I've never been to Texas (other than changing planes in Dallas), but I know at least one good thing about your state:

I hear Austin is pretty too, city wise, and I'd love to see Big Bend.

But y'all have some major shit to deal with there too.  All states do, of course, but maybe TX has more than it's fare share.

Gotta love Willie! The Red Headed Stranger album is almost like a lullaby for me.

mrussel1 said:

One of my favorite steakhouses in the country is in Austin.  Also cool to see the joints that SRV frequented.  

The thing that strikes me about Texas though is the concrete.  Dallas and Houston just seem like a web of interchanges. 

I’ve driven to Dallas probably 100 times, I am not a fan of navigating through that chaos.

having driven  a semi in both cities, frankly I am surprised I didnt see more wrecked vehicles. very aggressive drivers.

https://youtu.be/6Y5uAjWWQRg  

xavier mcdaniel

this whole thing is heartbreaking but this article really falls into that description:  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/24/us/they-survived-the-worst-battles-of-world-war-ii-and-died-of-the-virus.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

Bentleyspop

what dreams said:

Bentleyspop said:

bbiggs said:

I’m not on FB, but a friend sent me this.  I appreciate this man’s service, but that aside, this behavior is so fucking ignorant.  This “I am lion, hear me roar” bullshit is going to cause some real ugly scenes in stores at some point.  Somehow no mask = tough guy all of a sudden.  Please.  I’m going to have to keep my cool when ass holes like this walk around in stores with no masks. It’s going to be tough. Outdoors is a different story. Inside, be a decent fucking person and put the mask on FFS. 

Bet you a million rubles they are both forced birthers

I bet you a million rubles they are bots

Russian bots

EdsonNascimento

Do you guys believe reports that 35% or more of cases were asymptomatic and undetected?

pjl44

EdsonNascimento said:

Do you guys believe reports that 35% or more of cases were asymptomatic and undetected?

That sounds high. Do you have a link?

mickeyrat

could go in several threads I guess  but here it is. thoughtful read....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/25/why-military-style-gear-protests-rings-hollow/

Why military-style gear at protests rings hollow
By Drew Garza
May 25 at 10:47 AM ET
Drew Garza served in the U.S. Army from 2005 to 2015. He is a Tillman scholar at George Washington University.

I took comfort in my Army uniform. Not a physical comfort, because that certainly was never synonymous with Army-issue items, but a comfort of familiarity. I suffered in that gear, and it became a part of me. Some veterans can’t wait to take off their uniform, but I didn’t want to live without mine.

I left the military in 2015 after 10 years of service that included three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and about a dozen other deployments around the world. Initially, I was drawn to tactical clothing: military-style cargo pants, some variety of combat boot. I carried my multitool and other useful items, just like I did when I served. None of this was an attempt to convey authority or strength. It was a way to replicate the comfort of my uniform. As I transitioned to civilian life — and a difficult transition it was — wearing those clothes helped.

But slowly I moved away from that practice. I lost that comfort as I noticed the rise of “the Uniform.”

“The Uniform” is my term for the look some protesters have adopted in recent years. It is not a specific military uniform but often a mix of non-government-issue, third-party combat gear. There are usually lots of accessories and pouches; patches of varying political rancor; and flags that are rarely red, white and blue. Sometimes these outfits display a blood type, a practice meant to save lives in combat. Usually the clothes are clean, with no visible wear. Sometimes there are tactical masks or fabrics meant to evoke traditional Middle Eastern garb. And a rifle, often also heavily accessorized.

To my eye, the overall look is a caricature of a Special Operations warfighter, like those in video games.

The Uniform has become a fixture in political storms and crises. People in these outfits show up to political events, where they scream and scowl. They demand freedom as they wield assault rifles. They reject criticism as un-American. Some carry flags that are un-American. In a country where minorities are killed for mistaken perceptions, they protest in a protective ether of unrecognized privilege. They have adopted the Uniform to show a willingness to use force to protect their way of life. Thankfully, this interpretation of the appearance of strength is generally as far as things go.

At first, my discomfort with wearing tactical gear was rooted in not wanting to be associated with a particular political stance. I worried less that the look was being appropriated than I did about not wanting to explain my position to anyone either way. As many veterans can attest, the effort to do so can be exhausting and traumatic.

Now, however, I feel a different discomfort when I see the Uniform. Those wearing it are attempting to make their appearance speak for them, sometimes without the service that normally gives power to that voice. Over our nation’s history, the sacrifice and commitment of military service have made it a source of integrity and wisdom. It is meaningful when someone in uniform speaks because the uniform is also speaking. The power of that voice is such that political activities of military members in uniform are restricted. The fiber and brass of military uniforms announce the service of those wearing it; they suggest valuable insight and perspective.

Veterans know brothers and sisters who died in uniform. Tattered camouflage was often still wrapped around detached limbs. Millions of goodbyes have been said in uniform, and the uniform was the last thing that far too many family members touched. Millions of Americans have stood in uniform and watched innocent people suffer. Sometimes we could help; sometimes we were helpless. Some of us wore the same gear for weeks straight with no showers or laundry. We know the permanent coloring inflicted by months of billowing dust and sand. Uniforms get dirty — covered in hydraulic oil, mud, blood. Still, we wear them as we serve.

The military uniform has always shrouded pain. Veterans know this, and our uniforms speak because of it.

Military veterans, of course, are not gatekeepers of suffering. Many across our country are struggling. People are sick. Income inequality is rampant. Skin color and class trigger bias and discrimination. These conditions are not new, but the pandemic has exasperated them.

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Citizens have every right to be angry at government responses that are unclear, insufficient or unwarranted. Citizens have every right to protest — to speak from their personal pain.

They don’t need gear to speak for them.

I don’t pretend to know what suffering others have experienced. When I see the Uniform engaged in protest, I understand that it is intended to convey a message. But this appearance, reappropriated in anger, rings hollow.

Lerxst1992

Zod said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-china-travel-ban-45a2da12-8063-4ad9-ba28-61cdeb1ce0b3.html

40,000 people entered the US from China AFTER Team Trump Treason's China travel ban. After February 2nd, when he announced it and more than likely knew or should have known about the virus as early as late November/December. "It'll soon be zero." "Its like the flu." "Like a miracle, it'll be gone by April."

To be fair, it also feels like China was downplaying the virus a bit.  As a result it doesn't feel like anyone from government, large corporations, to regular people, started to take it seriously until sometime in February, where everyone realized it might be a little worse then China was leading us to believe.

I really do hope, that we learning from this.  If a country has an outbreak of a nasty virus it should get locked down right away, with international travel banned.   We let the damn thing spread.  Not all China's fault either.  Even when we knew it was out there, here in Canada, be barely did any airport screening, letting people come back no problems.

Trump was tremendously insightful banning travel from China.

Problem is most of the US infection was from NY, which arrived via Italy. Travel from Italy was ongoing for a full 43 days after the China ban.

oopsie.


https://youtu.be/2Bk9TOjrCLI