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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Walked into GNC store this morning wearing my mask the owner comes out from back no mask! I didn’t say anything just paid walked out..
    That’s really the best course of action unless you want to get in a screaming match and have them tell you about being triggered or something.  

    I’m really worried about the next pandemic, especially if it is worse.  Imagine if this was the plague etc. After this precedence has been set what happens going forward?  Even if joe is elected and reestablishes pandemic preparedness I’m not sure we will even be able to rely on each other let alone the state and local governments and the financial sectors.

    Just imagine if they don’t come up with an effective vaccine.  Tiptoe through the decline
    Agreed.  Trump has corrupted and polluted the minds of 35% of Americans.  I don't know how you come back from that. 
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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Walked into GNC store this morning wearing my mask the owner comes out from back no mask! I didn’t say anything just paid walked out..
    That’s really the best course of action unless you want to get in a screaming match and have them tell you about being triggered or something.  

    I’m really worried about the next pandemic, especially if it is worse.  Imagine if this was the plague etc. After this precedence has been set what happens going forward?  Even if joe is elected and reestablishes pandemic preparedness I’m not sure we will even be able to rely on each other let alone the state and local governments and the financial sectors.

    Just imagine if they don’t come up with an effective vaccine.  Tiptoe through the decline
    Agreed.  Trump has corrupted and polluted the minds of 35% of Americans.  I don't know how you come back from that. 

    I don't know how it is that so many millions of people can be so easily persuaded by an evil man to support him, or stupid enough to think what he does is in their best interest.  Knowing there are that many of those people out there is very disturbing.
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    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Walked into GNC store this morning wearing my mask the owner comes out from back no mask! I didn’t say anything just paid walked out..
    That’s really the best course of action unless you want to get in a screaming match and have them tell you about being triggered or something.  

    I’m really worried about the next pandemic, especially if it is worse.  Imagine if this was the plague etc. After this precedence has been set what happens going forward?  Even if joe is elected and reestablishes pandemic preparedness I’m not sure we will even be able to rely on each other let alone the state and local governments and the financial sectors.

    Just imagine if they don’t come up with an effective vaccine.  Tiptoe through the decline
    Agreed.  Trump has corrupted and polluted the minds of 35% of Americans.  I don't know how you come back from that. 

    I don't know how it is that so many millions of people can be so easily persuaded by an evil man to support him, or stupid enough to think what he does is in their best interest.  Knowing there are that many of those people out there is very disturbing.
    Totally agree I feel like I’m living in a twilight zone episode like swimming against the tide, screw them though I’m going to keep wearing a mask and will avoid any gatherings period
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    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Walked into GNC store this morning wearing my mask the owner comes out from back no mask! I didn’t say anything just paid walked out..
    That’s really the best course of action unless you want to get in a screaming match and have them tell you about being triggered or something.  

    I’m really worried about the next pandemic, especially if it is worse.  Imagine if this was the plague etc. After this precedence has been set what happens going forward?  Even if joe is elected and reestablishes pandemic preparedness I’m not sure we will even be able to rely on each other let alone the state and local governments and the financial sectors.

    Just imagine if they don’t come up with an effective vaccine.  Tiptoe through the decline
    Agreed.  Trump has corrupted and polluted the minds of 35% of Americans.  I don't know how you come back from that. 

    I don't know how it is that so many millions of people can be so easily persuaded by an evil man to support him, or stupid enough to think what he does is in their best interest.  Knowing there are that many of those people out there is very disturbing.
    Totally agree I feel like I’m living in a twilight zone episode like swimming against the tide, screw them though I’m going to keep wearing a mask and will avoid any gatherings period
    Same here 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Walked into GNC store this morning wearing my mask the owner comes out from back no mask! I didn’t say anything just paid walked out..
    That’s really the best course of action unless you want to get in a screaming match and have them tell you about being triggered or something.  

    I’m really worried about the next pandemic, especially if it is worse.  Imagine if this was the plague etc. After this precedence has been set what happens going forward?  Even if joe is elected and reestablishes pandemic preparedness I’m not sure we will even be able to rely on each other let alone the state and local governments and the financial sectors.

    Just imagine if they don’t come up with an effective vaccine.  Tiptoe through the decline
    Agreed.  Trump has corrupted and polluted the minds of 35% of Americans.  I don't know how you come back from that. 

    I don't know how it is that so many millions of people can be so easily persuaded by an evil man to support him, or stupid enough to think what he does is in their best interest.  Knowing there are that many of those people out there is very disturbing.
    It seems funny to call it a cult. But it has many properties of that. I really believe a lot of people have long forgotten whatever principles they had that got them to voting (in most cases) republican in the first place. Some of those things may have even made sense (even though I did not share the opinions/philosophies). Now, though?  It's so much about Trump.  They don't even seem to care about the impacts on themselves, much less other people or the country as a whole.  They care about Trump.  Well, they also care about owning the libs. The balance between how much they care about the cult's leader vs. owning the libs might be an important one. Ironically, their dedication to Trump might have a silver lining in that one way or the other, he's going to be gone in the near future. Maybe after the cult leader is gone, there's a path back to normal?  However, if owning the libs the more important thing, then I question whether we'll ever get back to normal. Right wing news loves to own the libs.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,486
    edited September 2020
    So is Sweden the only (western) country that doesn't have and never have had a forced (or even sternly recommended) facemask usage?


    Open your borders to American and Indian tourists, then we’ll talk.
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    limit of 50 people stays in Sweden. 

    Exceptions allowed for restaurants. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    From the Team Trump Treason propaganda email blast. However, I would ask, to what end? And, does their editor or proofreader know how to add? I guess the missing 6 million go to the Team Trump Treason organization or they "fell off the truck?" So, test kits get distributed, can test results be provided within the time frames required? Then what? to what end?

    Trump Announces Distribution of 150m Rapid Coronavirus Tests

    “President Trump announced on Monday that his administration will distribute 150 million Abbott coronavirus tests that produce results in just 15 minutes,” Cassidy Morrison writes for the Washington Examiner.
     
    Trump said that 50 million tests would go to the most vulnerable communities: 18 million to nursing homes, 15 million to assisted living facilities, 10 million for hospice care providers, and nearly 1 million to historically black colleges and universities and colleges in tribal nations. Another 100 million tests will be allocated to states and territories to support efforts to reopen their economies and schools.”
     
    Click here to read more. 

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    limit of 50 people stays in Sweden. 

    Exceptions allowed for restaurants. 
    Because science says restaurants are lower risk then other venues?
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,486
    edited September 2020
    limit of 50 people stays in Sweden. 

    Exceptions allowed for restaurants. 
    Because science says restaurants are lower risk then other venues?
    "This means that restaurants can have entertainment in the form of, for example, musicians performing even if there are more than 50 guests in the restaurant."

    Restaurants are removed from the public gathering rule, and goes by rules of separating/spreading out tables, not being allowed to order by the bar, everyone having to sit down and be served by the table etc.

    And yes, I have a table booked for an Indian restaurant in Stockholm on Friday that is suppose to have great vegan food. I'm eyeing the vegan palak paneer. 
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,942
    Bon Appetit, mon ami! It sounds like you are less worried of your travels to the bigger city, which I'm glad to hear.
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    tish said:
    Bon Appetit, mon ami! It sounds like you are less worried of your travels to the bigger city, which I'm glad to hear.
    Naw, I'm abit worried. And just read that numbers are raising in Sthlm. So hopefully I'm going just in time to avoid being there when it is really bad.

    And will avoid the subway/crowded places as good as I can.
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    Uptick has started to happen here in NY, ughh not good..
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
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    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    So the person who took precautions got it but the one who doesn’t care doesn’t damn! 
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    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    Hope your friend fully recovers. I keep hearing of lingering negative side effects.
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    Got a facemask on the train. 

    This is not the swedish way. 

    What is till. 

    I smell a coup. 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,925
    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    Hope your friend fully recovers. I keep hearing of lingering negative side effects.
    Nothing serious thankfully, my wife and I just got taste and smell back after almost 7 weeks. And it’s not even 100% still. 
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    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    Hope your friend fully recovers. I keep hearing of lingering negative side effects.
    Nothing serious thankfully, my wife and I just got taste and smell back after almost 7 weeks. And it’s not even 100% still. 

    Wow.  Eating food is one of the best parts of the day and to not enjoy that for 7 weeks sucks. 
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    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    Hope your friend fully recovers. I keep hearing of lingering negative side effects.
    Nothing serious thankfully, my wife and I just got taste and smell back after almost 7 weeks. And it’s not even 100% still. 
    Interesting...how did it effect you initially?  
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    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    Hope your friend fully recovers. I keep hearing of lingering negative side effects.
    Nothing serious thankfully, my wife and I just got taste and smell back after almost 7 weeks. And it’s not even 100% still. 
    Glad to hear you are coming out on the other side of it!
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    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    Hope your friend fully recovers. I keep hearing of lingering negative side effects.
    Nothing serious thankfully, my wife and I just got taste and smell back after almost 7 weeks. And it’s not even 100% still. 
    Wow. That is a long time. My sense of smell and taste was only gone for about 10 days before it started coming back. I think it was fully back within 2 weeks. I am glad you and your wife are doing better.

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    anybody watch the south park pandemic special last night?
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,131
    GlowGirl said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I've got a friend in the hospital right now (or at least as of a couple of days ago) getting oxygen.  He'd fit in well on this thread; knows the seriousness, masks, distancing, staying home, etc.  Meanhwhile one of our MAGA friends acts like nothing has changed (except when he's whining that he can't take his trip to Banff) and...nothing.  Covid 19 is random and has NO sense of poetic justice.
    Hope your friend fully recovers. I keep hearing of lingering negative side effects.
    Nothing serious thankfully, my wife and I just got taste and smell back after almost 7 weeks. And it’s not even 100% still. 
    Wow. That is a long time. My sense of smell and taste was only gone for about 10 days before it started coming back. I think it was fully back within 2 weeks. I am glad you and your wife are doing better.

    So what were your initial symptoms?  


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    Thanks everyone! Yes it’s a “minor” thing but it sucks! Even worse, somethings taste weird or off when your taste starts to come back. My wife still can’t enjoy coffee and we’re big coffee drinkers. 
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Thanks everyone! Yes it’s a “minor” thing but it sucks! Even worse, somethings taste weird or off when your taste starts to come back. My wife still can’t enjoy coffee and we’re big coffee drinkers. 
    My dad died of pancreatic cancer and while his quality of life was diminishing in so many ways, he pointed out that you just don't realize how much the taste of food matters until you cannot taste it.

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    OnWis97 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Thanks everyone! Yes it’s a “minor” thing but it sucks! Even worse, somethings taste weird or off when your taste starts to come back. My wife still can’t enjoy coffee and we’re big coffee drinkers. 
    My dad died of pancreatic cancer and while his quality of life was diminishing in so many ways, he pointed out that you just don't realize how much the taste of food matters until you cannot taste it.

    100%. I hate complaining about that symptom because compared to severe cases I may come off bad. But it SUCKS not tasting food. I started to get nervous because it lasted so long. Luckily it’s coming back. 
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    I used to work with a man who permanently lost his sense of taste during and after cancer. The guy adored food too, shared some exquisite meals with him. 

    I can’t imagine that, nor not being able to smell. The olfactory sense is so powerful.  
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Thanks everyone! Yes it’s a “minor” thing but it sucks! Even worse, somethings taste weird or off when your taste starts to come back. My wife still can’t enjoy coffee and we’re big coffee drinkers. 
    My dad died of pancreatic cancer and while his quality of life was diminishing in so many ways, he pointed out that you just don't realize how much the taste of food matters until you cannot taste it.

    100%. I hate complaining about that symptom because compared to severe cases I may come off bad. But it SUCKS not tasting food. I started to get nervous because it lasted so long. Luckily it’s coming back. 
    I’ve learned - well, still learning - that you can’t compare. Your pain or suffering is your own.

    Glad to know you got through the worst of it, nick. 
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