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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,003
    edited April 2020
    Jesus, what a bunch of dumbasses. Notice no Tucker Carlson in the video though. Despite his faults, he's the only Fox News host to take the virus seriously from the beginning. Yeah, he calls it the Chinese Virus. And no, he doesn't directly criticize Trump by name. Rather, he uses code words to criticize Trump by substituting his name with "the federal government" or "our elected leaders." But he's been talking about the virus as a serious threat since January. I hope his other viewers took note, rather than allow themselves to be brainwashed by Hannity. 

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    edited April 2020
    tish said:
    Pictures of the streets getting disinfected makes me wonder how easily this disease is transmitted from the street to our shoes to our homes and bodies.

    Thoughts?


    "The most idiotic thing is the images from Asia where they drive around with tanker trucks spewing out disinfection on the streets. It's completely pointless. It's just to show people that politicians are doing something. Nothing else."

    – Johan Giesecke


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    tish said:
    Pictures of the streets getting disinfected makes me wonder how easily this disease is transmitted from the street to our shoes to our homes and bodies.

    Thoughts?
    If I had to guess, I would say this is being done to help calm people down more than to fight the virus.  My other guess is that disinfecting large areas such as streets is environmentally harmful.

    Now, after making those comments, I did a little research and found this, which seems to support my suppositions:


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    edited April 2020
    brianlux said:
    tish said:
    Pictures of the streets getting disinfected makes me wonder how easily this disease is transmitted from the street to our shoes to our homes and bodies.

    Thoughts?
    If I had to guess, I would say this is being done to help calm people down more than to fight the virus.  My other guess is that disinfecting large areas such as streets is environmentally harmful.

    Now, after making those comments, I did a little research and found this, which seems to support my suppositions:


    I thoughts i read that the virus can attach to your shoes for a couple of days. So to me it makes sense why they would spray these areas.  
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    tish said:
    Pictures of the streets getting disinfected makes me wonder how easily this disease is transmitted from the street to our shoes to our homes and bodies.

    Thoughts?


    "The most idiotic thing is the images from Asia where they drive around with tanker trucks spewing out disinfection on the streets. It's completely pointless. It's just to show people that politicians are doing something. Nothing else."

    – Johan Giesecke



    I don't have scientific evidence to back this up, but I would tend to agree with Giesecke on this one.  Based on what I've read, I find it hard to believe that there is a high level of viral transmission from a porous surface like concrete or asphalt.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Ontario plans to test 13000 people/day.  The Premier wants all health care workers tested.  
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    just found out that 2 guys i played high school football with have covid. both are hospitalized, one is on a ventillator. another friend lost his mom in michigan 2 days ago. 

    i think every one of us are going to know multiple people directly impacted by this bug. it is so sad.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    just found out that 2 guys i played high school football with have covid. both are hospitalized, one is on a ventillator. another friend lost his mom in michigan 2 days ago. 

    i think every one of us are going to know multiple people directly impacted by this bug. it is so sad.

    We learned that our vice mayor (I didn't know there was such a thing until now) who my wife has known through her business for many years, now has the virus.  We are told California will not peak until mid to late May, so I'm sure more people we know will have it.  Scares the shit out of me because... well, you know...
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    The environmental upside to this pandemic:


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    just found out that 2 guys i played high school football with have covid. both are hospitalized, one is on a ventillator. another friend lost his mom in michigan 2 days ago. 

    i think every one of us are going to know multiple people directly impacted by this bug. it is so sad.

    We learned that our vice mayor (I didn't know there was such a thing until now) who my wife has known through her business for many years, now has the virus.  We are told California will not peak until mid to late May, so I'm sure more people we know will have it.  Scares the shit out of me because... well, you know...
    sorry to hear about your wife's friend.

    hopefully you are all staying save out your way.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    just found out that 2 guys i played high school football with have covid. both are hospitalized, one is on a ventillator. another friend lost his mom in michigan 2 days ago. 

    i think every one of us are going to know multiple people directly impacted by this bug. it is so sad.

    We learned that our vice mayor (I didn't know there was such a thing until now) who my wife has known through her business for many years, now has the virus.  We are told California will not peak until mid to late May, so I'm sure more people we know will have it.  Scares the shit out of me because... well, you know...
    sorry to hear about your wife's friend.

    hopefully you are all staying save out your way.

    So far, so good, my friend.  And my best to your friends.  I hope they pull through OK.  And I'm very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend's mom.  Very sad news.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    just found out that 2 guys i played high school football with have covid. both are hospitalized, one is on a ventillator. another friend lost his mom in michigan 2 days ago. 

    i think every one of us are going to know multiple people directly impacted by this bug. it is so sad.

    We learned that our vice mayor (I didn't know there was such a thing until now) who my wife has known through her business for many years, now has the virus.  We are told California will not peak until mid to late May, so I'm sure more people we know will have it.  Scares the shit out of me because... well, you know...
    sorry to hear about your wife's friend.

    hopefully you are all staying save out your way.

    So far, so good, my friend.  And my best to your friends.  I hope they pull through OK.  And I'm very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend's mom.  Very sad news.
    thanks man.

    what i have noticed about a lot of people my age, our parents, born in the late 40s or early 50s, are having a hard time grasping the seriousness of the situation. they do not seem to grasp how important it is to stay home or social distance. my folks have been retired 10-15 years and are used to doing whatever they want whenever they want. the other day i had to tell them to stay the hell at home and that this is one of the times where they do not know better than i do. i have been having that conversation with so many friends the last couple of weeks.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I'm having the opposite problem with my mom, born in '41. I can't get her to take a walk outside because she thinks she'll breathe the virus in the air. She hasn't had fresh air in over a month.  

    I am living with this terrible reality that as soon as the stay at home order lifts, and I am ordered back to work (at a germ infested school in August) that I'm going to be the reason my mom dies. My cousin and I just had the discussion that neither of us expect our parents to survive this before the vaccine comes out. Two years is a really long time for perfect hygiene measures to be successful. It's been really awful to think about 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    what dreams said:
    I'm having the opposite problem with my mom, born in '41. I can't get her to take a walk outside because she thinks she'll breathe the virus in the air. She hasn't had fresh air in over a month.  

    I am living with this terrible reality that as soon as the stay at home order lifts, and I am ordered back to work (at a germ infested school in August) that I'm going to be the reason my mom dies. My cousin and I just had the discussion that neither of us expect our parents to survive this before the vaccine comes out. Two years is a really long time for perfect hygiene measures to be successful. It's been really awful to think about 
    i would encourage you to keep up with the hygiene measures. if you do something for about 30 days it becomes a habit. 
    this covid thing may die out before the vaccine is ready, so there is that hope.
    i wish you and your mom continued good health. you all will get through this.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited April 2020

    I'm having the opposite problem with my mom, born in '41. I can't get her to take a walk outside because she thinks she'll breathe the virus in the air. She hasn't had fresh air in over a month.  

    I am living with this terrible reality that as soon as the stay at home order lifts, and I am ordered back to work (at a germ infested school in August) that I'm going to be the reason my mom dies. My cousin and I just had the discussion that neither of us expect our parents to survive this before the vaccine comes out. Two years is a really long time for perfect hygiene measures to be successful. It's been really awful to think about 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    edited April 2020
    Giesecke

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    News

    right now.

    Stay tuned for an update.


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what dreams said:
    I'm having the opposite problem with my mom, born in '41. I can't get her to take a walk outside because she thinks she'll breathe the virus in the air. She hasn't had fresh air in over a month.  

    I am living with this terrible reality that as soon as the stay at home order lifts, and I am ordered back to work (at a germ infested school in August) that I'm going to be the reason my mom dies. My cousin and I just had the discussion that neither of us expect our parents to survive this before the vaccine comes out. Two years is a really long time for perfect hygiene measures to be successful. It's been really awful to think about 
    i would encourage you to keep up with the hygiene measures. if you do something for about 30 days it becomes a habit. 
    this covid thing may die out before the vaccine is ready, so there is that hope.
    i wish you and your mom continued good health. you all will get through this.
    Thank you. I was an obsessive hand washer before CoVid. It was always the first thing I did when I got home from school or anywhere, so that habit is there.

    At school I kept as clean a room as I could but kids just don't know how to sneeze or cough in their sleeve, and I handle their papers all day long. It's going to be a challenge. 

    I will persevere. In the three years I've cared for, I've reversed her heart failure and poor kidney function with diet, I've kept her diabetes well under control. Until now I've always thought she would end up dying from complications from a fall. Now this. I'm just tired.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    edited April 2020

    *** GIESECKE UPDATE ***



    - We should have been through the apex in Stockholm already, numbers are gonna start to fall. But will rise up a bit more in the rest of the country. Could be that the numbers these last days are just a "statistically coincidence" but he doesn't think so.

    - Restrictions will be removed one by one. Not all at once. 

    - Between 30-80 % do not feel symptoms of the disease. But they are not as likely to infect others. Stay home when feeling symptoms is still the number 1 way to stop spread.

    - Hard to stop infection spreading at retirement homes. Experts in Sweden have been too optimistic about that it would not reach them.
     
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,090
    what dreams said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what dreams said:
    I'm having the opposite problem with my mom, born in '41. I can't get her to take a walk outside because she thinks she'll breathe the virus in the air. She hasn't had fresh air in over a month.  

    I am living with this terrible reality that as soon as the stay at home order lifts, and I am ordered back to work (at a germ infested school in August) that I'm going to be the reason my mom dies. My cousin and I just had the discussion that neither of us expect our parents to survive this before the vaccine comes out. Two years is a really long time for perfect hygiene measures to be successful. It's been really awful to think about 
    i would encourage you to keep up with the hygiene measures. if you do something for about 30 days it becomes a habit. 
    this covid thing may die out before the vaccine is ready, so there is that hope.
    i wish you and your mom continued good health. you all will get through this.
    Thank you. I was an obsessive hand washer before CoVid. It was always the first thing I did when I got home from school or anywhere, so that habit is there.

    At school I kept as clean a room as I could but kids just don't know how to sneeze or cough in their sleeve, and I handle their papers all day long. It's going to be a challenge. 

    I will persevere. In the three years I've cared for, I've reversed her heart failure and poor kidney function with diet, I've kept her diabetes well under control. Until now I've always thought she would end up dying from complications from a fall. Now this. I'm just tired.


    Big cities like NY are screwed. There is no way to stop an asymptomatic highly contagious disease with thousands in office buildings or trains. Or even on a city sidewalk. We have been in isolation for 17 days, one of the first states to do so, and the new cases and deaths reported today are as bad as ever. I understand the deaths are from cases 2 or 3 weeks ago but shouldn’t we have fewer new cases by now?
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Lerxst1992 said:
    what dreams said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what dreams said:
    I'm having the opposite problem with my mom, born in '41. I can't get her to take a walk outside because she thinks she'll breathe the virus in the air. She hasn't had fresh air in over a month.  

    I am living with this terrible reality that as soon as the stay at home order lifts, and I am ordered back to work (at a germ infested school in August) that I'm going to be the reason my mom dies. My cousin and I just had the discussion that neither of us expect our parents to survive this before the vaccine comes out. Two years is a really long time for perfect hygiene measures to be successful. It's been really awful to think about 
    i would encourage you to keep up with the hygiene measures. if you do something for about 30 days it becomes a habit. 
    this covid thing may die out before the vaccine is ready, so there is that hope.
    i wish you and your mom continued good health. you all will get through this.
    Thank you. I was an obsessive hand washer before CoVid. It was always the first thing I did when I got home from school or anywhere, so that habit is there.

    At school I kept as clean a room as I could but kids just don't know how to sneeze or cough in their sleeve, and I handle their papers all day long. It's going to be a challenge. 

    I will persevere. In the three years I've cared for, I've reversed her heart failure and poor kidney function with diet, I've kept her diabetes well under control. Until now I've always thought she would end up dying from complications from a fall. Now this. I'm just tired.


    Big cities like NY are screwed. There is no way to stop an asymptomatic highly contagious disease with thousands in office buildings or trains. Or even on a city sidewalk. We have been in isolation for 17 days, one of the first states to do so, and the new cases and deaths reported today are as bad as ever. I understand the deaths are from cases 2 or 3 weeks ago but shouldn’t we have fewer new cases by now?
    It's going to be a challenge for big cities for a long time. It's exhausting to think about.

    We've been under state at home for almost 30 in the DC metro area. The new cases have plateaued for about a week. Deaths are still going up.

    I wish they would start reporting the numbers of people who have RECOVERED. That would give people some hope.
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