Who messed up? Fans or Ticketmaster???

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  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    PJNB said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJNB said:
    benjs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I posted this in another thread.  To me the odds were definitely messed up.

    I was just talking to a few of my friends (7 in all including myself) who tried for msg as their first and only ticket request.  All of us put in best available and only one of us won tickets.  At 57% you think more would have won tickets. 
    Think of it this way. Your six friends and you each had a coin to flip. Knowing the odds were close to 50%, you hoped yours landed on 'heads'. Yours landed on heads, but your friends' coins landed on tails. Your assumption seems to be that your friends' coins had tails on both sides. My assumption is you got some bad (but not suspiciously bad) luck. 
    Odds where no wheres near 50%. Take into account all of the GA that won and could not be considered for the RES draw as well as everyone that put NY as a second or worse pick. 1st priority MSG should have been an easy 90% show.
    No way it was 90% if the odds only took 1st priority into account. 
    Has this been confirmed? I was going by the old system. 
    No, but if it was by the old system, I would agree with you. I just don't believe they were going by the old system based on results from other shows
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited January 2020
    Sorry the numbers in my head included a pit that was the size of a full arena like Europe and not the smaller US size so my 90% is def off. 

    I am just talking first priority here and my thoughts are that after you subtract GA from the equation since they can no longer be chosen for RES and also take away second priorities and worse that 57% should go up significantly as a first pick. Not the actual number you see on the odds page but the true first pick number. 

    That is if they in fact used all priorities in the odds calculation.
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  • manitouman
    manitouman In My Head Posts: 1,088
    Do the odds only count if you were selected for the lottery? I mean, it's a lottery system right. You submit your request for the chances of a lottery. IF you are randomly selected, then they take into account your selected priorities. But you have to be selected.

    I dont think the odds or priorities count unless you are actually selected in the random drawing. I cant remember if I've ever won in a drawing...at least not in any traditional 10c lottery. This is the first time and I've been in this for 20 years.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,244
    on2legs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I posted this in another thread.  To me the odds were definitely messed up.

    I was just talking to a few of my friends (7 in all including myself) who tried for msg as their first and only ticket request.  All of us put in best available and only one of us won tickets.  At 57% you think more would have won tickets. 
    The odds definitely seemed to be off or they didn’t explain properly what the odds were actually referring to... first choice vs. all choices. 

    I think all shows with the odds at 99% really jacked people’s expectations way up and that is a huge source for most of the anger.  If you told people ahead of time that there was a good chance they were going to get shut out then people could have managed their expectations better.  Instead we had a huge letdown for most people.  
    I think you’re dead on with this. They should have just put green yellow or red to show basic demand, nothing else or not even colors at all.  We all got our hopes us and it stung more.  Still doesn’t explain why my #2 pick lost (or so they say because I never did get an answer, I just gave up the fight) and some else’s 8th pick win, but whatevs.  I think they should eliminate BA and eliminate the odds for the fall tour lotto.
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  • CL93527
    CL93527 Posts: 25
    edited January 2020
    Gludfssr said:
    The problem was with Oakland and Los Angeles having 2 shows.  
    If you put both shows in with your 1st two priorities you only got the 1st one and the second was disregarded by the software that was used for picking out the winners.  
    I just spoke to a supervisor at Tickets Today that in not so many ways agreed with this. 

    Had I have known this I would have put them in different priority order. 

    Ten Club needs to address this.  
    We might need to keep pushing until we get a response for what happened.  




    i put la reserved for my top two and only picks and got declined both. got emails for both.

    response from 10c:

    Please know whenever a Ten Club ticket presale is announced, eligible members will have the opportunity to try for tickets through the Ten Club. Every eligible member has the same chance at being selected. This drawing system levels the playing field and makes it fair to all paying members. Not everyone will be lucky in a case where there are less tickets than ticket entries, but those who do end up with tickets will have obtained them fairly and without any special advantages over any other members.

    Pearl Jam shows: Reserved seated tickets are assigned to members based on seniority in the Ten Club and will start closest to the stage extending back.

    We are sorry you did not get Ten Club tickets. Even though we were able to more than double the amount of tickets accessible to our members, fans did not get tickets for the following reasons:

    • They only entered for GA (this was the biggest widespread reason fans did not get tickets)
    • Entered for both GA, Reserved or ADA in a city where the demand outweighed the supply, even by 1% in some cases.
    • Submitted invalid Ten Club info

    If you registered for the Verified Fan Public Presale, you'll have another shot at tickets during Thursday's presale. If you didn't register in time for that, then your next opportunity will be through the general public sale on Friday:
    https://pearljam.com/tour

    Final Ticket Odds:
    Toronto ON GA: 32.03% Res: 99.00%
    Ottawa, ON GA: 56.17% Res: 99.00%
    Quebec City GA: 75.47% Res: 99.00%
    Hamilton GA: 40.37% RES: 99.00%
    Baltimore GA: 14.47% RES: 65.20%
    NY, NY GA: 9.66% RES: 57.22%
    Nashville, TN GA: 19.65% RES: 99.00%
    St Louis MO GA: 20.08% RES: 99.00%
    OKC GA: 59.29% RES: 99.00%
    Denver GA: 20.36% RES: 99.00%
    Glendale AZ GA: 33.91% RES: 99.00%
    San Diego GA: 32.41% RES: 99.00%
    LA Night 1 GA: 27.16% RES: 99.00%
    LA Night 2 GA: 24.77% RES: 99.00%
    Oakland Night 1 GA: 28.08% RES: 99.00%
    Oakland Night 2 GA: 34.58% RES: 99.00%

    -10c


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