Shut out once again. Ten Club, I would like an explanation

BennyLaRue · January 2020

pawlowski1097 said:

brewdog123 said:

The sense of entitlement is strong here

Not really if the guy chose 3/4 shows all at 99% no way he falls in the 1% losing category for all 3/4.

Just insane and something else happened.

Who has that happened to?

Lerxst1992 · January 2020

BennyLaRue said:

pawlowski1097 said:

brewdog123 said:

The sense of entitlement is strong here

Not really if the guy chose 3/4 shows all at 99% no way he falls in the 1% losing category for all 3/4.

Just insane and something else happened.

Who has that happened to?

Being funny? Have you read the OP?

mattsavard · January 2020

PP193448 said:
How do we know that the persons not selected as first priority in first round even got automatically bumped into the second round pot... If they didn’t, then they would never be chosen for that show in any subsequent rounds.

Because LOTS of people got into shows that were their 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th choice. I got into both Canadian shows I requested.

I'm cautiously optimistic I'll get both US shows I requested because they had 99% odds, I know how to use Ticketmaster's site, and my card has plenty of room.

So far outside of a couple very isolated incidents, it appears everyone who selected BA got every show they wanted to (aside from MSG and BAL obviously.)

I still can't for the life of me understand why people who were okay with Reserved selected GA only thinking it would improve their odds of getting GA... like the TM computer is thinking "boy this guy is SERIOUS about GA, I'm gonna hook him up"

16gauge · January 2020

pawlowski1097 said:

brewdog123 said:

The sense of entitlement is strong here

Not really if the guy chose 3/4 shows all at 99% no way he falls in the 1% losing category for all 3/4.

Just insane and something else happened.

pawlowski1097 said:

16gauge said:

Can someone kindly tell me how to reply to a comment. I've never done this before.....

Hit the quote button under what they typed. dmbolp said:

16gauge said:

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ecdanc · January 2020

16gauge said:

pawlowski1097 said:

brewdog123 said:

The sense of entitlement is strong here

Not really if the guy chose 3/4 shows all at 99% no way he falls in the 1% losing category for all 3/4.

Just insane and something else happened.

pawlowski1097 said:

16gauge said:

Can someone kindly tell me how to reply to a comment. I've never done this before.....

Hit the quote button under what they typed. dmbolp said:

16gauge said:

Can someone kindly tell me how to reply to a comment. I've never done this before.....

Click on the "Qoute" link in the bottom/left corner of the post you want to reply to

dmbolp said:

16gauge said:

Can someone kindly tell me how to reply to a comment. I've never done this before.....

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dmbolp said:

16gauge said:

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dmbolp said:

16gauge said:

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Thanks All!

Found the button....

16gauge · January 2020

NewfieintheUSA said:

16gauge said:

So is the lottery for Denver over? I didn't receive a confirmation either way? I received a confirmation for Oakland but not Denver.

Did you check your credit card?

Yes, charged for Oakland only.

mattsavard · January 2020

If you have statistical proof how that is a valid occurance in a random 99% draw, please share.

Occams Razor:

At least one of those two people claims this isn't the first time he's been "screwed over" by 10C.... the odds of one misstep are massive (given how isolated it is).

The odds of it happening to the same guy twice are so astronomical it points to only two possible explanations:

1) IIC error aka User Error (card issue, account issue, operator error)

2) He is trolling or lying

only two possible explanations. Sorry.

dmbolp · January 2020

16guage, you're not doing it right

BennyLaRue · January 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

pawlowski1097 said:

brewdog123 said:

The sense of entitlement is strong here

Not really if the guy chose 3/4 shows all at 99% no way he falls in the 1% losing category for all 3/4.

Just insane and something else happened.

Who has that happened to?

Being funny? Have you read the OP?

That is not what happened to OP and I helped him realize he might have not put his 10C email in for Step 9.

BennyLaRue · January 2020

Exaggerating doesn't help quell the insane paranoia around here.

16gauge · January 2020

pawlowski1097 said:

brewdog123 said:

The sense of entitlement is strong here

Not really if the guy chose 3/4 shows all at 99% no way he falls in the 1% losing category for all 3/4.

Just insane and something else happened.

Agreed. No sense of entitlement, somethings off. There's no way you lose 3/4, let alone any of them, when you have 99% odds of winning. Wondering if there's some glitches given this is the first time using this Ticketmaster platform.

JimmyV · January 2020

One thing we've learned is that the number of people who completed the process correctly is less than the number of people who believed they completed the process correctly.

Lerxst1992 · January 2020

mattsavard said:

If you have statistical proof how that is a valid occurance in a random 99% draw, please share.

Occams Razor:

At least one of those two people claims this isn't the first time he's been "screwed over" by 10C.... the odds of one misstep are massive (given how isolated it is).

The odds of it happening to the same guy twice are so astronomical it points to only two possible explanations:

1) IIC error aka User Error (card issue, account issue, operator error)

2) He is trolling or lying

only two possible explanations. Sorry.

The OP and Gonzo(?) never indicated any error on their part. Many more fans in the OAK topic are also complaining losing their top priority shows where others are winning on their # 3 or 4 priority show

another fan said here they made a mistake of resubmitting for only one of two shows. Their complaint is still pending for that one show.

This is a new process. Being screwed over in the past is not comparable to a new process that includes a BA option.

this would be much more transparent if the club did not send loss emails due to high demand for 99% shows. That is absurd.

buck502000 · January 2020

buck502000 said:

Get a burner phone. Make a call to 10C headquarters, they will never know it was you....

pjl44 · January 2020

mattsavard said:

PP193448 said:
How do we know that the persons not selected as first priority in first round even got automatically bumped into the second round pot... If they didn’t, then they would never be chosen for that show in any subsequent rounds.

I still can't for the life of me understand why people who were okay with Reserved selected GA only thinking it would improve their odds of getting GA... like the TM computer is thinking "boy this guy is SERIOUS about GA, I'm gonna hook him up"

They probably listened to the conspiracy theories in that DMB thread and got porked as a result

tdawe · January 2020

Positive vibes only today everyone.

mace1229 · January 2020

Bmyers said:

cannotstaylong said:

Gonzo1977 said:

cannotstaylong said:

Gonzo1977 said:

OceansJenny said:

I love people getting bent out of shape over the value of a $20/year membership. I’ve seen people spend over $20 at Starbucks.

The ticket rejection pain is real.

Again, I imagine your Starbucks membership usually gets you a Starbucks coffee..No?

10C memberships have not included guaranteed concert tickets for a long time. I honestly don't remember when they did. The issue here is not the 10C membership benefits, it's your expectations.

Again, I ask.... what does your $20.00 membership get you? Nobody has answered that question.
I can tell you this was a hell of a lot easier to answer back in the day when you got : priority seating at shows, annual (sometimes) 45"single, & a newsletter with original artwork.

It gets you the opportunity to purchase tickets, annual bootleg codes, and better seating (as a result of a lower membership number) if you score reserved seating tickets.

If you've been a member for as long as you're implying, then the overall pool of 10C members has grown exponentially since you joined. The pool of people interested in getting tickets is significantly larger. In response to that reality, the band has chosen to extend the opportunity to secure tickets to as many people as possible. Hence, the lottery.

If you disagree with that direction by the band, then you should not renew your membership. It's been this way for a long time, and I doubt it's going to change.

And as our kids and kids friends grow up and listen to more PJ they will start joining the 10C and it will water down the lottery making it harder and harder for everyone to get tickets. It sucks but it is what it is.

A lottery is a lottery, do these poeple go to the Virginia Lottery office and say I bought a ticket for the mega millions and i didn't win.. I'm going cry about it on your forum.

Shit changes, times change i remember when you didn't have to pay to get your luggage on a plane, I mean WTF is that. Rules change so we have to change, maybe you should read, Who Moved My Cheese by Spencer Johnson.

I don’t like these lottery analogies that keep coming up. Because according to the rules everyone was basically guaranteed tickets as long as they chose reserved or BA. They do have a complaint when some are getting 5th round picks and others getting denied for priority 1 and 2. Call it a lottery or whatever you want, but that shouldn’t happen.

Now I’m in the camp where I still believe something went wrong, with either their entry or CC that caused this. But that is just a guess at this point.

Lerxst1992 · January 2020

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

pawlowski1097 said:

brewdog123 said:

The sense of entitlement is strong here

Not really if the guy chose 3/4 shows all at 99% no way he falls in the 1% losing category for all 3/4.

Just insane and something else happened.

Who has that happened to?

Being funny? Have you read the OP?

That is not what happened to OP and I helped him realize he might have not put his 10C email in for Step 9.

Thanks for the clarification, although I don’t believe he verified one way or the other.

Two things the club could have done to be helpful. Send a proper loss notification. Don’t call a loss due to email mismatch a loss to high demand for a 99% show. Also, spell out that an email mismatch will result in an entire order being voided, like they did in step 2 with member names. Put the email match process in step 2 also.

ecdanc · January 2020

mace1229 said:

Bmyers said:

cannotstaylong said:

Gonzo1977 said:

cannotstaylong said:

Gonzo1977 said:

OceansJenny said:

I love people getting bent out of shape over the value of a $20/year membership. I’ve seen people spend over $20 at Starbucks.

The ticket rejection pain is real.

Again, I imagine your Starbucks membership usually gets you a Starbucks coffee..No?

10C memberships have not included guaranteed concert tickets for a long time. I honestly don't remember when they did. The issue here is not the 10C membership benefits, it's your expectations.

Again, I ask.... what does your $20.00 membership get you? Nobody has answered that question.
I can tell you this was a hell of a lot easier to answer back in the day when you got : priority seating at shows, annual (sometimes) 45"single, & a newsletter with original artwork.

It gets you the opportunity to purchase tickets, annual bootleg codes, and better seating (as a result of a lower membership number) if you score reserved seating tickets.

If you've been a member for as long as you're implying, then the overall pool of 10C members has grown exponentially since you joined. The pool of people interested in getting tickets is significantly larger. In response to that reality, the band has chosen to extend the opportunity to secure tickets to as many people as possible. Hence, the lottery.

If you disagree with that direction by the band, then you should not renew your membership. It's been this way for a long time, and I doubt it's going to change.

And as our kids and kids friends grow up and listen to more PJ they will start joining the 10C and it will water down the lottery making it harder and harder for everyone to get tickets. It sucks but it is what it is.

A lottery is a lottery, do these poeple go to the Virginia Lottery office and say I bought a ticket for the mega millions and i didn't win.. I'm going cry about it on your forum.

Shit changes, times change i remember when you didn't have to pay to get your luggage on a plane, I mean WTF is that. Rules change so we have to change, maybe you should read, Who Moved My Cheese by Spencer Johnson.

I don’t like these lottery analogies that keep coming up. Because according to the rules everyone was basically guaranteed tickets as long as they chose reserved or BA. They do have a complaint when some are getting 5th round picks and others getting denied for priority 1 and 2. Call it a lottery or whatever you want, but that shouldn’t happen.

Now I’m in the camp where I still believe something went wrong, with either their entry or CC that caused this. But that is just a guess at this point.

According to the odds, yes (99%....). According to the rules, no. The rules say "The majority of fans who enter the Ten Club ticket request will get tickets." That could simply mean that 51% of people who submit a ticket request will get SOME tickets. That is almost certainly true.

HollisBrown · January 2020

So, about what time do the college rejection letters start arriving in our in boxes?

Shut out once again. Ten Club, I would like an explanation

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