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2020 Fall North American rumour thread

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  • One thing to keep in mind is Pearl Jam is not going to be one of the first groups to rush out and start having concerts again.  They were one of the first big acts to cancel their tour and will be one of the last to return.  That's why I see 2021 as unlikely.  
    I see it differently.  They applied reason and logic to determine they should cancel, rather than waiting for bureaucrats.  Barring any new information, reason and logic indicate the vaccine should have things well under control by the summer.  It is completely reasonable for them to book fall dates.  Two festivals are already on the books, not to mention an entire European tour.  
  • ZodZod Posts: 7,270
    ryph raph said:
    One thing to keep in mind is Pearl Jam is not going to be one of the first groups to rush out and start having concerts again.  They were one of the first big acts to cancel their tour and will be one of the last to return.  That's why I see 2021 as unlikely.  

    Or they may just call it quits.

    And only do the one off charity performances every few years.


    That went dark fast :(

    I always kind of felt like PJ would keep going until they couldn't.   They've always been pretty good at figuring out the balance that lets them continue (shorter small tours etc..).   I bet the unwanted time off will make them jones more to play live.   Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

    I would of said PJ wouldn't be the kind of band to schedule in dates, that they would have to bump yet a 2nd time, but next summers Euro tour seems questionable.   I would hope they tour in 2022.

    I also expect a lot of bands will be jonesing to do live shows when the pandemic ends.  Either because they haven't played in years, they need the income, or they want to make sure their crew gets paid.    I feel like the competition for venues and fan's ticket money will be high that first year (or two) after the pandemic ends.

  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 10,320
    I’m optimistic we’ll see some shows next fall.  Especially with vaccines rolling out soon.  Not a given but I feel like we’re moving in the right direction.  
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  • Groda03Groda03 Posts: 46
    I think Ohana happens at the end of September.  Outdoors, smaller venue, 10 months from now.  I am really hopeful for this.  
  • tschavtschav Posts: 1,941
    Groda03 said:
    I think Ohana happens at the end of September.  Outdoors, smaller venue, 10 months from now.  I am really hopeful for this.  
    Been feeling the same - don't expect much before then, at least for the US. At this rate, I'd almost prefer to see Ohana and others pause ticket sales so that if they need to do it with reduced crowds they have it set in place (and open tickets up if things are looking more positive in the spring/summer). Get some more sponsors to offset the lower ticket sales if needed.
  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 6,299
    Agree.  I think Ohana is the next PJ show and I'm glad I have tickets.  I'd love for the rollout to go quickly and get to use my Budapest tix but I'm not betting on it.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 24,090
    I'm optimistic for next year.  Last week I got charged for the sea, hear, now festival.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot! (Chris Jericho)Posts: 23,941
    i'd love to do ohana. ed and the band on the beach in one weekend. fugggg. 
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  • DEGBTIDEGBTI san diegoPosts: 303
    I also see Ohana as the first gig, and I'm pretty fricken happy I have tickets!
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Cleveland, OHPosts: 2,841
    edited November 19
    Spring 2021 is completely out.  I think there is still some degree of hope for Europe Summer 2021 depending on how this winter goes and how the vaccines are distributed.  The logistics of the EU tour are already planned, dates announced, tickets sold, etc, which saves a huge step on the bands end.  I bet they haven't even begun to try and re plan the canceled US Spring 2020 dates (rightfully so).  I would look for the canceled US shows to be coordinated next fall around Ohana and Sea.Hear.Now.  
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  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 7,784
    https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-submit-emergency-use-authorization

    Looking for emergency use to be given hopefully in the middle of December right now. Lets get this ball going! Almost a year of the vaccine being out has me extremely hopeful for a fall 2021 tour. 
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 5,524
    It will be interesting to see which shows from the Spring 2020 tour plans get kept and which ones get scrapped.  They're not all going to make it.  Also wonder which of the planned Fall 2020 shows will make the cut.  Maybe they'll pull half of each and consolidate into one Fall/ Winter tour in 2021, assuming things go as planned with the vaccine.  As others have said, there's zero chance it happens earlier than that in the U.S., so lets hope a year from now we're seeing live shows again.
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 7,784
    edited November 20
    bbiggs said:
    It will be interesting to see which shows from the Spring 2020 tour plans get kept and which ones get scrapped.  They're not all going to make it.  Also wonder which of the planned Fall 2020 shows will make the cut.  Maybe they'll pull half of each and consolidate into one Fall/ Winter tour in 2021, assuming things go as planned with the vaccine.  As others have said, there's zero chance it happens earlier than that in the U.S., so lets hope a year from now we're seeing live shows again.
    I would doubt any from the spring tour get cut. I think they will get split up into leg 1 and leg 2 differently now but there really is no reason to cut any shows minus issues with the venues. 

    Also some of these tickets have been sold 10 times over on the new system they have put in place for resale. If any of these get cancelled that is going to be a mess trying to sort out I bet.
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  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GAPosts: 1,907
    I think re-scheduling will be a nightmare. I'm assuming that bands that have ppd shows will have priority with re-scheduling shows compared to bands that didn't have anything previously scheduled.  Also have to work around the adjusted NHL & NBA schedules too. 
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  • PJNB said:
    bbiggs said:
    It will be interesting to see which shows from the Spring 2020 tour plans get kept and which ones get scrapped.  They're not all going to make it.  Also wonder which of the planned Fall 2020 shows will make the cut.  Maybe they'll pull half of each and consolidate into one Fall/ Winter tour in 2021, assuming things go as planned with the vaccine.  As others have said, there's zero chance it happens earlier than that in the U.S., so lets hope a year from now we're seeing live shows again.
    I would doubt any from the spring tour get cut. I think they will get split up into leg 1 and leg 2 differently now but there really is no reason to cut any shows minus issues with the venues. 

    Also some of these tickets have been sold 10 times over on the new system they have put in place for resale. If any of these get cancelled that is going to be a mess trying to sort out I bet.
    My 2 cents:  Spring 2020 plus Ohana and SHN become Fall 2021.  Swing state tour that was never announced for Fall 2020 becomes Fall 2022 for midterm elections.  Euro 2020 has a 50% chance of being Euro 2021 as announced; otherwise, Euro 2022 summer.  Australia/NZ Jan/Feb 2022.  South America March/April 2022. You heard it here first.  Someone send me some tickets if I’m right!
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Cleveland, OHPosts: 2,841
    PJNB said:
    bbiggs said:
    It will be interesting to see which shows from the Spring 2020 tour plans get kept and which ones get scrapped.  They're not all going to make it.  Also wonder which of the planned Fall 2020 shows will make the cut.  Maybe they'll pull half of each and consolidate into one Fall/ Winter tour in 2021, assuming things go as planned with the vaccine.  As others have said, there's zero chance it happens earlier than that in the U.S., so lets hope a year from now we're seeing live shows again.
    I would doubt any from the spring tour get cut. I think they will get split up into leg 1 and leg 2 differently now but there really is no reason to cut any shows minus issues with the venues. 

    Also some of these tickets have been sold 10 times over on the new system they have put in place for resale. If any of these get cancelled that is going to be a mess trying to sort out I bet.
    My 2 cents:  Spring 2020 plus Ohana and SHN become Fall 2021.  Swing state tour that was never announced for Fall 2020 becomes Fall 2022 for midterm elections.  Euro 2020 has a 50% chance of being Euro 2021 as announced; otherwise, Euro 2022 summer.  Australia/NZ Jan/Feb 2022.  South America March/April 2022. You heard it here first.  Someone send me some tickets if I’m right!
    Agree, but one of Aus/NZ or South America will be just a few (4-6) festival shows.... too many shows for the band to play in that time period, even with a what could be 3 year break
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    2012: Atlanta (Music Midtown Festival)
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City (Global Citizen Festival)
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly - Night II / New York City - Night II / Toronto - Night II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway - Night II / Wrigley - Night I / Wrigley - Night II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
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  • Hmmm...now 3 vaccines almost good to go - wondering when we will see the PJ fall dates announced...maybe in December once there is formal FDA EUA for the vaccines? From there it’s just blocking and tackling.  
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Cleveland, OHPosts: 2,841
    Hopefully not a sign of things to come

    but Billie Eilish just changed her entire tour from “postponed” to “canceled” and is issuing refunds for all tickets 
    PJ, Please come back to Cleveland in 2018

    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta (Music Midtown Festival)
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City (Global Citizen Festival)
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly - Night II / New York City - Night II / Toronto - Night II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway - Night II / Wrigley - Night I / Wrigley - Night II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 921
    Hopefully not a sign of things to come

    but Billie Eilish just changed her entire tour from “postponed” to “canceled” and is issuing refunds for all tickets 
    Such odd timing to do that, just as vaccines are launching and talk of return to normal by fall.  It’s been said before but I’d rather hold existing tickets as long as necessary than have the thing scrapped and start again.
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