Two shows in Wisconsin At least two in Pennsylvania and maybe three if they did two in Philly. At least one in Ohio...the rumors were Columbus or Cleveland, but not both. There were rumors about two in Chicago at a place not named Wrigley Field.
Maybe a return trip to NYC since they couldn't get two in MSG?
Boston? Hartford?
We know Seattle was out.
More or less falls in line with the predictions of hitting swing states/midwest before the election.
That being said... dammit it’d be nice to hear concert news again
One Ohio show in the last 10 years. Glad to hear that it was at least on their radar.
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Well Celine Dion has scheduled Aug/Sept. 2021 NA dates.
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One Ohio show in the last 10 years. Glad to hear that it was at least on their radar.
Look at how much they (haven't) toured the Midwest lately.
Have they really only done seven US shows since their last song at Wrigley 2016? That's almost one show per year at this point.
May 2010 two shows in Ohio. Fall 2013...they did that big U-shaped tour and Pittsburgh isn't far from Ohio, but Ohio wasn't even on the band's "rumored list" then. October 2014 one show in Ohio and it's practically Kentucky down there. 2015...what, like 2-3 US festivals, right? 2016...largely east coast and a few other dates and Wrigley. 2017...one appearance. 2018...Home/Away 2019...A big fat nothing. 2020...rumored for one show until another big fat global nothing.
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To me it felt like PJ sort of started to settle into a Stones type touring thing. Where you go out and play a modest amount dates, sometimes you take a year off. Never insanely big tours or any thing. I do think it's moderately misleading as it seemed they were about to do a fairly extensive tour to support Gigaton (including additional fall dates, to the shows that got postponed). With Covid happening right after a year off, that's insanely bad luck :(
To me it felt like PJ sort of started to settle into a Stones type touring thing. Where you go out and play a modest amount dates, sometimes you take a year off. Never insanely big tours or any thing. I do think it's moderately misleading as it seemed they were about to do a fairly extensive tour to support Gigaton (including additional fall dates, to the shows that got postponed). With Covid happening right after a year off, that's insanely bad luck :(
In the early 90s, they basically had to tour to sell tickets and stay relevant.
2003 or 2006 or so was probably one of the last "real tours" they did...which was right as they got out of their deal with Sony/Epic and begun to do things their own way. Backspacer came out and they did the 2009/2010 tours and then we got the PJ20 stuff along with a Brad tour and a ton of other side projects.
But yeah, this was just bad luck. Part of me still thinks that when Chris died in 2017, that pushed stuff back. Soundgarden would have toured. Jeff had his book that year. Eddie went on tour in Europe...but what happened after Eddie got back from Europe? I don't want to play a blame game, but we're all left wondering what could have happened later in 2017 if Chris didn't die.
Can't Deny Me came out in March of 2018 off the then-forthcoming album.
If they didn't press that reset button, maybe they do a lot more USA in 2018 and even 2019 then they hit up Australia/New Zealand in the first two months, back to Europe over June/July and more USA in late 2019.
Instead, we had to wait about two years from CDM to Gigaton.
Something happened there. Something big.
Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
To me it felt like PJ sort of started to settle into a Stones type touring thing. Where you go out and play a modest amount dates, sometimes you take a year off. Never insanely big tours or any thing. I do think it's moderately misleading as it seemed they were about to do a fairly extensive tour to support Gigaton (including additional fall dates, to the shows that got postponed). With Covid happening right after a year off, that's insanely bad luck :(
In the early 90s, they basically had to tour to sell tickets and stay relevant.
2003 or 2006 or so was probably one of the last "real tours" they did...which was right as they got out of their deal with Sony/Epic and begun to do things their own way. Backspacer came out and they did the 2009/2010 tours and then we got the PJ20 stuff along with a Brad tour and a ton of other side projects.
But yeah, this was just bad luck. Part of me still thinks that when Chris died in 2017, that pushed stuff back. Soundgarden would have toured. Jeff had his book that year. Eddie went on tour in Europe...but what happened after Eddie got back from Europe? I don't want to play a blame game, but we're all left wondering what could have happened later in 2017 if Chris didn't die.
Can't Deny Me came out in March of 2018 off the then-forthcoming album.
If they didn't press that reset button, maybe they do a lot more USA in 2018 and even 2019 then they hit up Australia/New Zealand in the first two months, back to Europe over June/July and more USA in late 2019.
Instead, we had to wait about two years from CDM to Gigaton.
Something happened there. Something big.
Yah, you do get the feeling that they took a step back when Chris Cornell passed away. Maybe it took all or some of them a bit to work through that. Then when they were ready to go again, they hit the start over button the album.
I feel like PJ toured heavily in the early 90s because they were young and that's what you do. You read any biography and the label is pushing you to do album release/tour cycles. I think slowing down on tour dates was part of their whole mid(ish) 90s pull back thing. Even when they sorted it out by the Yield tour, they seemed to find a cycle of doing 3 legs every 2 or 3 years. 2 NA legs, and an international leg. They seem like big tours now, but they were actually pretty small compared to their peers (many bands would go out and tour 2 years straight after an album drop). PJ does seem to have rubbed off on other bands now (or maybe it's because their all getting older). I'm noticing a fair number of the remaining arena/stadium sized rock acts were settling into a leg or two a year (month or two of touring kind of thing). I suppose PJ didn't invent it, but it probably helps go the distance when it comes to longevity of a band. Being on the road is that hardest part of that job. Been watching documentaries from other musicians at the lengths they go to to make the travel aspect of touring tolerable. Many bands will setup a hub where their families are at. Like in Paris or something. Then after every Euro show they fly back to the hub, so they can stay in one place and have families to go back too. Create a bit of normalcy while on the road. It's interesting watching musicians talk about it openly. They all pretty much say the same thing. It's amazing at the beginning, you get to see the whole world, but after a while it spirals out of control.
It's a bit a of a bummer we got so few PJ shows over the past however many years, and that Covid hit the brakes right when they were about to start doing a bunch of them. I am glad the band has (mostly) figured out what works for them. Hopefully it means we continue to get tours for a while.
You mentioned something about cutting back on touring helped with longetiviy. I think that was even mentioned by a band member in a documentary or maybe at a show.
And yeah, I think I read something about Pearl Jam being based out of Orlando for their Florida shows back in 2016. It may be a bit more travel, but it's gotta beat packing the bags every damn night. They can easily get a private jet while their road crew packs the trucks.
Back in 2003 in Columbus, Eddie mentioned starting the day in Chicago. It's clearly audible during the first encore break right before (I think) Given To Fly.
I remembered that just now and that made me think.
June 18th -- Chicago June 19th -- Cincinnati (Canceled for flooding) June 21st -- East Troy June 22nd -- Noblesville (aka Indianapolis) June 24th -- Columbus June 25th -- Clarkston (aka Detroit) June 26th -- Clarkston
If you want to go THAT route, the Cubs were in Cincinnati from the 16th to the 19th and then in Chicago from the 20th to the 23rd and from the 26th to the 29th. The Cubs @ Cincinnati on the 19th was played.
Hmmmm...
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May 2010 two shows in Ohio. Fall 2013...they did that big U-shaped tour and Pittsburgh isn't far from Ohio, but Ohio wasn't even on the band's "rumored list" then. October 2014 one show in Ohio and it's practically Kentucky down there. 2015...what, like 2-3 US festivals, right? 2016...largely east coast and a few other dates and Wrigley. 2017...one appearance. 2018...Home/Away 2019...A big fat nothing. 2020...rumored for one show until another big fat global nothing.
Addendum:
We only got many of the USA 2016 shows because the attacks in Paris in 2015 caused the Euro 2016 tour to not be announced.
I bet that many of those USA shows don't happen if the attacks don't happen.
Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
We only got many of the USA 2016 shows because the attacks in Paris in 2015 caused the Euro 2016 tour to not be announced.
I bet that many of those USA shows don't happen if the attacks don't happen.
Maybe true for the summer 2016 shows, but incorrect for the spring 2016 North American tour. That tour was locked in by Oct 2015 and there were rumours of it being announced even in October but the announcement kept getting pushed back (it was also supposed to be announced in December at one point). Pre-Paris attack the band was to do North America Apr/May, Europe June/July. The Bonaroo show also popped up sometime in November or December as a headliner they had booked bailed with only a few weeks until the festival was announced.
All this to say, spring North America 2016 was happening regardless of attack in Paris.
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We only got many of the USA 2016 shows because the attacks in Paris in 2015 caused the Euro 2016 tour to not be announced.
I bet that many of those USA shows don't happen if the attacks don't happen.
Maybe true for the summer 2016 shows, but incorrect for the spring 2016 North American tour. That tour was locked in by Oct 2015 and there were rumours of it being announced even in October but the announcement kept getting pushed back (it was also supposed to be announced in December at one point). Pre-Paris attack the band was to do North America Apr/May, Europe June/July. The Bonaroo show also popped up sometime in November or December as a headliner they had booked bailed with only a few weeks until the festival was announced.
All this to say, spring North America 2016 was happening regardless of attack in Paris.
Ya I had my Quebec City hotel booked for the NA tour before the attack even happened.
Which obviously wouldn't have happened with the fall USA tour...unless if it was some sort of video stream from Ohana.
It'd be great if they could release the dates anyway, just so we could see them under a "Here's what could have been" situation.
I feel like today, 9/22 would have been the Columbus/Cleveland show. Ugh. Maybe next year for their second Ohio show since 5/10/2010, which was the day after Cleveland 2010.
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I will always be curious and somewhat fascinated about the Can’t Deny Me release and “forth coming” album note in 2018. But Gigaton two years later. Brendan O’Brien swapped for Josh Evans. And no shows from 9/4/2018 through (what was supposed to be) 3/18/2020.
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I will always be curious and somewhat fascinated about the Can’t Deny Me release and “forth coming” album note in 2018. But Gigaton two years later. Brendan O’Brien swapped for Josh Evans. And no shows from 9/4/2018 through (what was supposed to be) 3/18/2020.
It seemed like they went into the studio a few times but were struggling with creativity. It feels like they scrapped whatever they got from those sessions and started over.
I'm guessing 2019 ended up being a year off, and a time to record Gigaton. They had no idea 2020 was going to get scrapped due to a pandemic :(
I will always be curious and somewhat fascinated about the Can’t Deny Me release and “forth coming” album note in 2018. But Gigaton two years later. Brendan O’Brien swapped for Josh Evans. And no shows from 9/4/2018 through (what was supposed to be) 3/18/2020.
When did the Europe tour get announced?
I wonder if the original plan was essentially repeat 2013 with a South American tour, then album release and then a North American tour. When they released they needed more time, announce Europe and hope for early 2019.
When they realized that 2018 wasn't going to happen as planned, then announce Home/Away. Some time in 2018, they got that "oh crap" sinking feeling and then Eddie hit us with the "it's gonna be a while" statement at Fenway.
Going from September 2018 to... Summer 2020? Fall 2020? Whenever the next show is...if someone was born during the last PJ show, they could almost be damn well out of diapers by the next show.
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Such a bummer. Fall 2021 has to be more likely to go through than Spring 2021, right? Either way, I guess it's possible we don't have shows next year, either.
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Spring 21 seems improbable given the vaccine timetable. Fall 21 seems feasible if something is approved by end of 20. Other artists are booking Fall 21 and Winter 22 dates. As of now there’s Bottlerock Napa Valley with RHCP on May 28, 2021 but I wouldn’t book a flight just yet.
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That being said... dammit it’d be nice to hear concert news again
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2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
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"No matter how cold the winter, there's a springtime ahead"
Look at how much they (haven't) toured the Midwest lately.
Have they really only done seven US shows since their last song at Wrigley 2016? That's almost one show per year at this point.
May 2010 two shows in Ohio.
Fall 2013...they did that big U-shaped tour and Pittsburgh isn't far from Ohio, but Ohio wasn't even on the band's "rumored list" then.
October 2014 one show in Ohio and it's practically Kentucky down there.
2015...what, like 2-3 US festivals, right?
2016...largely east coast and a few other dates and Wrigley.
2017...one appearance.
2018...Home/Away
2019...A big fat nothing.
2020...rumored for one show until another big fat global nothing.
In the early 90s, they basically had to tour to sell tickets and stay relevant.
2003 or 2006 or so was probably one of the last "real tours" they did...which was right as they got out of their deal with Sony/Epic and begun to do things their own way. Backspacer came out and they did the 2009/2010 tours and then we got the PJ20 stuff along with a Brad tour and a ton of other side projects.
But yeah, this was just bad luck. Part of me still thinks that when Chris died in 2017, that pushed stuff back. Soundgarden would have toured. Jeff had his book that year. Eddie went on tour in Europe...but what happened after Eddie got back from Europe? I don't want to play a blame game, but we're all left wondering what could have happened later in 2017 if Chris didn't die.
Can't Deny Me came out in March of 2018 off the then-forthcoming album.
If they didn't press that reset button, maybe they do a lot more USA in 2018 and even 2019 then they hit up Australia/New Zealand in the first two months, back to Europe over June/July and more USA in late 2019.
Instead, we had to wait about two years from CDM to Gigaton.
Something happened there. Something big.
And yeah, I think I read something about Pearl Jam being based out of Orlando for their Florida shows back in 2016. It may be a bit more travel, but it's gotta beat packing the bags every damn night. They can easily get a private jet while their road crew packs the trucks.
Back in 2003 in Columbus, Eddie mentioned starting the day in Chicago. It's clearly audible during the first encore break right before (I think) Given To Fly.
I remembered that just now and that made me think.
June 18th -- Chicago
June 19th -- Cincinnati (Canceled for flooding)
June 21st -- East Troy
June 22nd -- Noblesville (aka Indianapolis)
June 24th -- Columbus
June 25th -- Clarkston (aka Detroit)
June 26th -- Clarkston
If you want to go THAT route, the Cubs were in Cincinnati from the 16th to the 19th and then in Chicago from the 20th to the 23rd and from the 26th to the 29th. The Cubs @ Cincinnati on the 19th was played.
Hmmmm...
Fall 2013...they did that big U-shaped tour and Pittsburgh isn't far from Ohio, but Ohio wasn't even on the band's "rumored list" then.
October 2014 one show in Ohio and it's practically Kentucky down there.
2015...what, like 2-3 US festivals, right?
2016...largely east coast and a few other dates and Wrigley.
2017...one appearance.
2018...Home/Away
2019...A big fat nothing.
2020...rumored for one show until another big fat global nothing.
Addendum:
We only got many of the USA 2016 shows because the attacks in Paris in 2015 caused the Euro 2016 tour to not be announced.
I bet that many of those USA shows don't happen if the attacks don't happen.
The Bonaroo show also popped up sometime in November or December as a headliner they had booked bailed with only a few weeks until the festival was announced.
All this to say, spring North America 2016 was happening regardless of attack in Paris.
2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
Which obviously wouldn't have happened with the fall USA tour...unless if it was some sort of video stream from Ohana.
It'd be great if they could release the dates anyway, just so we could see them under a "Here's what could have been" situation.
I feel like today, 9/22 would have been the Columbus/Cleveland show. Ugh. Maybe next year for their second Ohio show since 5/10/2010, which was the day after Cleveland 2010.
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When did the Europe tour get announced?
I wonder if the original plan was essentially repeat 2013 with a South American tour, then album release and then a North American tour. When they released they needed more time, announce Europe and hope for early 2019.
When they realized that 2018 wasn't going to happen as planned, then announce Home/Away. Some time in 2018, they got that "oh crap" sinking feeling and then Eddie hit us with the "it's gonna be a while" statement at Fenway.
Going from September 2018 to... Summer 2020? Fall 2020? Whenever the next show is...if someone was born during the last PJ show, they could almost be damn well out of diapers by the next show.
Read into this if you want, but right now and at other times this week, they're playing 8/6/2000 from Greensboro, NC.
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They used to tweet and Facebook their show schedules. I've definitely heard the "Ice Bowl" and Detroit 2014 this week.
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MSG 2016 1&2
Wrigley 2016 1&2
Eddie Vedder Obama Farewell Address 2017
Eddie Vedder Louisville, KY 2017
London 2018 1
Wrigley 2018 1&2
St. Louis 2020
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