Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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brianlux
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Happy to hear some of our California Fire fighters are heading to Australia to help out.Ā Cal Fire is also prepping to send in some help.Ā May as well- things are pretty calm here this time of year.Ā Hope it helps!
āThe fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.ā
The smoke in the air is the worst it has been in the part of Melbourne I live. It is getting in the house. Hard to breath outside. No chance of hanging the washing out to dry our working outside. F**K YOU SCOMO!
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
goldrush
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I have no words for what is happening to our country right now. Every day brings another awful story of loss, followed by some truly unbelievable acts of bravery by the volunteers, followed by yet more anger at the inept idiot that is supposed to be running the country #scottyfrommarketing
Itās just an absolute horrific roller coaster of emotions, and thereās no real end in sight.
āDo not postpone happinessā
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
āPut yer good money on the sunriseā
(Tim Rogers)
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goldrush
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Iāve seen this posted and shared a lot on social media, and itās something all Australians should be on board withĀ
āDo not postpone happinessā
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
āPut yer good money on the sunriseā
(Tim Rogers)
I have no words for what is happening to our country right now. Every day brings another awful story of loss, followed by some truly unbelievable acts of bravery by the volunteers, followed by yet more anger at the inept idiot that is supposed to be running the country #scottyfrommarketing
Itās just an absolute horrific roller coaster of emotions, and thereās no real end in sight.
exactly how i feel. we had some drizzly rain last night on the mid north coast. already its hot steamy and dry as a bone again. Friday looking to be another challenging day. Its not over by a long shot
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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Probably the most balanced post Iāve seen on social media for a while...
āAlright. A lot of people have asked. I'm a Firefighter in Australia. Let's talk about the fires.
First of all does being a firery give me all the insight to this complex issue? Not even close and I need to make that clear. However I've felt a strong need to say something here because I just can't stomach some of the false science and outright lies being peddled on social media as news or facts.
Hazard reduction burns -Ā
No, the Greenies haven't been stopping hazard reduction burns from taking place. We still do them and yes we should absolutely do more of them.Ā
Yes, the weather extremes and droughts have significantly reduced the window in which it is safe to perform these burns.
Yes, the state governments need to invest more money in HRB's. NSW for example, as an estimate, would need to increase their budget from $100million to a half billion, a five fold increase and that money needs to come from somewhere.Ā
Yes, national parks, wildlife and nature reserves need to burn too but are hard to. They are the sanctuary's for Australian fauna who can no longer survive in the farmlands and housing estates we've constructed. Indiscriminate burning of national parks will literally wipe species off the face of the earth as they often have nowhere else to go.
Yes, indigenous people used to manage the land through burning and have a contribution here. However, Australia is a different landscape now, home to 24 million people and so HRB's needs to be managed differently.
Yes, conditions have been so bad this season that fires have still burnt through areas where hazard reduction burns were completed earlier in the year.
Climate change -Ā
No climate change is not starting fires. Lightening strikes, people, negligence etc.. is starting fires.Ā
BUT Yes, climate change is contributing to increasing temperatures and increasing drought severity which is creating worsening fire conditions.Ā
Yes, climate change is contributing to a longer fire season.Ā
Yes, we should have acted on climate change long ago. All of us. The whole world. Everyone.
No, no one knows exactly how much climate change has contributed to exacerbating the conditions for this year's catastrophic fire season however the best science available and scientific consensus is that there is an undeniable link.Ā
Aerial firefighting -Ā
Yes, as the fire season grows longer and northern and southern hemisphere fire seasons overlap more and more, Australia will have to invest in its own aerial firefighting fleet and not rely on leasing from overseas. Perhaps we should have done this earlier. We didn't.Ā
Politics and the media -Ā
Yes these fires have been politicised and yes our media is politicised.Ā
If you're left leaning and read Fairfax newspapers, you're more likely to blame Scomo and the government right now for their response. If you're right leaning and read News Ltd newspapers you're more likely to blame the greens right now for 'stopping' hazard reduction burns. Your social media is politicised in the same way and will show and share media that supports your general position and most likely strengthen your own existing narrative.Ā
No, a video on FB of a guy in the bush screaming at the greens is not facts about what caused these fires. No, a video of someone shouting at Scomo for not funding the NSW Rural Fire Service (state gov funded) is not facts about what caused these fires.Ā
Has Scomo done enough? Should he have gone on holidays? If you know me you know I'm left leaning so my answer will naturally contain a bias.
The best solution? A royal commission. Let's let impartial experts tell us what went wrong and how to act in response to it. I think you'll find we're all a little bit right as well as a little bit wrong.
What can you do right now?? Fucking donate!! The Red Cross appeal, the Salvation Army, Wires, Port Macquarie Koala Hospital, your state Rural Fire Service. Whoever. Do your research and donate wisely.
On top of this, once the smoke clears, grab your mates or family, jump in the car and visit these towns, spend money in their shops, stay the night, help get their local economy's back on track. They will need our support.Ā
Finally, to all of my firefighting brethren back home in Sydney, the Blue Mountains and the whole east coast, both career and volunteer, I know you've worked harder in the last 6 weeks than you've ever worked in your entire life and I'm so immensely proud of you all. Stay safe.ā
āDo not postpone happinessā
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
āPut yer good money on the sunriseā
(Tim Rogers)
Probably the most balanced post Iāve seen on social media for a while...
āAlright. A lot of people have asked. I'm a Firefighter in Australia. Let's talk about the fires.
First of all does being a firery give me all the insight to this complex issue? Not even close and I need to make that clear. However I've felt a strong need to say something here because I just can't stomach some of the false science and outright lies being peddled on social media as news or facts.
Hazard reduction burns -Ā
No, the Greenies haven't been stopping hazard reduction burns from taking place. We still do them and yes we should absolutely do more of them.Ā
Yes, the weather extremes and droughts have significantly reduced the window in which it is safe to perform these burns.
Yes, the state governments need to invest more money in HRB's. NSW for example, as an estimate, would need to increase their budget from $100million to a half billion, a five fold increase and that money needs to come from somewhere.Ā
Yes, national parks, wildlife and nature reserves need to burn too but are hard to. They are the sanctuary's for Australian fauna who can no longer survive in the farmlands and housing estates we've constructed. Indiscriminate burning of national parks will literally wipe species off the face of the earth as they often have nowhere else to go.
Yes, indigenous people used to manage the land through burning and have a contribution here. However, Australia is a different landscape now, home to 24 million people and so HRB's needs to be managed differently.
Yes, conditions have been so bad this season that fires have still burnt through areas where hazard reduction burns were completed earlier in the year.
Climate change -Ā
No climate change is not starting fires. Lightening strikes, people, negligence etc.. is starting fires.Ā
BUT Yes, climate change is contributing to increasing temperatures and increasing drought severity which is creating worsening fire conditions.Ā
Yes, climate change is contributing to a longer fire season.Ā
Yes, we should have acted on climate change long ago. All of us. The whole world. Everyone.
No, no one knows exactly how much climate change has contributed to exacerbating the conditions for this year's catastrophic fire season however the best science available and scientific consensus is that there is an undeniable link.Ā
Aerial firefighting -Ā
Yes, as the fire season grows longer and northern and southern hemisphere fire seasons overlap more and more, Australia will have to invest in its own aerial firefighting fleet and not rely on leasing from overseas. Perhaps we should have done this earlier. We didn't.Ā
Politics and the media -Ā
Yes these fires have been politicised and yes our media is politicised.Ā
If you're left leaning and read Fairfax newspapers, you're more likely to blame Scomo and the government right now for their response. If you're right leaning and read News Ltd newspapers you're more likely to blame the greens right now for 'stopping' hazard reduction burns. Your social media is politicised in the same way and will show and share media that supports your general position and most likely strengthen your own existing narrative.Ā
No, a video on FB of a guy in the bush screaming at the greens is not facts about what caused these fires. No, a video of someone shouting at Scomo for not funding the NSW Rural Fire Service (state gov funded) is not facts about what caused these fires.Ā
Has Scomo done enough? Should he have gone on holidays? If you know me you know I'm left leaning so my answer will naturally contain a bias.
The best solution? A royal commission. Let's let impartial experts tell us what went wrong and how to act in response to it. I think you'll find we're all a little bit right as well as a little bit wrong.
What can you do right now?? Fucking donate!! The Red Cross appeal, the Salvation Army, Wires, Port Macquarie Koala Hospital, your state Rural Fire Service. Whoever. Do your research and donate wisely.
On top of this, once the smoke clears, grab your mates or family, jump in the car and visit these towns, spend money in their shops, stay the night, help get their local economy's back on track. They will need our support.Ā
Finally, to all of my firefighting brethren back home in Sydney, the Blue Mountains and the whole east coast, both career and volunteer, I know you've worked harder in the last 6 weeks than you've ever worked in your entire life and I'm so immensely proud of you all. Stay safe.ā
Donations sent to Givit and Kangaroo Island Wildlife Park yesterday.Ā Wish I could send more than I did; I'll never sniff wealth but I had to help even in a small way.Ā Please stay safe out there, my Aussie friends!
Did you see the pictures of Fran Josef Glacier in NZ?Ā The snow is brown.Ā It's 2000km away!!Ā (For fellow Americans, that's like a fire from Kansas City covering Manhattan in ash.)
Donations sent to Givit and Kangaroo Island Wildlife Park yesterday.Ā Wish I could send more than I did; I'll never sniff wealth but I had to help even in a small way.Ā Please stay safe out there, my Aussie friends!
Did you see the pictures of Fran Josef Glacier in NZ?Ā The snow is brown.Ā It's 2000km away!!Ā (For fellow Americans, that's like a fire from Kansas City covering Manhattan in ash.)
Sad that we have had this type fire now in northern, mid coast, central coast and now south coast NSW. VIC. S.A..... QLD, W.A & TAS have also suffered but not to the extent of the first few states. Northern Territory has also had its fair share of fire. Of the pockets we had left of national parks and major forests in NSW majority of it is goneš
Donations sent to Givit and Kangaroo Island Wildlife Park yesterday.Ā Wish I could send more than I did; I'll never sniff wealth but I had to help even in a small way.Ā Please stay safe out there, my Aussie friends!
Thank you so much! You are a champion!
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
Did you see the pictures of Fran Josef Glacier in NZ?Ā The snow is brown.Ā It's 2000km away!!Ā (For fellow Americans, that's like a fire from Kansas City covering Manhattan in ash.)
OMG I have not seen this before. Sorry to NZ. I hope the NZ government puts pressure on our stupid PM.
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It is getting in the house. Hard to breath outside.
No chance of hanging the washing out to dry our working outside.
F**K YOU SCOMO!
Itās just an absolute horrific roller coaster of emotions, and thereās no real end in sight.
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
āPut yer good money on the sunriseā
(Tim Rogers)
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
āPut yer good money on the sunriseā
(Tim Rogers)
āAlright. A lot of people have asked. I'm a Firefighter in Australia. Let's talk about the fires.
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
āPut yer good money on the sunriseā
(Tim Rogers)
Sorry to NZ. I hope the NZ government puts pressure on our stupid PM.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-thirsty-koalas-devastated-by-recent-fires?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&fbclid=IwAR1kFNU7NBFO2q27DskQnWA8wtMEH6Rw442fexl43i1V6v-r9uD_MqxnFs8