Pearl Jam is returning to Europe in 2020

PJNB

kst said:

There are conflicting reports on whether the Olympics have been postponed or are soon to be postponed.  Either way it doesn’t look good.

I think it will soon. The athletes have spoke. They are locked at home unable to train right now. Even if (big if) it was viable to have in Japan this summer the athletes would not be at the level they need to be to compete. 

dresi_4

one_stone said:

I habe been very positive about the tour happening for quite some time (June is a few month away) but sitting here semi quarantined in Austria watching what happening just 300km away in Italy I think Summer Tours will definitely be cancelled... We can just hope that we don't get hit as hard as Italy here but the case numbers are growing... The most reliable news I saw that shuts down touring was, that the Czech Republic will close their borders for at least the next 6 month from now on. (Source: Main Austrian News Agency - sorry only in German... https://orf.at/stories/3158919/)

Yep, it's possible that borders will remain closed for the rest of the year. Germany also saying that some measures will last into the next year. Maybe there will be some exceptions within the Schengen zone but probably not for US citizens. 

matt84

Hope the Europe tour happens next Summer. I think a lot of people would struggle financially to get to these gigs if they were postponed till later in the year.

PJNB

matt84 said:

Hope the Europe tour happens next Summer. I think a lot of people would struggle financially to get to these gigs if they were postponed till later in the year.

Everything is already payed for with me aside for food of course. We went non refundable on a lot of our travels to save some money. Great idea looking back at it. If they are cancelled my wife and I get a credit of $1400 each to use before Dec 1st 2020 for another flight with Air Canada. That is if they even deem it ok to give credits for the summer when the there is a chance the travel bans maybe lifted. We were credited for our spring tour flights too from Air Canada. When it is all said and done we will have over $2000 each to spend on flights before the end of the year. Mine is closer to $3000. 

On top of that we will have to try and get a SwissAir flight and Lot Air flight refunded which is likely to never happen so that money is likely to be gone and I bet they get huge bailouts from the government on top of our money they will have. Not sure I can afford to not go at this point and this is coming from someone that had to close their business down over a week ago. Wish you the best on your finances this is going to be a rough one for a lot of us. It sure would be nice if and when these dates get moved we could just carry over our travel plans. 

RatherStarved

Zac Brown Band has cancelled not postponed their remaining 2020 dates.  Even if PJ Europe 2020 becomes PJ Europe 2021 that would be much better than outright cancellation.  In fact having this tour to look forward to would be an excellent thing to have.

BlueLedbetter

kst said:

Zac Brown Band has cancelled not postponed their remaining 2020 dates.  Even if PJ Europe 2020 becomes PJ Europe 2021 that would be much better than outright cancellation.  In fact having this tour to look forward to would be an excellent thing to have.

I think that's the best we can hope for everything put back 12 months same venues etc wherever possible 

JPPJ84

BlueLedbetter said:

kst said:

Zac Brown Band has cancelled not postponed their remaining 2020 dates.  Even if PJ Europe 2020 becomes PJ Europe 2021 that would be much better than outright cancellation.  In fact having this tour to look forward to would be an excellent thing to have.

I think that's the best we can hope for everything put back 12 months same venues etc wherever possible 

Absolutely! And they did say the tickets will be honored so that’s good, even if the new shows are a year later

PJNB

Claptons May/June Euro tour pushed to Spring 2021.

RatherStarved

JPPJ84 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

kst said:

Zac Brown Band has cancelled not postponed their remaining 2020 dates.  Even if PJ Europe 2020 becomes PJ Europe 2021 that would be much better than outright cancellation.  In fact having this tour to look forward to would be an excellent thing to have.

I think that's the best we can hope for everything put back 12 months same venues etc wherever possible 

Absolutely! And they did say the tickets will be honored so that’s good, even if the new shows are a year later

They said if they were to postpone the tickets would still be valid.  They did not say they would necessarily postpone as opposed to cancel.  I hope that part was implied.

pdalowsky

kst said:

Zac Brown Band has cancelled not postponed their remaining 2020 dates.  Even if PJ Europe 2020 becomes PJ Europe 2021 that would be much better than outright cancellation.  In fact having this tour to look forward to would be an excellent thing to have.

putting it back a year is arguably a cancellation of sorts. On a new album release we could possibly have expected another short run in Europe next summer around the festivals again.....

pdalowsky

and I'm not complaining I should add.

bootlegger10

pdalowsky said:

kst said:

Zac Brown Band has cancelled not postponed their remaining 2020 dates.  Even if PJ Europe 2020 becomes PJ Europe 2021 that would be much better than outright cancellation.  In fact having this tour to look forward to would be an excellent thing to have.

putting it back a year is arguably a cancellation of sorts. On a new album release we could possibly have expected another short run in Europe next summer around the festivals again.....

Right.  

PJNB

I highly doubt we would have had back to back Europe tours. Seems like every two years has been the norm lately with the 2016 tour that was supposed to happen that did not. If and when the tour is cancelled/postponed I hope the rescheduled dates take into consideration that the order of shows matter for a lot of us. The spicy 3 still need to be back to back to back imo if possible for example and other runs need to be together as well I would hope for travellers that stacked multiple shows together. Yes worse things to worry about right now but I hope its considered if they reschedule.

Also people saying the best case scenario is a tour next summer. I am still sticking to a best case scenario is a world that we can have concerts this summer however unlikely that is to be. That is the best case scenario whether you are comfortable yourself to go to a concert or not. These guys will make the right decision when they think they need to and I know it will be the right one as was the spring tour decision. 

pdalowsky

PJNB said:

I highly doubt we would have had back to back Europe tours. Seems like every two years has been the norm lately with the 2016 tour that was supposed to happen that did not. If and when the tour is cancelled/postponed I hope the rescheduled dates take into consideration that the order of shows matter for a lot of us. The spicy 3 still need to be back to back to back imo if possible for example and other runs need to be together as well I would hope for travellers that stacked multiple shows together. Yes worse things to worry about right now but I hope its considered if they reschedule.

Also people saying the best case scenario is a tour next summer. I am still sticking to a best case scenario is a world that we can have concerts this summer however unlikely that is to be. That is the best case scenario whether you are comfortable yourself to go to a concert or not. These guys will make the right decision when they think they need to and I know it will be the right one as was the spring tour decision. 

I know this isnt 2009 anymore but that was the case in 2009 and 2010 with the Backspacer release, the band were active in the promotion. USA tours in 2013 and 2014 off the back of LB. It all depends on timing of the release I guess and the demand from big festivals....

either way if this year doesnt happen, and next year does, the likely tour we would maybe have got in 2022 wont happen so the same logic applies LOL

PJNB

pdalowsky said:

PJNB said:

I highly doubt we would have had back to back Europe tours. Seems like every two years has been the norm lately with the 2016 tour that was supposed to happen that did not. If and when the tour is cancelled/postponed I hope the rescheduled dates take into consideration that the order of shows matter for a lot of us. The spicy 3 still need to be back to back to back imo if possible for example and other runs need to be together as well I would hope for travellers that stacked multiple shows together. Yes worse things to worry about right now but I hope its considered if they reschedule.

Also people saying the best case scenario is a tour next summer. I am still sticking to a best case scenario is a world that we can have concerts this summer however unlikely that is to be. That is the best case scenario whether you are comfortable yourself to go to a concert or not. These guys will make the right decision when they think they need to and I know it will be the right one as was the spring tour decision. 

I know this isnt 2009 anymore but that was the case in 2009 and 2010 with the Backspacer release, the band were active in the promotion. USA tours in 2013 and 2014 off the back of LB. It all depends on timing of the release I guess and the demand from big festivals....

either way if this year doesnt happen, and next year does, the likely tour we would maybe have got in 2022 wont happen so the same logic applies LOL

It does for sure lol. Who knows what we have in store for us in the next 18 months from these guys. We went from the biggest touring year since 2006 to a big question mark of whats next. South America and Australia need some love too soon. Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out. Maybe we get back to back Europe 2021/2022 and back on track with the even years. 

JPPJ84

kst said:

JPPJ84 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

kst said:

Zac Brown Band has cancelled not postponed their remaining 2020 dates.  Even if PJ Europe 2020 becomes PJ Europe 2021 that would be much better than outright cancellation.  In fact having this tour to look forward to would be an excellent thing to have.

I think that's the best we can hope for everything put back 12 months same venues etc wherever possible 

Absolutely! And they did say the tickets will be honored so that’s good, even if the new shows are a year later

They said if they were to postpone the tickets would still be valid.  They did not say they would necessarily postpone as opposed to cancel.  I hope that part was implied.

Don't make me panic! I read it as "IF we have to postpone, opposed to being able to play". With a new album out, luckily they'll absolutely want to play Europe.

And PJNB, I agree, of course this year is the best case scenario!! It sucks for all people who put so much money in it.

Reelingiswhattheysay

Do ppl actually think i SHOULDNT cancel Europe at this point?? I know I should but my will to live is not allowing me to pull the trigger.  I'm so fucking sad, as I'm sure you all are.  It was my honeymoon trip saved money, put aside even while I was planning my wedding last year BEFORE IT WAS EVEN ANNOUNCED, knowing that whenever they came back to Europe we would finally go and call it our Honeymoon.  I'm so fucking sad :(

PJNB

Reelingiswhattheysay said:

Do ppl actually think i SHOULDNT cancel Europe at this point?? I know I should but my will to live is not allowing me to pull the trigger.  I'm so fucking sad, as I'm sure you all are.  It was my honeymoon trip saved money, put aside even while I was planning my wedding last year BEFORE IT WAS EVEN ANNOUNCED, knowing that whenever they came back to Europe we would finally go and call it our Honeymoon.  I'm so fucking sad :(

Sorry to hear this. This is how I would weigh my options if I were you. For me personally I would wait till the announcement to make cancelations but you mention "my will to live" which I am not sure I get. Are you saying if the tour is on and the world is better that you still will fear the virus enough to not make the trip?

- What do you benefit canceling now over canceling if and when they finally make the announcement?
- Can you live with canceling now and the small chance the tour happens and now you are likely not going to go do to inflated traveling prices?
- Can you not just delay your honeymoon a year from now when the likely new dates will be made?

Reelingiswhattheysay

PJNB said:

Reelingiswhattheysay said:

Do ppl actually think i SHOULDNT cancel Europe at this point?? I know I should but my will to live is not allowing me to pull the trigger.  I'm so fucking sad, as I'm sure you all are.  It was my honeymoon trip saved money, put aside even while I was planning my wedding last year BEFORE IT WAS EVEN ANNOUNCED, knowing that whenever they came back to Europe we would finally go and call it our Honeymoon.  I'm so fucking sad :(

Sorry to hear this. This is how I would weigh my options if I were you. For me personally I would wait till the announcement to make cancelations but you mention "my will to live" which I am not sure I get. Are you saying if the tour is on and the world is better that you still will fear the virus enough to not make the trip?

- What do you benefit canceling now over canceling if and when they finally make the announcement?
- Can you live with canceling now and the small chance the tour happens and now you are likely not going to go do to inflated traveling prices?
- Can you not just delay your honeymoon a year from now when the likely new dates will be made?

Shoot I didn't even think of my words taking that way - but how appropriate!! Wow! What I meant is my will to live is equal to my will to go to these shows!!

I can't Imagine Italy is going to happen... Vienna??? I can delay a year of course I would but that delays a lot of other stuff a year too that we were planning :( 

RatherStarved

I agree with PJNB that unless there is something to gain by cancelling now you may as well wait and see.  

As far as honeymoon, I know someone who was supposed to go on honeymoon shortly after 9/11.  They deferred their honeymoon and 19 years later are still going strong!

PJNB

Download Festival just cancelled. It was almost exactly 1 month before Hyde Park. 

RatherStarved

Wimbledon is also talking about cancelling.

Pretty much the only festivals that haven’t cancelled are the ones on the PJ tour.  My best guess is PJ doesn’t want any cancellations the week of the album release.  I get that.  The whole situation is really unimaginable.

I’d anticipate announcements next week and hope it’s just a postponement.  

whitepants

It's nearing the end of March and I'm on pins and needles waiting for word if the Hyde Park London concert will be canceled outright, or postponed to July of 2021. If the show is still on for this year, I'll happily attend as I'll be desperate to attend a public event in my favorite city on Earth. But if there are still travel and crowd size restrictions, it should be postponed until next year, with our tickets being good for the new date.

RatherStarved

My prediction on the Hyde Park PJ show:

Postponed:  50%
Cancelled:  49.9%
Proceeds as scheduled:  0.1%

aurelgugus

According to a French DJ who is generally well informed, announcement will be made about the postponement of the European leg to 2021...Bu maybe it’s only about Lolapalooza Paris ...

JABK

aurelgugus said:

According to a French DJ who is generally well informed, announcement will be made about the postponement of the European leg to 2021...Bu maybe it’s only about Lolapalooza Paris ...

I hope when the postponement comes that they don't wait until december to announce the new dates...just announce them as soon as they have the new dates. That should give people more time to save money and get better airfares.

RatherStarved

Postponement is better than cancellation.  I think it will be the whole tour as opposed to show by show.  And yes, the sooner they could announce the new dates, the better.  And hopefully the order of the shows stays the same for people planning to travel to a few in a row.

D-Rod

kst said:

I agree with PJNB that unless there is something to gain by cancelling now you may as well wait and see.  

As far as honeymoon, I know someone who was supposed to go on honeymoon shortly after 9/11.  They deferred their honeymoon and 19 years later are still going strong!

I know the feeling.  Got married Oct 6th 2001.  Took our honeymoon January 2003.  And yes still going strong 

Muffin The Mule

kst said:

My prediction on the Hyde Park PJ show:

Postponed:  50%
Cancelled:  49.9%
Proceeds as scheduled:  0.1%

It's not going to happen, not with the current prediction of this lockdown lasting until September.

BlueLedbetter

Unfortunately the question is will it be postponed or cancelled there is no way it's going ahead as planned