2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors
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bootlegger10 said:Lost In Ohio said:I just wish they'd play Columbus. Easy road access from Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, DC, NYC...direct flights from Seattle, DC...
A drive from Boston is easy...the flight is easier.
We're within a day's drive of some ungodly percentage of the US population...and even Toronto, too.
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bootlegger10 said:mr bungle said:UtahBolt said:erebus said:Dimi had a bunch of “U”’s highlighted in a post the other day.... could it be a hint for Utah?
I hear you.. But a lot has changed in 11 years.. They are now a "legacy act" for the casual fans and are drawing much bigger demand than even 5-10 years ago.. I think they could sell out the Vivint smart arena easily now?
yep.. They have graduated to "bucket list band" for the casual fan or just a music fan that hasn't seen them perform before. So us die hard 10clubbers have to battle each other for tickets, and also the casuals.
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incidental immortality said:Lerxst1992 said:bgirl59 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Lerxst1992 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Brisk. said:how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?
.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.
NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably for Baltimore
A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ.Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.
If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)
tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.
If you enter NYC GA as your tenth choice your chance of getting tickets is 0%. Historically the GA for high demand shows doesn't get past the #1 choice pool. But the odds tool doesn't provide data broken up by choice order (it doesn't seem too hard to provide this breakdown).
For an example, say there are 2000 pairs of GA ticket for a show. The club gets 5000 entries in the 1st choice pool, 2500 entries in the 2nd choice pool, and 2500 entries in the 3rd and higher pools. That's a total of 10000 entries for 2000 pairs of tickets. The odds tool should report 2000/10000 = 0.2 = 20%. But the odds actually are 40% for the first choice pool and 0% for everyone else.Thanks for going thru this, you said it very clearly.
I commented about first pick odds because quite a few out of town fans are saying wouldn’t it be cool to see them in Balt or NY
My point is if you are not near the east coast or live near California, the way this tour is shaping up, picking NY or Balt is almost like throwing your pick away if it’s just as easy for a fan to see them anywhere else
Lets say 100,000 fans want to see a show east of the Mississippi and another 100,000 fans want to see a show west of the Mississippi. Let’s assume each group will equally divide their selections for either the 2 East shows or 6 Cali/LV shows. Let’s also assume there will be 3000 winning GA draws per show to simplify. So westerners will have six rounds of picks and easterners will have two shows picked. But in reality for these shows only pick one will matter.
This comes to about 17000 fans per west coast show and 50,000 fans per East coast show hoping for a winning draw. Since it’s likely all tickets will be gone in round one, the odds are fairly reasonable out west at 18% and in the east at 6%, even if the 10 club has both officially listed at 3%.
the odds are probably even lower for the eastern shows for two reasons:
1- population density in the east is much greater = more fans wanting in. Plus Europe fans willing to try NY2- one of the 2 East venues is extremely small; and the other is notorious for industry insiders grabbing tons of tickets for themselves limiting total available for fans.Post edited by Lerxst1992 on0 -
Short tours in the US. It is going to be very difficult to get even one pair of tickets from the 10C going forward, especially if going after a major market.
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dimitrispearljam said:jdizzle8291 said:Lerxst1992 said:dimitrispearljam said:molecule said:@dimitrispearljam does NY state=1?
Heres the hint. In retrospect very well could be SNL.0 -
Omg.... no announcement yet and all the moaning about not getting tickets! Get a life people, the continent of Australia and a billion living things on it is under attack by firestorms ..... perspective...0
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incidental immortality said:gotthebottle said:incidental immortality said:Lerxst1992 said:bgirl59 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Lerxst1992 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Brisk. said:how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?
.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.
NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably for Baltimore
A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ.Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.
If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)
tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.
If you enter NYC GA as your tenth choice your chance of getting tickets is 0%. Historically the GA for high demand shows doesn't get past the #1 choice pool. But the odds tool doesn't provide data broken up by choice order (it doesn't seem too hard to provide this breakdown).
For an example, say there are 2000 pairs of GA ticket for a show. The club gets 5000 entries in the 1st choice pool, 2500 entries in the 2nd choice pool, and 2500 entries in the 3rd and higher pools. That's a total of 10000 entries for 2000 pairs of tickets. The odds tool should report 2000/10000 = 0.2 = 20%. But the odds actually are 40% for the first choice pool and 0% for everyone else.
1. Review the show dates and cities. Decide how many of the shows you'd like to attend and rank each on how critical it is for you to attend.
2. Decide if you need GA or can also go for Reserved. Reserved in NA generally has better odds than GA. Also, many members choose to enter GA as their first option and Reserved as their second. So, if you go Reserved as your #1 choice you will have a distinct odds advantage.
3. Halfway through the entry period review the current odds in the tool.
4. For shows with lower odds (<10%) it would be a risk making the show anything past your first choice.
5. For shows with good odds (>75%) you may be able to get away with making them your 2nd or 3rd choice.
6. For shows with great odds (>90%) you will likely get tickets with any choice.
7. A GA entry any lower than 1st choice for a high demand show is a wasted entry. You'd be better served picking Reserved for a high demand show as #1 and GA for a low demand show as #2.
8. For cities with more than one date, the club typically only allows you to win tickets for one of the dates. If you use four entries for the two nights (GA night 1, Reserved night 1, GA night 2, and Reserved night 2) it is likely that three of your choices would be voided. If you prefer GA your best option would be to choose the night with the best GA odds as #1 the Reserved with the best odds as #2.
9. Balance your desire for a show versus your odds to get tickets. It may be better for you to take the risk of a low odds draw for a show in your backyard versus a good odds show elsewhere.
10. Make your entries well in advance with the understanding that you can change them prior to the end of the entry period.
11. A ticket buddy really does help. You can get better odds for a single show or better chance of getting tickets to multiple shows. Just be prepared to get two pairs if you both enter for the same show.
12. As many have written, your Ten Club number doesn't affect your odds. It only affects your seat choice if you choose reserved.
13. If the draw is done how it has been in the past, there is one important aspect for you to understand. The club assigns ALL of the GA tickets before drawing Reserved. In most cases, this isn't big deal. But for low demand shows there may be fewer 1st priority GA requests than there are available tickets. So, they will go to the 2nd choice pool. This means that if you have Reserved as #1 and GA is #2 there is a chance that you will get GA over reserved. So, if you don't want GA then the best option would be to leave it off your entry list.
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incidental immortality said:gotthebottle said:incidental immortality said:Lerxst1992 said:bgirl59 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Lerxst1992 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Brisk. said:how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?
.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.
NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably for Baltimore
A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ.Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.
If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)
tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.
If you enter NYC GA as your tenth choice your chance of getting tickets is 0%. Historically the GA for high demand shows doesn't get past the #1 choice pool. But the odds tool doesn't provide data broken up by choice order (it doesn't seem too hard to provide this breakdown).
For an example, say there are 2000 pairs of GA ticket for a show. The club gets 5000 entries in the 1st choice pool, 2500 entries in the 2nd choice pool, and 2500 entries in the 3rd and higher pools. That's a total of 10000 entries for 2000 pairs of tickets. The odds tool should report 2000/10000 = 0.2 = 20%. But the odds actually are 40% for the first choice pool and 0% for everyone else.
1. Review the show dates and cities. Decide how many of the shows you'd like to attend and rank each on how critical it is for you to attend.
2. Decide if you need GA or can also go for Reserved. Reserved in NA generally has better odds than GA. Also, many members choose to enter GA as their first option and Reserved as their second. So, if you go Reserved as your #1 choice you will have a distinct odds advantage.
3. Halfway through the entry period review the current odds in the tool.
4. For shows with lower odds (<10%) it would be a risk making the show anything past your first choice.
5. For shows with good odds (>75%) you may be able to get away with making them your 2nd or 3rd choice.
6. For shows with great odds (>90%) you will likely get tickets with any choice.
7. A GA entry any lower than 1st choice for a high demand show is a wasted entry. You'd be better served picking Reserved for a high demand show as #1 and GA for a low demand show as #2.
8. For cities with more than one date, the club typically only allows you to win tickets for one of the dates. If you use four entries for the two nights (GA night 1, Reserved night 1, GA night 2, and Reserved night 2) it is likely that three of your choices would be voided. If you prefer GA your best option would be to choose the night with the best GA odds as #1 the Reserved with the best odds as #2.
9. Balance your desire for a show versus your odds to get tickets. It may be better for you to take the risk of a low odds draw for a show in your backyard versus a good odds show elsewhere.
10. Make your entries well in advance with the understanding that you can change them prior to the end of the entry period.
11. A ticket buddy really does help. You can get better odds for a single show or better chance of getting tickets to multiple shows. Just be prepared to get two pairs if you both enter for the same show.
12. As many have written, your Ten Club number doesn't affect your odds. It only affects your seat choice if you choose reserved.
13. If the draw is done how it has been in the past, there is one important aspect for you to understand. The club assigns ALL of the GA tickets before drawing Reserved. In most cases, this isn't big deal. But for low demand shows there may be fewer 1st priority GA requests than there are available tickets. So, they will go to the 2nd choice pool. This means that if you have Reserved as #1 and GA is #2 there is a chance that you will get GA over reserved. So, if you don't want GA then the best option would be to leave it off your entry list.
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Cristina2332 said:incidental immortality said:gotthebottle said:incidental immortality said:Lerxst1992 said:bgirl59 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Lerxst1992 said:SpinTheLastExit said:Brisk. said:how sure are we NYC is getting a show on 3/30?
.That NYC date has been solid on the forum for weeks, and IIRC more than one reliable source.
NYC is typically the most expensive most difficult ticket. I’m expecting odds of two percent and resale prices well north of $500. Same probably for Baltimore
A few Europe arena shows had face value tickets available as of a few days ago, if that’s an option.My best guess is Spin is from Europe and NYC airports are the gateway to many North American flights from Europe that need to change planes at NY. It is unexpected to read that because everything around NY is crazy expensive, including PJ tix. If they are playing multiple Cali shows that might be your best bet for your first 10c pick since you’re in AZ.Remember if only 2 shows east of the Mississippi, that’s splitting hundreds of thousands of member numbers by two, and half of those member picks will be a first round pick.
If their are 5 Cali shows plus another west show in Vegas or somewhere else, that’s splitting the lottery into six different pots, and only a 17% chance that members are picking the Cali/west show you want to win tickets for as their first round pick (assuming each Cali show has comparable demand)
tl;dr - East coast real odds will be low, even for first round picks. Cali shows will have low odds, but much better chance that if your first pick is Cali you will win tickets.
If you enter NYC GA as your tenth choice your chance of getting tickets is 0%. Historically the GA for high demand shows doesn't get past the #1 choice pool. But the odds tool doesn't provide data broken up by choice order (it doesn't seem too hard to provide this breakdown).
For an example, say there are 2000 pairs of GA ticket for a show. The club gets 5000 entries in the 1st choice pool, 2500 entries in the 2nd choice pool, and 2500 entries in the 3rd and higher pools. That's a total of 10000 entries for 2000 pairs of tickets. The odds tool should report 2000/10000 = 0.2 = 20%. But the odds actually are 40% for the first choice pool and 0% for everyone else.
1. Review the show dates and cities. Decide how many of the shows you'd like to attend and rank each on how critical it is for you to attend.
2. Decide if you need GA or can also go for Reserved. Reserved in NA generally has better odds than GA. Also, many members choose to enter GA as their first option and Reserved as their second. So, if you go Reserved as your #1 choice you will have a distinct odds advantage.
3. Halfway through the entry period review the current odds in the tool.
4. For shows with lower odds (<10%) it would be a risk making the show anything past your first choice.
5. For shows with good odds (>75%) you may be able to get away with making them your 2nd or 3rd choice.
6. For shows with great odds (>90%) you will likely get tickets with any choice.
7. A GA entry any lower than 1st choice for a high demand show is a wasted entry. You'd be better served picking Reserved for a high demand show as #1 and GA for a low demand show as #2.
8. For cities with more than one date, the club typically only allows you to win tickets for one of the dates. If you use four entries for the two nights (GA night 1, Reserved night 1, GA night 2, and Reserved night 2) it is likely that three of your choices would be voided. If you prefer GA your best option would be to choose the night with the best GA odds as #1 the Reserved with the best odds as #2.
9. Balance your desire for a show versus your odds to get tickets. It may be better for you to take the risk of a low odds draw for a show in your backyard versus a good odds show elsewhere.
10. Make your entries well in advance with the understanding that you can change them prior to the end of the entry period.
11. A ticket buddy really does help. You can get better odds for a single show or better chance of getting tickets to multiple shows. Just be prepared to get two pairs if you both enter for the same show.
12. As many have written, your Ten Club number doesn't affect your odds. It only affects your seat choice if you choose reserved.
13. If the draw is done how it has been in the past, there is one important aspect for you to understand. The club assigns ALL of the GA tickets before drawing Reserved. In most cases, this isn't big deal. But for low demand shows there may be fewer 1st priority GA requests than there are available tickets. So, they will go to the 2nd choice pool. This means that if you have Reserved as #1 and GA is #2 there is a chance that you will get GA over reserved. So, if you don't want GA then the best option would be to leave it off your entry list.
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Bentleyspop said:Lost In Ohio said:dimitrispearljam said:Get_Right said:Have they ever come to NYC just to do a television show with no other performance? I feel like they have. They wouldn't do that to us would they?
And the epic BALLS IN YOUR MOUTH!!https://youtu.be/pHvpPdD0KfU
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So here's my conundrum. I've been I the ten club for some time (300xxx). I generally like my seats. I always prefer reserved seats. But with the east only getting NYC and Baltimore I'm considering signing up my wife and putting her in the lottery for GA for both those shows. I definitely don't like my odds by myself. Is worth the $20 to sign her up to slightly increase my odds?0
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It's down to wise choices and luck. Winning the secondary lottery for the first 10 rows was truly lucky though.Soldier Field 7-11-95, Alpine Valley 6-26-98, United Center 6-29-98, Riverport Amphitheater (St. Louis)7-2-98, MGM Grand Arena 10-22-00, Sprint Center (Kansas City)5-3-10, Adams Event Center (Missoula)9-30-12, Wrigley Field 7-19-13, Jobing.com Arena (Phoenix)11-19-13, Moda Center (Portland)11-29-13, Spokane Arena 11-30-13, Pepsi Center (Denver)10-22-14, Gila River Arena (Phoenix)5-9-22, Moody Center (Austin)9-18-23, Moody Center 9-19-23, Rogers Arena (Vancouver)5-4-24, Rogers Arena 5-6-24, MGM Grand 5-16-24, MGM Grand 5-18-24, Wrigley Field 8-29-24, Wrigley Field 8-31-24, Nashville 5-6-25, Nashville 5-8-250
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tdawe said:incidental immortality said:Spoonman110 said:Let’s see people’s opinions:
My wife and I both have 10C numbers (mine being quite a bit lower). For the upcoming Spring tour we were thinking of each entering the lottery for tickets, hoping for as many GAs as possible (Nashville, two Canadian shows). What is the best way to do this? My thought:My Entry:
1st - Nashville GA
2nd - Quebec City GA
3rd - Ottawa GA
4th - Nashville Reserved
5th - QC Reserved
6th - Ottawa Reserved
Her Entry:
1st - Nashville GA
2nd - QC GA
3rd - Ottawa GA
My thought here is that I should be the only one entering for reserved seats since my number is lower. And if we both happen to win GA tickets for the same show, we shouldn’t have too much trouble finding two people who want to tag along.Note: the order of the shows in our entries could differ depending on odds.
My Entry:
1st - Quebec City GA
2nd - Nashville Reserved
3rd - QC Reserved
4th - Ottawa Reserved
Her Entry:
1st - Nashville GA
2nd - Ottawa GA
This gives you a decent chance of getting GA for QC and Nashville and an outside shot of getting Ottawa GA. The only drawbacks I see would be you'd have a low overall chance for getting tickets to Ottawa. You have a chance of getting a double pair for any show but the biggest risk would be Nashville. But the odds tool will help you with the order.
The only thing I may change would move your 4th choice to her 3rd choice. You'd have a better chance to get reserved tickets to Ottawa with no chance of duplicate tickets. But that would depend on the odds and how bad her number is.If there are electronic tickets you would run the risk of having to eat at least one ticket. But for the ballpark shows the ushers really weren’t checking if the tickets were in your virtual wallet or just a screenshot.Boston (4/10/94), Hartford (10/2/96), Barre (8/22/98), Hartford (9/13/98), Mansfield (9/15/98 + 9/16/98), Mansfield (8/29/00 + 8/30/00), Mansfield (7/2/03 + 7/11/03), Boston (9/28/04), Hartford (5/13/06), Boston (5/24/06 + 5/25/06), Hartford (6/27/08), Mansfield (6/28/08 + 6/30/08), Philadelphia (10/31/09), Hartford (5/15/10), Worcester (10/15/13 + 10/16/13), Hartford (10/25/13), New York (5/1/16), Boston (8/5/16 + 8/7/16), Boston (9/2/18 + 9/4/18)0 -
JM144705 said:So here's my conundrum. I've been I the ten club for some time (300xxx). I generally like my seats. I always prefer reserved seats. But with the east only getting NYC and Baltimore I'm considering signing up my wife and putting her in the lottery for GA for both those shows. I definitely don't like my odds by myself. Is worth the $20 to sign her up to slightly increase my odds?
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220 -
If there are electronic tickets you would run the risk of having to eat at least one ticket. But for the ballpark shows the ushers really weren’t checking if the tickets were in your virtual wallet or just a screenshot.can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0
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OceansJenny said:JM144705 said:So here's my conundrum. I've been I the ten club for some time (300xxx). I generally like my seats. I always prefer reserved seats. But with the east only getting NYC and Baltimore I'm considering signing up my wife and putting her in the lottery for GA for both those shows. I definitely don't like my odds by myself. Is worth the $20 to sign her up to slightly increase my odds?0
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Looking at NYC and Balt as well - based on current speculated demand does this make sense or will the second GA be wasted? I haven’t put in for two high demand shows with GA options before.
1. NYC GA
2. NYC Res
3. Balt GA
4. Balt Res
Or should I go GA GA Res Res? And if I get shut out just go general sale?
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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