The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
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    100% Hugh, thank you.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited January 2020



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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited January 2020
    Sorry for the double post (I put this up on the Andrew Yang for President thread)  but this is the dem presidential debate and I AM this stoked!!   Yang qualified for the February debate!  We're on a roll!


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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 

    yeah, i was literally at a fundraiser for trans manitoba, listening to speakers, singers, etc, LAST NIGHT. sure, pal, you pegged me. LOL
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    don'tcha just love it when simple dissenting opinions leads to extreme forms of labeling? lol
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    find the quotes of his anti-trans stances. I'll wait.

    What I have heard him speak on specifically is trans women competing against born biological women. trans women have the unfair advantage of testosterone at work in their bodies until hormone therapy begins for that individual ,which doesnt negate the prior physical advantage testosterone has played.

    He is quite clear about adult trans people making choices for themselves, as in be who you are or feel you are. His issue is when parents of under 10 yrs make decisions about hormone therapy for those kids. He says support love and nurture these kids but let them make those decisions later once grown for themselves.
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mickeyrat said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    find the quotes of his anti-trans stances. I'll wait.

    What I have heard him speak on specifically is trans women competing against born biological women. trans women have the unfair advantage of testosterone at work in their bodies until hormone therapy begins for that individual ,which doesnt negate the prior physical advantage testosterone has played.

    He is quite clear about adult trans people making choices for themselves, as in be who you are or feel you are. His issue is when parents of under 10 yrs make decisions about hormone therapy for those kids. He says support love and nurture these kids but let them make those decisions later once grown for themselves.
    Both of those things are anti-trans. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 

    Struggling with your view here, so let me make sure I'm not just uninformed.  If Usain Bolt started taking hormone replacement therapy to transition to a woman, he (today) should be able to compete against cis women, and that's an equal playing field?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 

    yeah, i was literally at a fundraiser for trans manitoba, listening to speakers, singers, etc, LAST NIGHT. sure, pal, you pegged me. LOL
    How many of them did you talk to about your views on trans athletes?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 


    You obviously don't know where HFD is coming from.  Why are you bating like this?
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    brianlux said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 


    You obviously don't know where HFD is coming from.  Why are you bating like this?
    I don’t care where he’s coming from. I care that he’s spouting anti-trans nonsense. That’s not baiting. I consider his views extremely harmful. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    edited January 2020
    I 100% agree with Hugh and there is no way that view is anti trans. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 

    Struggling with your view here, so let me make sure I'm not just uninformed.  If Usain Bolt started taking hormone replacement therapy to transition to a woman, he (today) should be able to compete against cis women, and that's an equal playing field?
    i asked the same thing using brock lesnar as an example. crickets. this whole all encompassing "you need to let (x group of people) do what they want or you are anti-(that group)!". it's nonsense. 

    moving on.
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    I 100% agree with Hugh and there is no way that view is anti trans. 
    Sorry, man, I’ll defer to the experts over internet Hugh. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 

    Struggling with your view here, so let me make sure I'm not just uninformed.  If Usain Bolt started taking hormone replacement therapy to transition to a woman, he (today) should be able to compete against cis women, and that's an equal playing field?
    i asked the same thing using brock lesnar as an example. crickets. this whole all encompassing "you need to let (x group of people) do what they want or you are anti-(that group)!". it's nonsense. 

    moving on.
    Trans women are women. Period. What’s left to discuss?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    so by your logic champ, being protrans in this instance makes you anti-women
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    ecdanc said:
    brianlux said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ecdanc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rogan doesn't hate the left. that's laughable. he also isn't fucking transphobe. that's also just a talking point for outrage seekers. 
    Buying into birtherism shows a lack of judgment though.  
    that's the first i heard of that. that's admittedly a little concerning. 
    Wait, you’re cool with his anti-trans bullshit, but you draw the line at birtherism?
    he's not anti-trans. i've listened to him talk a lot about it, and he has no issue with people being trans. he has issues with trans women competing against cis women in sports, which i agree with. imagine if brock lesnar was a trans woman. you think that's a level playing field?
    That’s anti-trans, champ. 
    no it isn't champ, it's common sense biology. 
    Really doubling down on your own transphobia. Bold move. 


    You obviously don't know where HFD is coming from.  Why are you bating like this?
    I don’t care where he’s coming from. I care that he’s spouting anti-trans nonsense. That’s not baiting. I consider his views extremely harmful. 
    how is it harmful to cite science? maybe instead of a women's division and men's division in sports, we create a more all-inclusive based on physical attributes or other types of criteria instead of just penis or vagina?
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