Where would you rather live the US or Sweden

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    RYME said:
    Then Sweden should be focused on making Sweden great again.  Manufacture some hats that say MAKE SWEDEN GREAT AGAIN
    Saw this cap at a John Fogerty show:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,136
    Anywhere other than planet earth
    Swedes love the  snus. For a healthy clean living country.  That suprised me on visiting 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    Swedes love the  snus. For a healthy clean living country.  That suprised me on visiting 

    Charlie Adam: Snus is the ‘in thing’ at all levels

    “It’s big in the game, not just Premier League, League One, League Two, Championship, Scotland…” he told BBC 5 Live.“It’s come in from Scandinavia really and a lot of the players are using it. It’s the in thing.”

    https://www.football365.com/news/charlie-adam-snus-thing-levels

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2019
    U.S.A.
    Renfield said:
    RYME said:
    Then your mom and her side will know what it is.  My wife's mom makes it for us when we visit LT. every 2 years.  And that's about as often as she makes it.  Every 2 years lol.because whatever they do to those potatos (run through a grinder, remove moisture, stuff the meat in the center of those things & then boil them in big pot. is a lengthy process.  Nothing easy about it it takes her all day pretty much.  
    Cold beet soup is another good one my wife makes once in a while.  Not nearly as hard to make.
    Check it out
    https://myfoododyssey.com/2013/09/21/lithuanian-saltibarsciai-cold-beet-soup-recipe/

    Cold Borscht! I grew up around it, my mom and grandparents loved it. I always turned my nose up at it. This is what our version looked like.



    Oh come on,,lol Thats an awful picture of it there are a lot better-looking versions more pinkish with the hard boiled egg.  That one looks like blood soup for sure with a huge blob of sour cream floating in it yuck....hahaha...
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  • ConorKavanaghConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    Sweden
    I'd love to live in Sweden. I went to Way Out West in 2015 and had such an enjoyable experience. I found everyone to be so polite and it felt very safe. Things are more expensive than they are where I come from, but I could live with that I'm sure. I'll return there again before too long.
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  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    Sweden
    RYME said:
    Renfield said:
    RYME said:
    Then your mom and her side will know what it is.  My wife's mom makes it for us when we visit LT. every 2 years.  And that's about as often as she makes it.  Every 2 years lol.because whatever they do to those potatos (run through a grinder, remove moisture, stuff the meat in the center of those things & then boil them in big pot. is a lengthy process.  Nothing easy about it it takes her all day pretty much.  
    Cold beet soup is another good one my wife makes once in a while.  Not nearly as hard to make.
    Check it out
    https://myfoododyssey.com/2013/09/21/lithuanian-saltibarsciai-cold-beet-soup-recipe/

    Cold Borscht! I grew up around it, my mom and grandparents loved it. I always turned my nose up at it. This is what our version looked like.



    Oh come on,,lol Thats an awful picture of it there are a lot better-looking versions more pinkish with the hard boiled egg.  That one looks like blood soup for sure with a huge blob of sour cream floating in it yuck....hahaha...
    Reminds me of a yummy cherry soup we do here...


  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    U.S.A.
    I looked online.  There are exactly 0 photos that make that look good.  Yuck.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    I looked online.  There are exactly 0 photos that make that look good.  Yuck.
    This looks good. And is how it is suppose to look (with meat added for those to want that).


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    I'd love to live in Sweden. I went to Way Out West in 2015 and had such an enjoyable experience. I found everyone to be so polite and it felt very safe. Things are more expensive than they are where I come from, but I could live with that I'm sure. I'll return there again before too long.
    Where are you from, and why did you go to WOW in 2015? Pet shop boys? Beck?

    Things being "expensive" is relative. It's like people (not you) seem to think people in Sweden can't go outside because of everything being expensive. It's not like we built a system that doesn't work to live in. Oh, a pair of Levis is cheaper in the US and a beer cost a bit less - then people living on wages they can't survive on and going bankrupt when they get sick is all worth it. 

    Well here we have decent wages and we don't go bankrupt when sick - and those who need a pair of Levis can buy them and everyone drinks beer. 

    Might be more expensive to be a tourist in. But by all metrics and all common sense Sweden seems to have built a society with a better balance than the US. And on a more compassionate foundation. Instead of a "But, I am privileged enough to have a pool and a fence tall enough to not see the rest of society" foundation.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Anywhere but those 3
    bbiggs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    Only 2 choices in the entire USA? Seems weird. I guess it’s probably you just don’t know enough.

    If I had to move to Canada, I don’t know enough to know where to move and where not  to. 

    I would think that Toronto and Vancouver would top my list. The east coast area would intrigue me. Montreal area would be pretty low on the list as well as remote areas.
    I don’t think I would ever want to live “in” Seattle or NYC.  East of Seattle somewhere in the mountains definitely and maybe somewhere close to NYC with a lot fewer people.  I’ve never actually been to NYC, but I hear it is dirty and smelly...Seattle was somewhat that way last time I visited.
    I'm definitely a city mouse. I want to be directly in or within a max half hour train ride of the city. I need that easy access to what cities offer (mainly for the music venues and dining options, and just for the energy/vibe of a big city). NYC isn't dirty IMO, for a city that size. It used to be apparently, but Ghouliani cleaned it up well, I'll give him that. I was impressed when I went there. A very beautiful city IMO. Now, of course their garbage pick up system is that all the garbage goes out onto the sidewalks throughout the day, and is picked up every night. This is because there is no other option. There are few back alleys in NYC, and most of them are fenced off (with barbed wire at the top of the fences) to prevent crime from happening in them, and to keep people from sleeping in them. So yeah, at least in warm weather, you can smell the garbage ... For me though, everything else that NYC offers easily offsets that minor (to me) issue. I do make a point of warning people who are going there and have never been though. I think seeing all that garbage out on the sidewalks can be a bit of shock if you weren't aware that is how it's done.
    Chicago has its flaws, no doubt, but it is a very clean city in comparison for the reasons you mention above. New York is a great city, but the trash in the streets is so unsanitary.
    NYC isn't dirty like a few of you have mentioned.

    We do have an increase in homeless though.
  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,516
    Anywhere other than planet earth
    I'd love to live in Sweden. I went to Way Out West in 2015 and had such an enjoyable experience. I found everyone to be so polite and it felt very safe. Things are more expensive than they are where I come from, but I could live with that I'm sure. I'll return there again before too long.
    Where are you from, and why did you go to WOW in 2015? Pet shop boys? Beck?

    Things being "expensive" is relative. It's like people (not you) seem to think people in Sweden can't go outside because of everything being expensive. It's not like we built a system that doesn't work to live in. Oh, a pair of Levis is cheaper in the US and a beer cost a bit less - then people living on wages they can't survive on and going bankrupt when they get sick is all worth it. 

    Well here we have decent wages and we don't go bankrupt when sick - and those who need a pair of Levis can buy them and everyone drinks beer. 

    Might be more expensive to be a tourist in. But by all metrics and all common sense Sweden seems to have built a society with a better balance than the US. And on a more compassionate foundation. Instead of a "But, I am privileged enough to have a pool and a fence tall enough to not see the rest of society" foundation.
    He's not a Big Bad American, so you did the friendly fire thing for nothing. :tongue:
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    I'd love to live in Sweden. I went to Way Out West in 2015 and had such an enjoyable experience. I found everyone to be so polite and it felt very safe. Things are more expensive than they are where I come from, but I could live with that I'm sure. I'll return there again before too long.
    Where are you from, and why did you go to WOW in 2015? Pet shop boys? Beck?

    Things being "expensive" is relative. It's like people (not you) seem to think people in Sweden can't go outside because of everything being expensive. It's not like we built a system that doesn't work to live in. Oh, a pair of Levis is cheaper in the US and a beer cost a bit less - then people living on wages they can't survive on and going bankrupt when they get sick is all worth it. 

    Well here we have decent wages and we don't go bankrupt when sick - and those who need a pair of Levis can buy them and everyone drinks beer. 

    Might be more expensive to be a tourist in. But by all metrics and all common sense Sweden seems to have built a society with a better balance than the US. And on a more compassionate foundation. Instead of a "But, I am privileged enough to have a pool and a fence tall enough to not see the rest of society" foundation.
    He's not a Big Bad American, so you did the friendly fire thing for nothing. :tongue:
    Notice the parenthesis on row three, 9 words in. :)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,516
    Anywhere other than planet earth
    You're a sly one, S_C. Looks like I did the friendly fire thing for nothing. 👍
  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,516
    Anywhere other than planet earth
    On the bright side, I've been looking for an excuse to post this...

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,299
    You're a sly one, S_C. Looks like I did the friendly fire thing for nothing. 👍
    pssst, thats about the only post like that....
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    mickeyrat said:
    You're a sly one, S_C. Looks like I did the friendly fire thing for nothing. 👍
    pssst, thats about the only post like that....
    Hey, aren't you the guy that were unable to read a simple post correctly and instead went on blasting a user based on you not being able to read correctly in the soccer tread? I seem to remember you.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,382
    U.S.A.
    On the bright side, I've been looking for an excuse to post this...

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  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    Sweden
    for the meatballs
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,299
    mickeyrat said:
    You're a sly one, S_C. Looks like I did the friendly fire thing for nothing. 👍
    pssst, thats about the only post like that....
    Hey, aren't you the guy that were unable to read a simple post correctly and instead went on blasting a user based on you not being able to read correctly in the soccer tread? I seem to remember you.
    I seem to remember you have yet to link the "current" comment you referenced. I searched. All that came up was the timeline of the link you DID post. 3 years old. Despite being asked repeatedly for that link.

    so what could have been just a misunderstanding AT FIRST instead now leads to now suggesting you revisit a particular page........
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    You're a sly one, S_C. Looks like I did the friendly fire thing for nothing. 👍
    pssst, thats about the only post like that....
    Hey, aren't you the guy that were unable to read a simple post correctly and instead went on blasting a user based on you not being able to read correctly in the soccer tread? I seem to remember you.
    I seem to remember you have yet to link the "current" comment you referenced. I searched. All that came up was the timeline of the link you DID post. 3 years old. Despite being asked repeatedly for that link.

    so what could have been just a misunderstanding AT FIRST instead now leads to now suggesting you revisit a particular page........
    https://www.dn.se/sport/fotboll/hope-solo-anklagar-lagledningen-for-os-psykningen-de-fixade-mina-handskar/
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    Sweden
    oh come on, not again! This thread was just starting to become nice
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    Sweden
    Worst part is, now I‘ve got this stuck in my head....


  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    JPPJ84 said:
    Worst part is, now I‘ve got this stuck in my head....


    I love my 8 year old niece, who has had her entire room filled up with frozen now being in a complete "I hate frozen" phase. She just want to draw- and talk about Pokemon. 

    You wanna watch the trailer for Frozen 2?
    - No, I hate frozen.
    But then, why do you have an Olaf pillowcase?
    - I hate Olaf. Now come draw Jigglypuff with me.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Anywhere but those 3
    JPPJ84 said:
    Worst part is, now I‘ve got this stuck in my head....


    I love my 8 year old niece, who has had her entire room filled up with frozen now being in a complete "I hate frozen" phase. She just want to draw- and talk about Pokemon. 

    You wanna watch the trailer for Frozen 2?
    - No, I hate frozen.
    But then, why do you have an Olaf pillowcase?
    - I hate Olaf. Now come draw Jigglypuff with me.
    I caught a damn jigglypuff once out in Boston in 16 whilst playing Pokemon go.
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,952
    U.S.A.
    bbiggs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    Only 2 choices in the entire USA? Seems weird. I guess it’s probably you just don’t know enough.

    If I had to move to Canada, I don’t know enough to know where to move and where not  to. 

    I would think that Toronto and Vancouver would top my list. The east coast area would intrigue me. Montreal area would be pretty low on the list as well as remote areas.
    I don’t think I would ever want to live “in” Seattle or NYC.  East of Seattle somewhere in the mountains definitely and maybe somewhere close to NYC with a lot fewer people.  I’ve never actually been to NYC, but I hear it is dirty and smelly...Seattle was somewhat that way last time I visited.
    I'm definitely a city mouse. I want to be directly in or within a max half hour train ride of the city. I need that easy access to what cities offer (mainly for the music venues and dining options, and just for the energy/vibe of a big city). NYC isn't dirty IMO, for a city that size. It used to be apparently, but Ghouliani cleaned it up well, I'll give him that. I was impressed when I went there. A very beautiful city IMO. Now, of course their garbage pick up system is that all the garbage goes out onto the sidewalks throughout the day, and is picked up every night. This is because there is no other option. There are few back alleys in NYC, and most of them are fenced off (with barbed wire at the top of the fences) to prevent crime from happening in them, and to keep people from sleeping in them. So yeah, at least in warm weather, you can smell the garbage ... For me though, everything else that NYC offers easily offsets that minor (to me) issue. I do make a point of warning people who are going there and have never been though. I think seeing all that garbage out on the sidewalks can be a bit of shock if you weren't aware that is how it's done.
    Chicago has its flaws, no doubt, but it is a very clean city in comparison for the reasons you mention above. New York is a great city, but the trash in the streets is so unsanitary.
    NYC isn't dirty like a few of you have mentioned.

    We do have an increase in homeless though.
    My comment was definitely not intended to be a knock on NYC.  I have been a few times and I think it is fantastic.  Just "dirty" in comparison to Chicago if we're talking strictly waste management.  That is a product of the design of not having alleys.  We have alleys here otherwise we'd be doing the same thing.  NY is a great city all around.
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,952
    U.S.A.
    I'd love to live in Sweden. I went to Way Out West in 2015 and had such an enjoyable experience. I found everyone to be so polite and it felt very safe. Things are more expensive than they are where I come from, but I could live with that I'm sure. I'll return there again before too long.
    Where are you from, and why did you go to WOW in 2015? Pet shop boys? Beck?

    Things being "expensive" is relative. It's like people (not you) seem to think people in Sweden can't go outside because of everything being expensive. It's not like we built a system that doesn't work to live in. Oh, a pair of Levis is cheaper in the US and a beer cost a bit less - then people living on wages they can't survive on and going bankrupt when they get sick is all worth it. 

    Well here we have decent wages and we don't go bankrupt when sick - and those who need a pair of Levis can buy them and everyone drinks beer. 

    Might be more expensive to be a tourist in. But by all metrics and all common sense Sweden seems to have built a society with a better balance than the US. And on a more compassionate foundation. Instead of a "But, I am privileged enough to have a pool and a fence tall enough to not see the rest of society" foundation.
    The big, bad U.S.A.  A country full of selfish a-holes.  Sweden has it all figured out.  If only we could be like Sweden.  Maybe someday...
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    bbiggs said:
    I'd love to live in Sweden. I went to Way Out West in 2015 and had such an enjoyable experience. I found everyone to be so polite and it felt very safe. Things are more expensive than they are where I come from, but I could live with that I'm sure. I'll return there again before too long.
    Where are you from, and why did you go to WOW in 2015? Pet shop boys? Beck?

    Things being "expensive" is relative. It's like people (not you) seem to think people in Sweden can't go outside because of everything being expensive. It's not like we built a system that doesn't work to live in. Oh, a pair of Levis is cheaper in the US and a beer cost a bit less - then people living on wages they can't survive on and going bankrupt when they get sick is all worth it. 

    Well here we have decent wages and we don't go bankrupt when sick - and those who need a pair of Levis can buy them and everyone drinks beer. 

    Might be more expensive to be a tourist in. But by all metrics and all common sense Sweden seems to have built a society with a better balance than the US. And on a more compassionate foundation. Instead of a "But, I am privileged enough to have a pool and a fence tall enough to not see the rest of society" foundation.
    The big, bad U.S.A.  A country full of selfish a-holes.  Sweden has it all figured out.  If only we could be like Sweden.  Maybe someday...
    https://youtu.be/aezPgrV7qIM
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada
    New York stinks of garbage.  Garbage smell equals filth.  a billion rats equal filth.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Canada
    JPPJ84 said:
    Worst part is, now I‘ve got this stuck in my head....


    I love my 8 year old niece, who has had her entire room filled up with frozen now being in a complete "I hate frozen" phase. She just want to draw- and talk about Pokemon. 

    You wanna watch the trailer for Frozen 2?
    - No, I hate frozen.
    But then, why do you have an Olaf pillowcase?
    - I hate Olaf. Now come draw Jigglypuff with me.
    I caught a damn jigglypuff once out in Boston in 16 whilst playing Pokemon go.


    Would sacrifice my red Easy Street record for a real life Jiglypuff. 


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,299
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    You're a sly one, S_C. Looks like I did the friendly fire thing for nothing. 👍
    pssst, thats about the only post like that....
    Hey, aren't you the guy that were unable to read a simple post correctly and instead went on blasting a user based on you not being able to read correctly in the soccer tread? I seem to remember you.
    I seem to remember you have yet to link the "current" comment you referenced. I searched. All that came up was the timeline of the link you DID post. 3 years old. Despite being asked repeatedly for that link.

    so what could have been just a misunderstanding AT FIRST instead now leads to now suggesting you revisit a particular page........
    https://www.dn.se/sport/fotboll/hope-solo-anklagar-lagledningen-for-os-psykningen-de-fixade-mina-handskar/
    TLDR  not in english.

    but finally, I assume, you've done what was asked to back up your claim. Suggesting All that bullshit in that thread was unnecessary
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