i wish they would just come out and say "we hate making records. there's no money in it. playing shows is fun and it pays bookoos of money. thanks for understanding." Steve Nicks did it.
But they don't play shows
Hey 26 in 40 months!
If money were the big driver they'd charge for tickets what the other bands of their stature do
i wish they would just come out and say "we hate making records. there's no money in it. playing shows is fun and it pays bookoos of money. thanks for understanding." Steve Nicks did it.
But they don't play shows
Hey 26 in 40 months!
If money were the big driver they'd charge for tickets what the other bands of their stature do
There may be countless reasons why the band hasn´t released a new album yet. Maybe the well is starting to run dry or the inspiration just isn´t there yet. Inspiration comes and goes. I´m pretty sure the death of Cornell has something to do with it too. I´m sure once Ed is ready to go, the band will too. They don´t owe us anything and has already given us so much. They deserve all the respect we can possibly give.
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In all seriousness. PJ owes us nothing. There catalog is unreal. Their live shows were life changers. For the guy above who said there is more to life than PJ. That is true but some live PJ was something my wife and daughter would all share together. I have road tripped with this band to multiple shows. Most I saw them was six times in a year (ahhh the good old days) and now that I am older with a family they are the good time and life changing moments for my wife and daughter like they were for me. But all good things come to an end so whatever is up in PJ land, I like everyone else will sit and wait.
There may be countless reasons why the band hasn´t released a new album yet. Maybe the well is starting to run dry or the inspiration just isn´t there yet. Inspiration comes and goes. I´m pretty sure the death of Cornell has something to do with it too. I´m sure once Ed is ready to go, the band will too. They don´t owe us anything and has already given us so much. They deserve all the respect we can possibly give.
My respect is both ongoing and forthcoming.
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I think if I were a member of Pearl Jam I would feel like we got too big, that the expectations are too high and I might believe that those are some reasons why the last 3 or 4 albums were mediocre at best. I would want to back off, forget about all the attention, refocus on why I'm in it in the first place, and seek renewed inspiration. I would look at other bands like Dinosaur Jr and feel envious of their good fortune in not being so HUGE and seeing them continue to produce top quality music. I would try to move more in that direction. I hope that happens with this band.
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I think we can all agree that Backspacer was a shit album for the most part. But I personally would put Lightning Bolt above Backspacer, Riot Act, Avocado 🥑 and some days Binaural. I loved all the albums mentioned except Backspacer but I spin Lightning Bolt more than the others to this day. I spin it more than Ten also but that’s just from burnout of Ten. Ten is the far superior album to Lightning Bolt for sure.
I think Chris dying had a lot to do with the break but also Petty dying had to hurt Ed bad too. Probably put important things in perspective. (Like Cubs baseball lol)
In all seriousness. PJ owes us nothing. There catalog is unreal. Their live shows were life changers. For the guy above who said there is more to life than PJ. That is true but some live PJ was something my wife and daughter would all share together. I have road tripped with this band to multiple shows. Most I saw them was six times in a year (ahhh the good old days) and now that I am older with a family they are the good time and life changing moments for my wife and daughter like they were for me. But all good things come to an end so whatever is up in PJ land, I like everyone else will sit and wait.
I agree with this 100%. Nothing better than sharing a PJ trip with family and friends. Been to many cities and met many great people.
I think we can all agree that Backspacer was a shit album for the most part. But I personally would put Lightning Bolt above Backspacer, Riot Act, Avocado 🥑 and some days Binaural. I loved all the albums mentioned except Backspacer but I spin Lightning Bolt more than the others to this day. I spin it more than Ten also but that’s just from burnout of Ten. Ten is the far superior album to Lightning Bolt for sure.
I think Chris dying had a lot to do with the break but also Petty dying had to hurt Ed bad too. Probably put important things in perspective. (Like Cubs baseball lol)
I would rank Lightning Bolt exactly where it stands in the release catalog, dead last by a long shot. I highly prefer Backspacer and would like to write off the last decade of Pearl Jam studio releases (hell, even the annual singles have been kind of crap) and at least 5 years of live acts. 2014 was the last great tour with '16 being pretty strong, but a bit uneven. Stadium shows suck and setlist is getting old with too many standard covers dominating. Retire RITFW for god's sake and move Even Flow, Porch and Alive around more to break up the monotony. Play more No Code - Self Titled songs; they're all fantastic albums. The 2010's is the decade that truly has established PJ as a nostalgia act, which is unfortunate because I thought they had a lot left in the tank up until LB was released, but that album along with the long hiatus before and after seem to be the clear sign of where this band is when it comes to new music. That's not going to change and they're never going to be relevant again. Their time has officially passed. Glad I was able to be there from the beginning on and enjoy them at their peak.
I think we can all agree that Backspacer was a shit album for the most part. But I personally would put Lightning Bolt above Backspacer, Riot Act, Avocado 🥑 and some days Binaural. I loved all the albums mentioned except Backspacer but I spin Lightning Bolt more than the others to this day. I spin it more than Ten also but that’s just from burnout of Ten. Ten is the far superior album to Lightning Bolt for sure.
I think Chris dying had a lot to do with the break but also Petty dying had to hurt Ed bad too. Probably put important things in perspective. (Like Cubs baseball lol)
I would rank Lightning Bolt exactly where it stands in the release catalog, dead last by a long shot. I highly prefer Backspacer and would like to write off the last decade of Pearl Jam studio releases (hell, even the annual singles have been kind of crap) and at least 5 years of live acts. 2014 was the last great tour with '16 being pretty strong, but a bit uneven. Stadium shows suck and setlist is getting old with too many standard covers dominating. Retire RITFW for god's sake and move Even Flow, Porch and Alive around more to break up the monotony. Play more No Code - Self Titled songs; they're all fantastic albums. The 2010's is the decade that truly has established PJ as a nostalgia act, which is unfortunate because I thought they had a lot left in the tank up until LB was released, but that album along with the long hiatus before and after seem to be the clear sign of where this band is when it comes to new music. That's not going to change and they're never going to be relevant again. Their time has officially passed. Glad I was able to be there from the beginning on and enjoy them at their peak.
pretty much sums up how I feel. I thought Backspacer was a sign that the band was moving back to short/punchy albums. ones that were easier to produce and hence we would get more of them. oh well.
Thread title is correct, but this has been the case for over a decade. The shows are still pretty damn fun even if the singalong moments can be a bit cringey. And as other have said, the catalog speaks for itself.
"What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
The demand is on, always been. The band knows how it is. We can relate to their 'not commitment' by snorkeling around other music, maybe. Or get that 'cold confession' mp3 on, and imagine, new stuff is being done. Dunno... What i do know is that i have to pick a PJ t-shirt, from dozens, to wear over at Muse tonight. Watching that robot sing. Cheers
First of all I will say. Any amount of PJ is better than no PJ at all. With that being said. The variety of the shows has become somewhat stale. Same couple openers, first set ends with RVM or Porch with the other usually closing out the first encore. Alive in the second encore. It just seems like they take less chances now. No big deal. But they are still light years above the bands that play the same set list every night. Shit, some bands have the same stage banter between songs. You never know what Ed’s going to say. But the holy shit sets seem to be long gone. Maybe I’m wrong but just seems like it’s easier to call the recent ones than the old ones.
Every band as they age seem to lose the fire and drive and the music seems to become a character (I think that’s the right word) of what seemed so fresh when they and we were young. What was once so rebellious and fresh is now blah. But shit, could you imagine having to sing Even Flow for the millionth time just so Mike can pull out an epic solo.
Look at the bands from the 60’s and 70’s now. Rebels that were game changers back then are old grandparents that just play the hits. All great bands become nostalgic acts over time. I believe this is where we are at in PJ land. It’s a shame but that’s life.
i don't find them to be a nostalgia act. just a great rock band, where there messages are still relevant even in this ever changing world. look at dylan he has songs from 50 years ago where the message is till relevant. for whatever reason they don't want to tour like they used to. i think 2016 was a great tour with a good amount of dates. i was lucky and went to 4 shows. come out and do a limited hits tour, a rarities tour any tour. but if not i can only say it was a great run and always had great times travelling to different cities . personally i don't like stadium shows so i don't go. and by the way 2016 was way better than 2014 as ed's voice was far superior . his voice in 16 only started to give out by the last show in toronto. just my opinion. so guys come back out , catch some fire, desire and show us all why we have loved the music for so long.
I think we can all agree that Backspacer was a shit album for the most part. But I personally would put Lightning Bolt above Backspacer, Riot Act, Avocado 🥑 and some days Binaural. I loved all the albums mentioned except Backspacer but I spin Lightning Bolt more than the others to this day. I spin it more than Ten also but that’s just from burnout of Ten. Ten is the far superior album to Lightning Bolt for sure.
I think Chris dying had a lot to do with the break but also Petty dying had to hurt Ed bad too. Probably put important things in perspective. (Like Cubs baseball lol)
I would rank Lightning Bolt exactly where it stands in the release catalog, dead last by a long shot. I highly prefer Backspacer and would like to write off the last decade of Pearl Jam studio releases (hell, even the annual singles have been kind of crap) and at least 5 years of live acts. 2014 was the last great tour with '16 being pretty strong, but a bit uneven. Stadium shows suck and setlist is getting old with too many standard covers dominating. Retire RITFW for god's sake and move Even Flow, Porch and Alive around more to break up the monotony. Play more No Code - Self Titled songs; they're all fantastic albums. The 2010's is the decade that truly has established PJ as a nostalgia act, which is unfortunate because I thought they had a lot left in the tank up until LB was released, but that album along with the long hiatus before and after seem to be the clear sign of where this band is when it comes to new music. That's not going to change and they're never going to be relevant again. Their time has officially passed. Glad I was able to be there from the beginning on and enjoy them at their peak.
pretty much sums up how I feel. I thought Backspacer was a sign that the band was moving back to short/punchy albums. ones that were easier to produce and hence we would get more of them. oh well.
Back to short punchy albums? When did they ever make short punchy albums? Maybe Vs would fit that description, but otherwise they’ve done a good job of expanding their basic sound a bit here and there. I’d take that approach, which I think they used on LB, long before the dumbing down they did with Backspacer. When a song like Unthought Known is perceived as a highlight, you know that the rest is at best half baked.
They are working on a new album now. That's all I can say and probably shouldn't even be saying that to respect my source, but I just wanted to share that with other fans waiting. I'm excited!
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They are working on a new album now. That's all I can say and probably shouldn't even be saying that to respect my source, but I just wanted to share that with other fans waiting. I'm excited!
I've heard from someone with "connections" that the album is already done.. I trust none of it
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I am no stalker at all with this band and know very little of where they are at all times but ever since the Boston shows when exactly did they have time to all get together and put together an album?
They are working on a new album now. That's all I can say and probably shouldn't even be saying that to respect my source, but I just wanted to share that with other fans waiting. I'm excited!
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Hey 26 in 40 months!
If money were the big driver they'd charge for tickets what the other bands of their stature do
Maybe the well is starting to run dry or the inspiration just isn´t there yet. Inspiration comes and goes. I´m pretty sure the death of Cornell has something to do with it too. I´m sure once Ed is ready to go, the band will too. They don´t owe us anything and has already given us so much. They deserve all the respect we can possibly give.
Roskilde 2000, Berlin 2006, Athens 2006, Dusseldorf 2007, Copenhagen 2007, New York NY 1 + 2 2008, Berlin 2009, London 2009, London 2010, Berlin 2010, Manchester 2 2012, Berlin 1 2012, Stockholm 2012, Oslo 2012, Copenhagen 2012, Amsterdam 1 + 2 (EV solo) 2012, Amsterdam 1 + 2 2014, Stockholm 2014, Oslo 2014, Leeds 2014, Milton Keynes 2014, Heartland Festival DK (EV solo) 2017, Berlin 2018, Barcelona 2018, Copenhagen 2022, Prague 2022 (Cancelled)
My respect is both ongoing and forthcoming.
I think Chris dying had a lot to do with the break but also Petty dying had to hurt Ed bad too. Probably put important things in perspective. (Like Cubs baseball lol)
Also Euro 2018 was small but had some amazing shows too. Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, London 2 where all stellar.
We can relate to their 'not commitment' by snorkeling around other music, maybe.
Or get that 'cold confession' mp3 on, and imagine, new stuff is being done.
Dunno...
What i do know is that i have to pick a PJ t-shirt, from dozens, to wear over at Muse tonight.
Watching that robot sing.
Cheers
Every band as they age seem to lose the fire and drive and the music seems to become a character (I think that’s the right word) of what seemed so fresh when they and we were young. What was once so rebellious and fresh is now blah. But shit, could you imagine having to sing Even Flow for the millionth time just so Mike can pull out an epic solo.
Look at the bands from the 60’s and 70’s now. Rebels that were game changers back then are old grandparents that just play the hits. All great bands become nostalgic acts over time. I believe this is where we are at in PJ land. It’s a shame but that’s life.
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