IDK.. Avocado

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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,901
    mcgruff10 said:
    What do you think the stand out show is from this tour?
    Grand Rapids.  Check out the first encore.
    Ed pre-set: Dead Man, Can’t Explain
    set: Elderly Woman…, Given To Fly, World Wide Suicide, Life Wasted, Severed Hand, Sad, Marker in the Sand, Red Mosquito, Even Flow, Love Boat Captain, Corduroy, Daughter/(Blitzkrieg Bop)/(I Believe In Miracles), Army Reserve, Green Disease, Why Go, Inside Job, Rearviewmirror
    first encore: Sleight of Hand, Off He Goes, Around the Bend, Parting Ways, Hard To Imagine, Crazy Mary, Alive
    second encore: Do The Evolution, Comatose, Satan’s Bed, Leatherman, Blood, Baba O’Riley, Yellow Ledbetter


    ^^^Amazing experience.
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  • This is one of my favorites and helped me get through a transition in life (isn't that how music often works?). I can't tell you how much I listened to the thing in the summer of 06.

    At this point Severed Hand is my No. 1 song I'm still waiting to hear live.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,397
    Crazy that their last big tour was in support of this album. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,901
    mcgruff10 said:
    Crazy that their last big tour was in support of this album. 
    What did Stone say it was costing them to bring that green laser out on tour? 50 grand a week?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,397
    100 Pacer said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Crazy that their last big tour was in support of this album. 
    What did Stone say it was costing them to bring that green laser out on tour? 50 grand a week?
    Seriously?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JC29866JC29866 Posts: 85
    I was just contemplating this album today.  When it first dropped, I gave it a fair run, but never stood the test of time.  It’s clearly their worst effort (if you can call it effort).   Poor songwriting, muffled production, Ed’s strained vocal performance.  Something went wrong here.  The instrumental Avocado leaked tracks are better than anything on this album. 
  • JC29866JC29866 Posts: 85
    Avocado lacks the crackle of other PJ albums that feel more passionate, energetic or alive. This thing is dead in the water.  They were so lazy they couldn’t even come up with an album title. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,150
    JC29866 said:
    Avocado lacks the crackle of other PJ albums that feel more passionate, energetic or alive. This thing is dead in the water.  They were so lazy they couldn’t even come up with an album title. 
    ”Superunowned”

    But Yeah, this one being selftitled was weird. And that the cover was approved by all the members. 
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  • foodboyfoodboy Posts: 988
    loved it start to finish when it first came out . still feel the same today. absolutely stellar album. thought the 06 tour was super great. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,673
    WATA?

    By the way, Avocado is great! Most of it anyway.
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  • When this album first came out, my first thought was how great these songs would sound live. And that definitely happened. Such a great album. I wish Nugs had the 2006 shows on there...
  • JC29866 said:
    Avocado lacks the crackle of other PJ albums that feel more passionate, energetic or alive. This thing is dead in the water.  They were so lazy they couldn’t even come up with an album title. 

    Shit opinion.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,890
    edited June 2019
    JC29866 said:
    Avocado lacks the crackle of other PJ albums that feel more passionate, energetic or alive. This thing is dead in the water.  They were so lazy they couldn’t even come up with an album title. 

    Shit opinion.
    :lol: Man, you crack me up sometimes.
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  • mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,243
    Their most underrated album, IMO.
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    on2legs said:
    Not a fan of Comatose, but the rest is stellar. 

    Avocado 


    I was not a fan either when the album came out.  But hearing it live made me a fan. 

    I really like this album. 

    Odd 2006 tour fact:   They opened both nights in NJ that tour with the same 3 songs in back to back shows.  
    Odd 2006 tour fact. They never played DEEP 
    This drives me bananas for compilation purposes! THey also omitted Habit from the tour!
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,946
    Their most underrated album, IMO.
    Never thought about it that way but I’m in agreement. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,127
    on2legs said:
    Their most underrated album, IMO.
    Never thought about it that way but I’m in agreement. 
    100%
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,775
    mcgruff10 said:
    What do you think the stand out show is from this tour?
    Athens :smiley:
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,775
    PJ_Soul said:
    Love it, and yes, I agree that it's totally standing up over time. I don't like Big Wave, but other than that, amazing.
    It did make Surf's Up a bit more fun. But yeah. Really a Lost Dogs kind of song.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBso_QzUuao
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,150
    Pap said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Love it, and yes, I agree that it's totally standing up over time. I don't like Big Wave, but other than that, amazing.
    It did make Surf's Up a bit more fun. But yeah. Really a Lost Dogs kind of song.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBso_QzUuao
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,775
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  • The RockThe Rock Posts: 1,437
    Although this one has dropped a little in my ranking over the years, I still have extremely fond memories of when it was released.

    2006 was probably the first 'peak' in my fandom. I was lucky enough to get two tickets to the London Astoria show in April, which was just mind boggling. That whole day is still hard to believe. Had a great time in the queue, got about 3rd or 4th row for the show and to see the band walk out in front of me just blew my mind. I had to move back a little after 3 or 4 songs because it was way too tight but the venue was tiny so it was a great view everywhere.  The floor was bouncing during Even Flow and a total stranger put his arm around me when it started and we went nuts together. It was a fun little moment.

    The new songs already sounded pretty great, but by the time I saw them later that year in September the band were firing on all cyclinders.  Certain songs such as Come Back hit me harder now, because my mum had passed away on August 26th, and the funeral was the day before I had to fly out to Lisbon.  I was in shock, in denial, and I needed to get away. I needed those shows and that music and my friends or else I don't know what would've happened.

    I'm rambling, but this record means a lot to me and that year was simultaneously the best and worst year of my life up to that point. I still remember the day the tickets arrived for the Astoria show arrived. My mum asked me to go to the shop and pick up the newspapers for her. She was sick at this point but she didn't really deteriorate until the summer months, so she was still at home. Anyways, the tickets arrived while I was out. When I got home, my mum had such a cheeky grin on her face and when I asked her what was going on she pulled the tickets out and I went nuts with excitement. It's such a small moment but I'll never forget her excitement at seeing how happy I was.

    WWS, Severed Hand, Marker, Army Reserve, Come Back, Inside Job. Those are great songs.
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  • KN219077KN219077 Posts: 1,068
    This one hasn’t aged as well for me. I still think it’s a good album, and just what the band needed at the time, but I just don’t go back to it that often
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,871
    Great record and tour. Inside job, severed hand, come back, life wasted, marker, wws, army reserve all incredible. 9/10
  • ShanKathyShanKathy Posts: 314
    Pap said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Love it, and yes, I agree that it's totally standing up over time. I don't like Big Wave, but other than that, amazing.
    It did make Surf's Up a bit more fun. But yeah. Really a Lost Dogs kind of song.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBso_QzUuao
    Thanks Pap, what a great performance of that song! I love Avocado, it’s an album I listen to regularly.
  • CO278952CO278952 Posts: 1,347
    Weird harsh sound on the album and Eddie sounded strained and rough (coming from me loving Riot Act) were my first impression. Love the songs live, especially now years later. Always loved WWS, Severed Hand, Gone etc. But have a hard time with Comatose and a song like Marker in the Sand - even though the lyrics are great - feels held back in some way. Comeback feels a bit "on the nose" or simple to me. 

    Remember everything about that period. WWS dropping. The surprisingly cheap looking throw-away music video. The Letterman appearance (streamed it live in the middle of the night from Sweden on a small 14'' computer screen). SNL. 
    the 2017 Brendan O'Brien remix of this album made all the difference for me.  if had only been mixed that way originally I would have reacted much more favorably to the album when it was released in 2006
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  • Celticskemba8Celticskemba8 Posts: 334
    Great record and tour. Inside job, severed hand, come back, life wasted, marker, wws, army reserve all incredible. 9/10

    i would add parachutes & wasted reprise. One of my fav albums!

  • WhywhyzedWhywhyzed Posts: 270
    Just the variance of so far people love and don't love from this album in this thread is nuts!

    Some people don't love Inside Job? That's wild to me but to each their own.
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