The Democratic Candidates

my2hands

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

HughFreakingDillon

my2hands said:

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

Ivanka? lol

my2hands

HughFreakingDillon said:

my2hands said:

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

Ivanka? lol

that's better than Jr!!! lol

mrussel1

my2hands said:

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

I'm pretty sure he will make a commitment not to run in 2024.  I really don't see him doing that.  I see him as a placeholder, a transition back to normalcy and then all political battles can resume.  

HughFreakingDillon

my2hands said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my2hands said:

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

Ivanka? lol

that's better than Jr!!! lol

no disagreement there. I actually think she'd be a pretty moderate repub, but she'd be completely inept. 

my2hands

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

I'm pretty sure he will make a commitment not to run in 2024.  I really don't see him doing that.  I see him as a placeholder, a transition back to normalcy and then all political battles can resume.  

that would be an error in my opinion and I don't think he would make that commitment.... he DEFINITELY won't state that in the primary or in the general... but he may make that decision going into 2024, but that would be well after getting elected, if he does indeed win the primary and general

OnWis97

my2hands said:

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

I would not be surprised if he did not seek a second term given his age.  

Edit: I realise mrussell said this already...

mrussel1

my2hands said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

lets assume for a second Biden wins the nomination, and then wins the election in 2020....

I believe he will almost definitely be beat in the 2024 election

I'm pretty sure he will make a commitment not to run in 2024.  I really don't see him doing that.  I see him as a placeholder, a transition back to normalcy and then all political battles can resume.  

that would be an error in my opinion and I don't think he would make that commitment.... he DEFINITELY won't state that in the primary or in the general... but he may make that decision going into 2024, but that would be well after getting elected, if he does indeed win the primary and general

It could assuage the concern of many that he is too old.  I don't know that it would be a mistake.  It's an interesting decision.  

mrussel1

I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start.  I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines.  It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago.  If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions

Hi!

Spiritual_Chaos

Or he’ll win term 2 and then due to Age give the baton to the VP. 

or would it be a reelection If he steps down by free will?

Spiritual_Chaos

Seems dangerous to leave after one term and reset the table - when a sitting president has such advantage. 

HughFreakingDillon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Or he’ll win term 2 and then due to Age give the baton to the VP. 

or would it be a reelection If he steps down by free will?

VP would be promoted

oftenreading

mrussel1 said:

I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start.  I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines.  It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago.  If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions

I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.

mrussel1

oftenreading said:

mrussel1 said:

I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start.  I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines.  It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago.  If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions

I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.

There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well.  Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area. 

oftenreading

mrussel1 said:

oftenreading said:

mrussel1 said:

I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start.  I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines.  It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago.  If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.  

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions

I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.

There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well.  Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area. 

Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over better ? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere. 

Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions. 

PJ_Soul

I believe that vaccinations should be mandatory for ALL people, no non-medical exemptions, and I think those who refuse should be given prison time (quarantined, of course), and their kids should be vaccinated against their wills if necessary. I think that preventing these diseases from making a come back FAR outweighs considerations of personal liberty. I'm completely hard core about this issue and proud of it.

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1123619735604736003

PJ_Soul

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1123619735604736003

She's the best.

HughFreakingDillon

I just saw there is a senator from rhode island with the last name Whitehouse. Seriously, this guy needs to run for President. I need to live in a world where we get to refer to POTUS for 4 years as President Whitehouse.