When you invent and invest in an ecosystem (what she'd refer to as 'baseball' but isn't actually baseball, it's a proprietary game like Snakes and Ladders that someone designed, aka intellectual property), you reserve the right to make the rules, you get to choose the curation, you get to disclose what you're collecting and then proceed to do so, and it's well understood that you have the right to use that data for what you want, even if that means to eventually compete in the ecosystem you created - that's part of the reason you created it. None of this is ill-gotten, and frankly none of this competitive behaviour is new (just it gets easier when creating an ecosystem is so affordable, and guided by AI).
Maybe I'll learn more and change my mind on this, but even as someone greatly affected by Amazon daily, I respect their right to do what they're doing and how they're doing it, and unfortunately I don't think she sounded intelligent in her argument.
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So a more reasonable thing for the candidate to say would be,”reform the tax code so Amazon pays their fair of taxes” instead of “ break them up”. That seems to be Bernie’s theme more or less, no? I don’t recall him calling for breaking these corporations up.
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So a more reasonable thing for the candidate to say would be,”reform the tax code so Amazon pays their fair of taxes” instead of “ break them up”. That seems to be Bernie’s theme more or less, no? I don’t recall him calling for breaking these corporations up.
True - and maybe "break them up" is just Warren's way of saying it in a relatable way, rather than "reform the tax code so Amazon pays their fair share of taxes". It's just not as catchy
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So a more reasonable thing for the candidate to say would be,”reform the tax code so Amazon pays their fair of taxes” instead of “ break them up”. That seems to be Bernie’s theme more or less, no? I don’t recall him calling for breaking these corporations up.
True - and maybe "break them up" is just Warren's way of saying it in a relatable way, rather than "reform the tax code so Amazon pays their fair share of taxes". It's just not as catchy
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN! Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN! Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN! Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN! Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN! Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN! Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
Progressive isn't a negative. Teddy Roosevelt ran for president on a progressive ticket. Until very recently, there really wasn't a difference (in my mind) between a progressive and a liberal. But there's been some odd shift where the SJW's and social media a-holes have taken up this word to describe themselves and the media has subscribed. BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.
Warren is not becoming president, so she is not breaking any company up. And if any company needs to be broken up it’s Ticketmaster...
Now that really was a monopoly. Probably still is.
If the fees were at least reasonable I wouldn’t complain...but fees can be 20% or more of ticket price seems excessive...and other than the secondary market (legalized scalping), the consumer loses every time.
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.
Heard it on Bill Mahers show this morning. Coined by LBJ I think they said.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Warren is not becoming president, so she is not breaking any company up. And if any company needs to be broken up it’s Ticketmaster...
Now that really was a monopoly. Probably still is.
If the fees were at least reasonable I wouldn’t complain...but fees can be 20% or more of ticket price seems excessive...and other than the secondary market (legalized scalping), the consumer loses every time.
Some info on which candidates have qualified for debates, which is pretty much all of them, lol. Looks like the first debates will be split up over a couple of nights because of the amount of candidates who have qualified. I wonder how they’ll be split up. Not really a fan of that but no other way around it with 20 candidates.
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BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.
Ahhhhhh, not really.... Joe is a moderate.... nobody considers him a liberal, and they shouldn't... he is s solid moderare dem.... the iraq war vote being near the top of the list and the crime bill, etc......
I would not consider Joe to be a liberal or progressive, which i feel are the same thing
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.
Ahhhhhh, not really.... Joe is a moderate.... nobody considers him a liberal, and they shouldn't... he is s solid moderare dem.... the iraq war vote being near the top of the list and the crime bill, etc......
I would not consider Joe to be a liberal or progressive, which i feel are the same thing
See this is a perfect example of the lack of historical perspective when evaluating people's positions. The Crime Bill was not considered a 'conservative/liberal' demarcation point when it came to pass. The cities were ravaged by crime and the leaders in the black community, including the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus, supported the bill. You can't judge their vote by what we know today, 30 friggin' years later, with the benefit of hindsight. And don't forget the Violence Against Women Act was a subset. I guess Biden should have voted against that?
Oh and FYI, Sanders voted for it too. I guess he's a moderate.
Warren is not becoming president, so she is not breaking any company up. And if any company needs to be broken up it’s Ticketmaster...
Now that really was a monopoly. Probably still is.
If the fees were at least reasonable I wouldn’t complain...but fees can be 20% or more of ticket price seems excessive...and other than the secondary market (legalized scalping), the consumer loses every time.
I will read the article. This is why I will never be a fan of politicians. If she had said that Ticketmaster needs investigating, then I could understand. Other than Facebook, the companies she mentions has benefited many people...And I am a heavy Amazon user...I can hardly wait until grocery delivery from Amazon comes my way...my dream of never entering another retail store might happen before I die...lol.
Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
"this gap is yawning, it’s gaping, and it’s having the effect of pulling us apart. You see the politics of it. And the country’s not going to stand for it forever, so we have to deal with the tax code. It’s wildly skewed toward taking care of those at the very top. It favors, overwhelmingly favors, investors over workers and it’s riddled with unproductive expenditures."
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
"this gap is yawning, it’s gaping, and it’s having the effect of pulling us apart. You see the politics of it. And the country’s not going to stand for it forever, so we have to deal with the tax code. It’s wildly skewed toward taking care of those at the very top. It favors, overwhelmingly favors, investors over workers and it’s riddled with unproductive expenditures."
Thanks Brian.
It's not exactly the words you would hear from Stephen Moore. He's blaming the system, which is where I lay the blame as well.
Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
"this gap is yawning, it’s gaping, and it’s having the effect of pulling us apart. You see the politics of it. And the country’s not going to stand for it forever, so we have to deal with the tax code. It’s wildly skewed toward taking care of those at the very top. It favors, overwhelmingly favors, investors over workers and it’s riddled with unproductive expenditures."
Thanks Brian.
It's not exactly the words you would hear from Stephen Moore. He's blaming the system, which is where I lay the blame as well.
LOL, that's for sure!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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Maybe I'll learn more and change my mind on this, but even as someone greatly affected by Amazon daily, I respect their right to do what they're doing and how they're doing it, and unfortunately I don't think she sounded intelligent in her argument.
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Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
To your second point, the scalping is just as bad. Read this expose from the Toronto Star if you never saw it. TM colludes with the scalpers. https://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2018/09/19/we-went-undercover-as-ticket-scalpers-and-ticketmaster-offered-to-help-us-do-business.html
Some info on which candidates have qualified for debates, which is pretty much all of them, lol.
Looks like the first debates will be split up over a couple of nights because of the amount of candidates who have qualified. I wonder how they’ll be split up. Not really a fan of that but no other way around it with 20 candidates.
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I would not consider Joe to be a liberal or progressive, which i feel are the same thing
Oh and FYI, Sanders voted for it too. I guess he's a moderate.
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE!
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And the country’s not going to stand for it forever, so we have to deal with the tax code. It’s wildly skewed toward taking care of those at the very top. It favors, overwhelmingly favors, investors over workers and it’s riddled with unproductive expenditures."
It's not exactly the words you would hear from Stephen Moore. He's blaming the system, which is where I lay the blame as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU