Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Watched a little of The View interview so far, thought it was decent. He does have a good ability to connect on an emotional or personal level. I wasn’t very inspired by the kickoff video or campaign rollout, but seeing Trump go on the defensive this morning over his Charlottesville comments is a good start.
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Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster.
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
He can sound however he wants, he's still the oldest person running for President.
Healing the country is wanting people to stop hating each other, to stop letting white supremacists think that they are 'good people', stop caging children and demeaning immigrants and brown people and scary religions and women who don't know their place, ya know, being a decent human being instead of racists angry POS's. I
Make America Great Again is a desperate cry by white people who see that they will no longer be the majority in the country shortly. It is anti immigrant (even though we are all immigrants), pro white power, racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti progressive ideas.
They are completely different and MAGA has caused the country to splinter in such a horrendous way that someone needs to heal this country or our democracy will fail.
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster.
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
He can sound however he wants, he's still the oldest person running for President.
I'm not arguing about him being the oldest person running for President. No need to age-shame the man.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
And America has always had problems, we are a new democracy and have struggled in being fair to all people. We are still not fair to all people. The atmosphere of the country in the Trump era is one of anger and corruption and acceptance of despicable behavior. That needs to stop and people need to be able to disagree without being disagreeable again. Then we can continue to make changes to make this country equal for all, which will take time, but has been stymied and set back.
America is a great country. It's not greatest country in the world, it's simply a great country. And it is based on an idea that this President wants to kill.
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster.
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
He can sound however he wants, he's still the oldest person running for President.
I'm not arguing about him being the oldest person running for President. No need to age-shame the man.
What I said is simply a fact and it was in response to you saying this about Biden "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century" - that was age shaming.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
interesting point of view. especially given the population is slight majority women.
yes i'm sure some sexism plays a part but i am still completely baffled by women who voted for Trump. I know many education and intelligent women who admit to voting for the guy. I honestly can't fathom how any woman could have voted for the guy over Hillary.
and to be honest in this election cycle I'm not necessarily interested in voting for the best Dem candidate. I'm interested in voting for the DEM candidate who has the best chance to beat Trump. I almost don't care about their policies this cycle. It's ONLY about getting this guy out of office ASAP. I'll deal with any policy consequences after the fact.
I would guess Religion is the top answer on the board
There are some women that will vote against their interests, laugh at jokes that are demeaning to women, put up with unequal treatment at work - it is just how it always has been and it is how it is. Especially if this was the thinking of their parents and is the thinking of their husband and social group. Other women would rather gauge out their eyes before voting for him.
Religion being the top answer makes 0 sense in regards to voting for Trump.
My thought process was the Religious Right. I know some people who only vote Republican because of their abortion stance. I also know some people who still think "the gays" go to hell. I hold that religion is a top reason a self respecting woman might vote for him. My opinion....could be that it is wrong.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
interesting point of view. especially given the population is slight majority women.
yes i'm sure some sexism plays a part but i am still completely baffled by women who voted for Trump. I know many education and intelligent women who admit to voting for the guy. I honestly can't fathom how any woman could have voted for the guy over Hillary.
and to be honest in this election cycle I'm not necessarily interested in voting for the best Dem candidate. I'm interested in voting for the DEM candidate who has the best chance to beat Trump. I almost don't care about their policies this cycle. It's ONLY about getting this guy out of office ASAP. I'll deal with any policy consequences after the fact.
I would guess Religion is the top answer on the board
There are some women that will vote against their interests, laugh at jokes that are demeaning to women, put up with unequal treatment at work - it is just how it always has been and it is how it is. Especially if this was the thinking of their parents and is the thinking of their husband and social group. Other women would rather gauge out their eyes before voting for him.
Religion being the top answer makes 0 sense in regards to voting for Trump.
My thought process was the Religious Right. I know some people who only vote Republican because of their abortion stance. I also know some people who still think "the gays" go to hell. I hold that religion is a top reason a self respecting woman might vote for him. My opinion....could be that it is wrong.
Yeah, the Religious Right seem obsessed with nitpicking parts of the Bible and ignoring the actual things that is attributed to Jesus' teachings like 'love your neighbor', judge not lest ye be judged, let those without sin cast the first stone. It seems to be all about who is bad in their eyes and not about trying to live life as a good person and turning the other cheek. I'm not religious, but I just find the RR to be a bunch of hypocrites. Believe what you wish but don't shove it down my throat.
It's amazing how the RR have stood behind Trump (who never held their beliefs until he decided to run as a Republican and probably really doesn't care about these issues except to get support) and when any transgression pops up they ignore it or say it was in the past, move along. Yet they demonize other people. Selective religious outrage. Ugh.
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
interesting point of view. especially given the population is slight majority women.
yes i'm sure some sexism plays a part but i am still completely baffled by women who voted for Trump. I know many education and intelligent women who admit to voting for the guy. I honestly can't fathom how any woman could have voted for the guy over Hillary.
and to be honest in this election cycle I'm not necessarily interested in voting for the best Dem candidate. I'm interested in voting for the DEM candidate who has the best chance to beat Trump. I almost don't care about their policies this cycle. It's ONLY about getting this guy out of office ASAP. I'll deal with any policy consequences after the fact.
I would guess Religion is the top answer on the board
There are some women that will vote against their interests, laugh at jokes that are demeaning to women, put up with unequal treatment at work - it is just how it always has been and it is how it is. Especially if this was the thinking of their parents and is the thinking of their husband and social group. Other women would rather gauge out their eyes before voting for him.
Religion being the top answer makes 0 sense in regards to voting for Trump.
No it doesn't. It's about abortion. And look at Trump's judges.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
interesting point of view. especially given the population is slight majority women.
yes i'm sure some sexism plays a part but i am still completely baffled by women who voted for Trump. I know many education and intelligent women who admit to voting for the guy. I honestly can't fathom how any woman could have voted for the guy over Hillary.
and to be honest in this election cycle I'm not necessarily interested in voting for the best Dem candidate. I'm interested in voting for the DEM candidate who has the best chance to beat Trump. I almost don't care about their policies this cycle. It's ONLY about getting this guy out of office ASAP. I'll deal with any policy consequences after the fact.
I would guess Religion is the top answer on the board
There are some women that will vote against their interests, laugh at jokes that are demeaning to women, put up with unequal treatment at work - it is just how it always has been and it is how it is. Especially if this was the thinking of their parents and is the thinking of their husband and social group. Other women would rather gauge out their eyes before voting for him.
Religion being the top answer makes 0 sense in regards to voting for Trump.
No it doesn't. It's about abortion. And look at Trump's judges.
I see how it makes sense in how Trump changed his beliefs in order to run as he did and that these are people who are single issue voters. Abortion and judges who will overturn Roe v. Wade. That makes sense.
It's just so hypocritical with the life that Trump has led and the way he lives his life and conducts himself. But RR doesn't care about actual religion, they want to impose their beliefs on abortion on everyone. I wonder why they don't feel the same way about the death penalty? Always baffled me. If killing is wrong, then it's a blanket statement. Or not.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
interesting point of view. especially given the population is slight majority women.
yes i'm sure some sexism plays a part but i am still completely baffled by women who voted for Trump. I know many education and intelligent women who admit to voting for the guy. I honestly can't fathom how any woman could have voted for the guy over Hillary.
and to be honest in this election cycle I'm not necessarily interested in voting for the best Dem candidate. I'm interested in voting for the DEM candidate who has the best chance to beat Trump. I almost don't care about their policies this cycle. It's ONLY about getting this guy out of office ASAP. I'll deal with any policy consequences after the fact.
I would guess Religion is the top answer on the board
There are some women that will vote against their interests, laugh at jokes that are demeaning to women, put up with unequal treatment at work - it is just how it always has been and it is how it is. Especially if this was the thinking of their parents and is the thinking of their husband and social group. Other women would rather gauge out their eyes before voting for him.
Religion being the top answer makes 0 sense in regards to voting for Trump.
My thought process was the Religious Right. I know some people who only vote Republican because of their abortion stance. I also know some people who still think "the gays" go to hell. I hold that religion is a top reason a self respecting woman might vote for him. My opinion....could be that it is wrong.
Yeah, the Religious Right seem obsessed with nitpicking parts of the Bible and ignoring the actual things that is attributed to Jesus' teachings like 'love your neighbor', judge not lest ye be judged, let those without sin cast the first stone. It seems to be all about who is bad in their eyes and not about trying to live life as a good person and turning the other cheek. I'm not religious, but I just find the RR to be a bunch of hypocrites. Believe what you wish but don't shove it down my throat.
It's amazing how the RR have stood behind Trump (who never held their beliefs until he decided to run as a Republican and probably really doesn't care about these issues except to get support) and when any transgression pops up they ignore it or say it was in the past, move along. Yet they demonize other people. Selective religious outrage. Ugh.
Yep. My mother in law is one of these fucking morons. One of her childhood friends came out as a lesbian once she reached mid-life. My wife asked her recently, after we learned that she told our nephew that gay people go to hell, how she could think that and be friends with a lesbian. Her retort: "Oh, I love her and accept that she chooses to be gay. She is still going to hell."
Fuck all of those people. If you were to meet my Mother in Law you would think she is the nicest person in the world. She is nice to everyone and tries to help everyone. Yet, her upbringing and religious teachings contributed to her having shitty, mean, thoughts and to being a Trump supporter even though she is "appalled" at his behavior toward women.
A lot of fucked up in the world.
Anyway....hope there is a candidate that we do not know much about yet and who will lead the march to overthrow the Grand Wizard Trump. (And hopefully not someone who is going to be in their frigging 80s during term.)
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
I can't help that you quote me before I've had the chance to edit and add to my post...
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
I can't help that you quote me before I've had the chance to edit and add to my post...
That's not how message boards work. It's not a reader's responsibility to question whether you've had ample time to sanitize the words you say.
You'll see plenty of examples where I backtracked something I said, and I do so by adding a big "EDIT: .....", and leaving my original shitty messages fully visible. The words you put on here (or anywhere publicly frankly), you have to own them as they were originally read, as they were originally stated by you.
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Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
I can't help that you quote me before I've had the chance to edit and add to my post...
That's not how message boards work. It's not a reader's responsibility to question whether you've had ample time to sanitize the words you say.
You'll see plenty of examples where I backtracked something I said, and I do so by adding a big "EDIT: .....", and leaving my original shitty messages fully visible. The words you put on here (or anywhere publicly frankly), you have to own them as they were originally read, as they were originally stated by you.
It's not your role to dictate how other people edit their posts. I think this "you must leave your original statements as they were" idea is completely unreasonable. We can edit our posts anyway we want to. I personally edit my posts all the time because I decided I wanted to add ideas or be more specific than I was the first time around, and like it that way! (I just did it with this very post! Ha!). I do not expect people to wait for me to have time to do so though - if someone replies to the original before I posted an edit, I usually mention to them that I actually updated the post they quoted, in case they're interested in readdressing the edited version.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
I can't help that you quote me before I've had the chance to edit and add to my post...
That's not how message boards work. It's not a reader's responsibility to question whether you've had ample time to sanitize the words you say.
You'll see plenty of examples where I backtracked something I said, and I do so by adding a big "EDIT: .....", and leaving my original shitty messages fully visible. The words you put on here (or anywhere publicly frankly), you have to own them as they were originally read, as they were originally stated by you.
It's not your role to dictate how other people edit their posts. We can edit our posts anyway we want to. I personally edit my posts all the time because I decided I wanted to add stuff, and like it that way! (I just did it with this very post! Ha!). I do not expect people to wait for me to have time to do so though - if someone replies to the original before I posted an edit, I usually mention to them that I actually updated the post they quoted, in case they're interested in readdressing the edited version.
I was just coming here to say that this is a real problem with PJ's posts. she edits almost every single one of them. I always give her ample time to edit before I reply. LOL
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
I can't help that you quote me before I've had the chance to edit and add to my post...
That's not how message boards work. It's not a reader's responsibility to question whether you've had ample time to sanitize the words you say.
You'll see plenty of examples where I backtracked something I said, and I do so by adding a big "EDIT: .....", and leaving my original shitty messages fully visible. The words you put on here (or anywhere publicly frankly), you have to own them as they were originally read, as they were originally stated by you.
It's not your role to dictate how other people edit their posts. We can edit our posts anyway we want to. I personally edit my posts all the time because I decided I wanted to add stuff, and like it that way! (I just did it with this very post! Ha!). I do not expect people to wait for me to have time to do so though - if someone replies to the original before I posted an edit, I usually mention to them that I actually updated the post they quoted, in case they're interested in readdressing the edited version.
I was just coming here to say that this is a real problem with PJ's posts. she edits almost every single one of them. I always give her ample time to edit before I reply. LOL
And I even changed it from what you quoted a little bit again! Hey, it works for me.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
I can't help that you quote me before I've had the chance to edit and add to my post...
That's not how message boards work. It's not a reader's responsibility to question whether you've had ample time to sanitize the words you say.
You'll see plenty of examples where I backtracked something I said, and I do so by adding a big "EDIT: .....", and leaving my original shitty messages fully visible. The words you put on here (or anywhere publicly frankly), you have to own them as they were originally read, as they were originally stated by you.
It's not your role to dictate how other people edit their posts. I think this "you must leave your original statements as they were" idea is completely unreasonable. We can edit our posts anyway we want to. I personally edit my posts all the time because I decided I wanted to add ideas or be more specific than I was the first time around, and like it that way! (I just did it with this very post! Ha!). I do not expect people to wait for me to have time to do so though - if someone replies to the original before I posted an edit, I usually mention to them that I actually updated the post they quoted, in case they're interested in readdressing the edited version.
I fully expected you to enter a discussion about editing posts
Biden sounds like an "all words" kind of guy. A lot of talk about fluffy stuff - "this is what America is all about, this is our spirit - to say thank you to one another like we did back when I grew up in the 17th century".
But I guess we'll see. Wonder if he's aware that America does a few things backwards compared to e.g. Europe, like Bernie does.
Sanders is older than Biden. So did he grow up in the 16th century? The man is in his 70's, he thinks that this country has been pulled apart and we are at each other's throats. This is true. Why do you make fun of him for wanting comity in governing and healing in the country. Biden has his baggage, just like every other candidate, but making fun of him for wanting to heal the country and his age (when the other front runner and the President are both in their 70's also) just looks like nitpicking. I haven't seen you make fun of Sander's age. Gotta be consistent with the pros and cons.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
You completely rewrote your response and I find what you wrote to not be worth answering. You are better than that.
What?
You wrote one response and I answered it. Then I saw that you had added stuff about Bernie's cool iPhone and Biden having some ridiculous, based on I don't know what, listening device. It changed the entire tenor of your question.
I can't help that you quote me before I've had the chance to edit and add to my post...
That's not how message boards work. It's not a reader's responsibility to question whether you've had ample time to sanitize the words you say.
You'll see plenty of examples where I backtracked something I said, and I do so by adding a big "EDIT: .....", and leaving my original shitty messages fully visible. The words you put on here (or anywhere publicly frankly), you have to own them as they were originally read, as they were originally stated by you.
It was a tounge in cheek response to Njnancy you.. you... stiff. Hold those horses of yours. Ofc it's not her responsibility. But there is also an edit-function there for a reason, sometimes you want to swap out a gif or quote a different pearl jam song. It's a give and take.
And, I didn't change or redact anything - I just added to it. A bit of tounge in cheek:ness. Or am I miss remembering my before and after post? Then I'll use an EDIT: to this post owning it.
BTW -- I "EDIT:" all the time. Don't try to lecture a millennial (I guess, sort of) on how to use a message board.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
The longer Directors Cut:
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Who the hell would use "EDIT:" to add some jokey text.
EDIT: Oh wait, I came up with something funny. So after you've read my post above and come all the way down here. You can now read the joke out of context. But if you wish, you can copy it, and paste it into Word where it is suppose to belong in the original text that's written about this "EDIT:"-part. And get the context.
:P
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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I like that he's making the moral argument, not the policy one. Time for wonkishness later.
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
I wasn’t very inspired by the kickoff video or campaign rollout, but seeing Trump go on the defensive this morning over his Charlottesville comments is a good start.
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Healing the country is wanting people to stop hating each other, to stop letting white supremacists think that they are 'good people', stop caging children and demeaning immigrants and brown people and scary religions and women who don't know their place, ya know, being a decent human being instead of racists angry POS's. I
Make America Great Again is a desperate cry by white people who see that they will no longer be the majority in the country shortly. It is anti immigrant (even though we are all immigrants), pro white power, racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti progressive ideas.
They are completely different and MAGA has caused the country to splinter in such a horrendous way that someone needs to heal this country or our democracy will fail.
America is a great country. It's not greatest country in the world, it's simply a great country. And it is based on an idea that this President wants to kill.
I know some people who only vote Republican because of their abortion stance. I also know some people who still think "the gays" go to hell.
I hold that religion is a top reason a self respecting woman might vote for him.
My opinion....could be that it is wrong.
It's amazing how the RR have stood behind Trump (who never held their beliefs until he decided to run as a Republican and probably really doesn't care about these issues except to get support) and when any transgression pops up they ignore it or say it was in the past, move along. Yet they demonize other people. Selective religious outrage. Ugh.
It's just so hypocritical with the life that Trump has led and the way he lives his life and conducts himself. But RR doesn't care about actual religion, they want to impose their beliefs on abortion on everyone. I wonder why they don't feel the same way about the death penalty? Always baffled me. If killing is wrong, then it's a blanket statement. Or not.
But I do get the abortion/judge reasoning.
You'll see plenty of examples where I backtracked something I said, and I do so by adding a big "EDIT: .....", and leaving my original shitty messages fully visible. The words you put on here (or anywhere publicly frankly), you have to own them as they were originally read, as they were originally stated by you.
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And, I didn't change or redact anything - I just added to it. A bit of tounge in cheek:ness. Or am I miss remembering my before and after post? Then I'll use an EDIT: to this post owning it.
BTW -- I "EDIT:" all the time. Don't try to lecture a millennial (I guess, sort of) on how to use a message board.
Bernie sounds like a young hipster.
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
The longer Directors Cut:
Bernie sounds like a young hipster. I bet he's got some Post Malone on his Iphone X. Biden only listens to "the wind carrying the spirit of the country and soaring eagles in the great american sky. A sky like no other country has ever seen. Heil Hydra"
What's the difference between "heal the country" and "make america great again". When was it ever great? When was it ever healed?
EDIT: Oh wait, I came up with something funny. So after you've read my post above and come all the way down here. You can now read the joke out of context. But if you wish, you can copy it, and paste it into Word where it is suppose to belong in the original text that's written about this "EDIT:"-part. And get the context.
:P