Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.
And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.
FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
Not a fan of warren at all. I really think Biden and Beto could beat trump/pence. Beto could actually make Texas close.
That you are not a fan of her is neither here nor there in terms of what I'm saying here though.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.
And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.
FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
I don't think that's a fair statement to us.
Second, I don't like what Warren is bringing. She's just throwing every possible policy against the wall and seeing what sticks. I mean, break up Amazon and Google? Are you kidding me? Im not voting for that.
I like Biden because he's moderate. Im a moderate. I tend to believe Harris is closer to moderate but I don't know enough yet. Biden is known to me and he brings a wealth of experience particularly in foreign policy. Warren, Harris and Amy don't come close.
as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.
I don't agree with that, based on who I want on the ticket to lead the country I live in....but, I get what you are saying and know that many believe that statement. (In general, but especially in the efforts to topple The Grand Wizard Trump.)
as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.
What if there are several options that would help with that though?
As in, it's not being a case like this:
isn't that why running mates are usually chosen quite (relatively) late in the process? to see where a candidate is weakest so they can pick a running mate who makes up for those weaknesses?
as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.
What if there are several options that would help with that though?
As in, it's not being a case like this:
isn't that why running mates are usually chosen quite (relatively) late in the process? to see where a candidate is weakest so they can pick a running mate who makes up for those weaknesses?
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? Most thoughtful policy solutions of the 21st century? Give me a break. It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
I am not doubting that. I am not deranged.
But, I don't think that's the (sole) reason why Gilibrand and that woman who ate her sallad with a comb is lagging behind in the polls.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
you have now said it twice that you "don't expect any of (us)" to get where you are coming from, but have not stated exactly what you mean by that. spell it out for me.
Why? I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie? Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.
And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.
FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
You think men aren't capable of understanding sexism?
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
You don’t expect me to understand yet I voted for two female candidates in the past two years and they both lost. I think you are being the ignorant one here.
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
You don’t expect me to understand yet I voted for two female candidates in the past two years and they both lost.
The point being...? I imagine you've voted for men in the past that have lost, too.
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What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
You don’t expect me to understand yet I voted for two female candidates in the past two years and they both lost.
The point being...? I imagine you've voted for men in the past that have lost, too.
How could I be sexist if I voted for a female presidential candidate and New Jersey governor?
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
You don’t expect me to understand yet I voted for two female candidates in the past two years and they both lost.
The point being...? I imagine you've voted for men in the past that have lost, too.
How could I be sexist if I voted for a female presidential candidate and New Jersey governor?
Do we have to point out that there's a whole lot more to not being sexist than voting for women twice?
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
You don’t expect me to understand yet I voted for two female candidates in the past two years and they both lost.
The point being...? I imagine you've voted for men in the past that have lost, too.
How could I be sexist if I voted for a female presidential candidate and New Jersey governor?
-- What did them winning or losing have to do with anything?
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
What a dumb dumb dumb article. Breaking up google and amazon and student loan forgiveness is good policy? It’s not that we are sexist, they are just really stupid ideas.
You know I'm not accusing you specifically of being sexist, right?? I'm making a much wider point than that. But as I already said, I really don't expect any of you to get where I'm coming from with this. That doesn't change how deeply I feel it's 100% true that America is absolutely really sexist in its politics (and that that is being reflected in this dem race perfectly well), and I think anyone denying it is being willfully ignorant IMHO.
You don’t expect me to understand yet I voted for two female candidates in the past two years and they both lost. I think you are being the ignorant one here.
That has nothing to do with anything I'm saying.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Second, I don't like what Warren is bringing. She's just throwing every possible policy against the wall and seeing what sticks. I mean, break up Amazon and Google? Are you kidding me? Im not voting for that.
I like Biden because he's moderate. Im a moderate. I tend to believe Harris is closer to moderate but I don't know enough yet. Biden is known to me and he brings a wealth of experience particularly in foreign policy. Warren, Harris and Amy don't come close.
The only thing wrong with Elizabeth Warren’s campaign is the sexist way we react to it
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As in, it's not being a case like this:
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But, I don't think that's the (sole) reason why Gilibrand and that woman who ate her sallad with a comb is lagging behind in the polls.
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Yeah, ok, i'm done here, not much to discuss
The point being...? I imagine you've voted for men in the past that have lost, too.
Haven't watched it, just listened to parts on the radio. Too much stirring music, too much same old, same old, though I assume it has to be that way.
Most of what I dislike about the candidates is what appears to be necessary to have any chance at winning.
Do we have to point out that there's a whole lot more to not being sexist than voting for women twice?
-- What did them winning or losing have to do with anything?