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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Girls night out!!!

    Oh, maybe now its Womens night out!!!

    Lol, gimme a f'ing break
    “Don’t you go complaining about my language, girl!”

    How very progressive. 
    The funny part is 90% of the women in my office refer to each other as "girl" constantly... also when i watch Real Housewives of Atlanta with my gf, they constantly refer to each other as "girl"

    Maybe it's learned? Lol

    Or it is like the N word, where only black people can use it? 

    Some folks are SOOOOOO uptight, do they get out and socialize in the world,  or just read PC guidelines? Lol
    It is.  It's very common.  I do it all the time.  It's just part of our culture.  But a lot of wrong things are part of our culture.  There was a time when we called people "colored."  If you'd been around when we stopped doing it and "PC" had been a term...
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
    More normal to kiss someone on the nose than being a religious nut. 
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,309
    If Trump exhibited the same behavior as Biden there would be a 100 page thread on it right now.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    If you are going to try to make the case that Biden is creepy and/or out of touch, I suggest also referring to adult females as "women."
    Hahahaha “girl” is more offensive than a creepy dude that continues to touch women inappropriately? Interesting priorities.
    As a woman, I say there is nothing "creepy" about Biden at all. He does need to stop being so damned affectionate like that obviously. I'm sure he's now learned his lesson. I'm guessing nobody has called him on it before exactly because it is completely innocent, kind behaviour, and it was awkward to mention.
    I would like to say that I am PISSED that the #metoo movement is being weaponized in this way.
    I don’t think it’s weaponized. This is exactly part of the purpose. To get old creepy guys to understand when they had been creepy and to stop.

    Its fine if you don’t think it’s creepy. The ladies who have come out thought it was. I think it is. I wouldn’t leave my daughter alone with him. He obviously doesn’t understand how not to behave like a creep.

    No, it is not part of the purpose IMO. Making a nice, innocent person to look like a creepy pervert is most definitely not part of the purpose. I'm not arguing that he shouldn't stop, but this is a SMEAR campaign, not friendly advice to stop being so friendly and affectionate in a completely non-sexual way. And it is VERY clearly being used as a political weapon in this case.
    Sniffing hair is friendly and affectionate?  Seriously?  Dude is straight up creepy.  What he has been doing is creepy and inappropriate and needs to stop.  And people need to stop making excuses for him.
    Come on Cincy...you mean you do not go around sniffing hair, rubbing noses.  LOL
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
    These are both fucking weird, neither individual has a recorded history of anything beyond 'fucking weird' behaviour. I really think they're cut from the same cloth.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Jason P said:
    If Trump exhibited the same behavior as Biden there would be a 100 page thread on it right now.
    We only need to evaluate his own words to understand his intent.  None of us know Biden's.  We could also count court filings as another point of reference. Or dollars paid to mistresses .
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
    I think, though, that the public and media has its own way of determining what is and is not a non-starter.  Joe is going to be unelectable.  Pence is not.  That's in part because nearly half the country has thrown away any moral code to ride Trump. But it is what it is.  Biden is done.

    That said, there are tiny little things the left is picking apart about most of 'em.  Klobuchar is too pragmatic.  Gillebrand went too hard after Franken.  Hopefully we have more than a picked-apart carcus to run in 2020.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Jason P said:
    If Trump exhibited the same behavior as Biden there would be a 100 page thread on it right now.
    lol
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    benjs said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:

    It's interesting that two of the most vocal anti Biden here, Cincy and Two Hands, are generally critical of Democrats.  Coincidence?
    Coincidence that we try to call it fairly regardless of party? 

    You realize i'm a registered Democrat that has never voted for a Republican, right? that has openly stated i will likely be voting Biden in the primary, and have voted for him previously? That doesn't mean i'm going excuse it away as creepy innocence and try to act like nothing is there... blame Joe not Cincy & I

    And yes, i will always hold my party accountable and to a high standard... and YES i'm always going to question and criticize politicians in all parties, especially my own 

    Feel free to go back to your team sport, go blue! :)
    You haven't said anything positive about a democratic position or negative about a Republican one in forever. If im wrong,  then I apologize.  And I think you've seen me criticize a host of progressive positions where I think they are too liberal. 
    Democrats platform since late 2015: Trump sucks... am i missing something? You really need someone else in this tiny echo chamber repeating that ad nauseam 

    GOP positions, i disagree with 75-90% if them top to bottom,  maybe more... again, you need someone else in here screaming how bad they suck? Fuck dude, how boring do you want this place. It's a rock bands message board, you want me to bang out policy positions with my phone and debate them with people that won't change their mind anyway? Yeah, no thanks. 

    Sorry i dont meet your standards of being a good Democrat, or AMT Team Blue member, i'll try harder 

    What i have been saying for 6 months is being a bunch of elitist name calling assholes isnt going to win 2020, and makes us as bad as those we supposedly despise. And the russian red scare has been oversold. Oh, and cable news is divisive toxic bullshit. 

    It's so funny... if you dont get in lockstep with the bullshit talking points here on the AMT, people think you're GOP or a Trumper lol


    1. On the "name-calling assholes" (which, by the way, ironically you became one of when you wrote this and called 'em all assholes) - I and several other closer-to-DNC-leaners on here have spent great lengths to talk about the counter-productive nature of mocking your debate opponents. That said, I haven't sees any of this effort from you to be above this behaviour to date. You should practice what you preach, or stop preaching. Either would be nice.

    2. You know what happens when everyone agrees about a topic? They stop discussing it because there's nothing to discuss. You're regularly the one who comes on here and reminds people how delusional you find them to be. You keep the conversation you'd like to end alive. More irony.

    3. Cable news IS divisive toxic bullshit. I assume that's where you got the notion that your short list of topics are the only Democratic platform points since 2015.

    4. If you come here to shit on everyone and only point out what they're not, people won't care what you are (GOP, Trumper, Democrat, rhino), and they certainly won't care what you have to say. 

    Take it or leave it, but how you're making your points is not conducive to them being accepted. I won't pretend I feel that I've had much more luck, but I work extremely hard to not be a dick. And I won't ever regret that.
    A point I have tried to make several times. well said benjs. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
    Seems that way.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    If you are going to try to make the case that Biden is creepy and/or out of touch, I suggest also referring to adult females as "women."
    Hahahaha “girl” is more offensive than a creepy dude that continues to touch women inappropriately? Interesting priorities.
    As a woman, I say there is nothing "creepy" about Biden at all. He does need to stop being so damned affectionate like that obviously. I'm sure he's now learned his lesson. I'm guessing nobody has called him on it before exactly because it is completely innocent, kind behaviour, and it was awkward to mention.
    I would like to say that I am PISSED that the #metoo movement is being weaponized in this way.
    I don’t think it’s weaponized. This is exactly part of the purpose. To get old creepy guys to understand when they had been creepy and to stop.

    Its fine if you don’t think it’s creepy. The ladies who have come out thought it was. I think it is. I wouldn’t leave my daughter alone with him. He obviously doesn’t understand how not to behave like a creep.

    No, it is not part of the purpose IMO. Making a nice, innocent person to look like a creepy pervert is most definitely not part of the purpose. I'm not arguing that he shouldn't stop, but this is a SMEAR campaign, not friendly advice to stop being so friendly and affectionate in a completely non-sexual way. And it is VERY clearly being used as a political weapon in this case.
    Sniffing hair is friendly and affectionate?  Seriously?  Dude is straight up creepy.  What he has been doing is creepy and inappropriate and needs to stop.  And people need to stop making excuses for him.
    Come on Cincy...you mean you do not go around sniffing hair, rubbing noses.  LOL
    I'll try it out at the bar tonight...I'll report back...unless of course I'm in jail or the hospital.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    OnWis97 said:
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
    I think, though, that the public and media has its own way of determining what is and is not a non-starter.  Joe is going to be unelectable.  Pence is not.  That's in part because nearly half the country has thrown away any moral code to ride Trump. But it is what it is.  Biden is done.

    That said, there are tiny little things the left is picking apart about most of 'em.  Klobuchar is too pragmatic.  Gillebrand went too hard after Franken.  Hopefully we have more than a picked-apart carcus to run in 2020.
    The Democrats eat their own in the quest for purity and inability to forgive. 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    If you are going to try to make the case that Biden is creepy and/or out of touch, I suggest also referring to adult females as "women."
    Hahahaha “girl” is more offensive than a creepy dude that continues to touch women inappropriately? Interesting priorities.
    As a woman, I say there is nothing "creepy" about Biden at all. He does need to stop being so damned affectionate like that obviously. I'm sure he's now learned his lesson. I'm guessing nobody has called him on it before exactly because it is completely innocent, kind behaviour, and it was awkward to mention.
    I would like to say that I am PISSED that the #metoo movement is being weaponized in this way.
    I don’t think it’s weaponized. This is exactly part of the purpose. To get old creepy guys to understand when they had been creepy and to stop.

    Its fine if you don’t think it’s creepy. The ladies who have come out thought it was. I think it is. I wouldn’t leave my daughter alone with him. He obviously doesn’t understand how not to behave like a creep.

    No, it is not part of the purpose IMO. Making a nice, innocent person to look like a creepy pervert is most definitely not part of the purpose. I'm not arguing that he shouldn't stop, but this is a SMEAR campaign, not friendly advice to stop being so friendly and affectionate in a completely non-sexual way. And it is VERY clearly being used as a political weapon in this case.
    Sniffing hair is friendly and affectionate?  Seriously?  Dude is straight up creepy.  What he has been doing is creepy and inappropriate and needs to stop.  And people need to stop making excuses for him.
    Come on Cincy...you mean you do not go around sniffing hair, rubbing noses.  LOL
    I'll try it out at the bar tonight...I'll report back...unless of course I'm in jail or the hospital.
    LOL...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
    I think, though, that the public and media has its own way of determining what is and is not a non-starter.  Joe is going to be unelectable.  Pence is not.  That's in part because nearly half the country has thrown away any moral code to ride Trump. But it is what it is.  Biden is done.

    That said, there are tiny little things the left is picking apart about most of 'em.  Klobuchar is too pragmatic.  Gillebrand went too hard after Franken.  Hopefully we have more than a picked-apart carcus to run in 2020.
    The Democrats eat their own in the quest for purity and inability to forgive. 
    Yep.  Great can be the enemy of good.  We probably don't have a great candidate but the Dems threaten to tarnish the hell out of any of their own good ones.  I wish I was a conservative.  I'd love watching the Dems destroy their eventual candidate this way while my immoral, perververted, lying, racist shyster breezes through the 2020 election unscathed by his party.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    benjs said:
    republican VP won't have dinner with females and calls his wife mother - creepy as fuck who probably secretly lusts after his own mother
    democratic VP puts his hands on women/colleagues, massages them, sniffs their hair, kisses them on the nose - nice and innocent guy. 
    These are both fucking weird, neither individual has a recorded history of anything beyond 'fucking weird' behaviour. I really think they're cut from the same cloth.
    Mike Pence has his own line of weird.  

    He should be immortalized in bronze just like this.


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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,309
    Biden is a prime example of the problem democrats face going forward.  The weaponizing of outrage for everything over the past several years will eat the party alive within.  Ol Joe probably has the best chance against Trump and the GOP doesn't even need to lift a finger to have him dismissed.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    They better formulate some plan to work against Trumpito...petty differences about stupid shit brought on by other candidates is LAME.

    You know, you're allowed to work together as a team. Seems crazy, right?

    You're may actually need a team to repair the damage this puke has rendered on the Republic.  Rebuilding the State Department is a good place to start.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    Jason P said:
    Biden is a prime example of the problem democrats face going forward.  The weaponizing of outrage for everything over the past several years will eat the party alive within.  Ol Joe probably has the best chance against Trump and the GOP doesn't even need to lift a finger to have him dismissed.
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