Knife and Fork Etiquette

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Jason P said:

Bamboo is pretty environmentally friendly renewable product, yes?

shipping it from china is not tho

PJ_Soul

Smellyman said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

How many plastic forks, spoons, knives and sporks?

Chopsticks aren't environmentally unfriendly.  People are f'ing stupid

Way too many plastic forks, spoons and knives too of course. 40 billion of those each year. That's why so many western cities are now banning them or looking into banning them, along with the straws. And why I said food eaten only with our hands are the best option in this context.

Yes, chopsticks are absolutely environmentally unfriendly. Think about how many trees it takes to make 45 billion pairs of chopsticks dude.

brianlux

European Method

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

How Wooden Chopsticks Are Killing Nature

http://www.ecopedia.com/environment/how-wooden-chopsticks-are-killing-nature/

insane. 

From the link:

"Globally, about 1.4 billion people throw away 80 billion pairs of disposable chopsticks each year"

That is insane!

Jason P

No matter the weapon chosen, using your dominant hand to transfer food to your mouth is the only logical method.  Only a crazy person would do otherwise!  It would be as nuts if one island full of people decided to drive on the left side of the road and 74 other countries followed suit just because this island sent a few wooden ships there a few hundred of years ago.  

kce8

My dominant one is definitely the right hand, but I don't have any problem using the fork with my left hand while holding the knife in my right hand.
It just depends on what you are used to do. If there is no need for a knife I use my right hand only. 
I do not care, as long as you do not shovel the food like an excavator. 
I love using Chopsticks too. Btw you sometimes have to use it like a shovel…  

One way plastic stuff just got banned in the EU, however, it will take a while for the law to be fully implemented.

HughFreakingDillon

it's funny how this is the supposed "american" way, yet I've grown up watching american tv my entire life, and never once did I ever see anyone on tv, while eating a meal, transfer their fork to their other hand. not once. that shit I would have noticed. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

how can two small pieces of wood be environmentally unfriendly? you must mean production, not disposal, correct?

I think when compared to reusable utensils? Comparing throw away chop sticks to forks that are washed and reused? But then again, I’m unsure of which is worse environmentally.

Bottom line: too many people.

Any 'correction' results in another undesirable outcome with its own set of problems.

F Me In The Brain

American Method

HughFreakingDillon said:

it's funny how this is the supposed "american" way, yet I've grown up watching american tv my entire life, and never once did I ever see anyone on tv, while eating a meal, transfer their fork to their other hand. not once. that shit I would have noticed. 

It is the standard here, far and away, based on 44 years of observation and visiting/eating in 45/50 states.

It is an interesting thing to stop and think about, though.

HughFreakingDillon

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

it's funny how this is the supposed "american" way, yet I've grown up watching american tv my entire life, and never once did I ever see anyone on tv, while eating a meal, transfer their fork to their other hand. not once. that shit I would have noticed. 

It is the standard here, far and away, based on 44 years of observation and visiting/eating in 45/50 states.

It is an interesting thing to stop and think about, though.

but do you see people doing this on american tv shows when they are sitting down to dinner? If not, why would that be, if it's the standard?

F Me In The Brain

American Method

HughFreakingDillon said:

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

it's funny how this is the supposed "american" way, yet I've grown up watching american tv my entire life, and never once did I ever see anyone on tv, while eating a meal, transfer their fork to their other hand. not once. that shit I would have noticed. 

It is the standard here, far and away, based on 44 years of observation and visiting/eating in 45/50 states.

It is an interesting thing to stop and think about, though.

but do you see people doing this on american tv shows when they are sitting down to dinner? If not, why would that be, if it's the standard?

Never paid attention but I don't learn from sitcoms about what I can see with my eyes.  I get looking at that when you live in another country, of course.

Gern Blansten

American Method

HughFreakingDillon said:

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

it's funny how this is the supposed "american" way, yet I've grown up watching american tv my entire life, and never once did I ever see anyone on tv, while eating a meal, transfer their fork to their other hand. not once. that shit I would have noticed. 

It is the standard here, far and away, based on 44 years of observation and visiting/eating in 45/50 states.

It is an interesting thing to stop and think about, though.

but do you see people doing this on american tv shows when they are sitting down to dinner? If not, why would that be, if it's the standard?

I have definitely noticed it more...where people on TV, etc. use the Euro style vs American style

Maybe it's because Americans eat so much shit with their hands (i.e. burgers, fries, hot dogs, pizza) 

Gern Blansten

American Method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU&t=229s

Here you see Dad starting off Euro and Mom doing the switch 14 seconds in.  Then Mom does a Euro around 1:16 but switches hands again at 2:41 and seems to follow the American style through until 4:37.

Daughter has clearly been taught by proper human beings as we never see her knife (edit...we do see it around 3:06 but she then switches hands before eating).  She has properly cut everything first and eats with fork in correct (right) hand.

kce8

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

it's funny how this is the supposed "american" way, yet I've grown up watching american tv my entire life, and never once did I ever see anyone on tv, while eating a meal, transfer their fork to their other hand. not once. that shit I would have noticed. 

It is the standard here, far and away, based on 44 years of observation and visiting/eating in 45/50 states.

It is an interesting thing to stop and think about, though.

but do you see people doing this on american tv shows when they are sitting down to dinner? If not, why would that be, if it's the standard?

I have definitely noticed it more...where people on TV, etc. use the Euro style vs American style

Maybe it's because Americans eat so much shit with their hands (i.e. burgers, fries, hot dogs, pizza) 

Lol... I'm trying to remember an American movie scene where someone is eating with a knife and/or a fork now…  

jeffbr

European Method

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU&t=229s

Here you see Dad starting off Euro and Mom doing the switch 14 seconds in.  Then Mom does a Euro around 1:16 but switches hands again at 2:41 and seems to follow the American style through until 4:37.

Daughter has clearly been taught by proper human beings as we never see her knife (edit...we do see it around 3:06 but she then switches hands before eating).  She has properly cut everything first and eats with fork in correct (right) hand.

Ah, but pre-cutting meat beyond a couple of pieces/bites is a breach of etiquette. Same with buttering bread. You don't grab a roll or slice of bread and slather butter on it. You tear a piece, butter that piece, and pop it in your mouth. Tear off and butter the next piece when you're ready for the next bite. 

I was taught table manners early on and of course taught American style. But after spending time in Europe and quickly adopted the European method of using a knife and fork I find it much more efficient and practical.

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU&t=229s

Here you see Dad starting off Euro and Mom doing the switch 14 seconds in.  Then Mom does a Euro around 1:16 but switches hands again at 2:41 and seems to follow the American style through until 4:37.

Daughter has clearly been taught by proper human beings as we never see her knife (edit...we do see it around 3:06 but she then switches hands before eating).  She has properly cut everything first and eats with fork in correct (right) hand.

this arrogance annoys me. "proper human beings"?

Gern Blansten

American Method

jeffbr said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU&t=229s

Here you see Dad starting off Euro and Mom doing the switch 14 seconds in.  Then Mom does a Euro around 1:16 but switches hands again at 2:41 and seems to follow the American style through until 4:37.

Daughter has clearly been taught by proper human beings as we never see her knife (edit...we do see it around 3:06 but she then switches hands before eating).  She has properly cut everything first and eats with fork in correct (right) hand.

Ah, but pre-cutting meat beyond a couple of pieces/bites is a breach of etiquette. Same with buttering bread. You don't grab a roll or slice of bread and slather butter on it. You tear a piece, butter that piece, and pop it in your mouth. Tear off and butter the next piece when you're ready for the next bite. 

I was taught table manners early on and of course taught American style. But after spending time in Europe and quickly adopted the European method of using a knife and fork I find it much more efficient and practical.

I butter the whole damn thing....I'm AMERICAN goddammit 

But yes...I get your point.  The Euro method is more efficient if you are a neanderthal and need to stuff your meat hole with food as efficiently as possible.

Gern Blansten

American Method

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU&t=229s

Here you see Dad starting off Euro and Mom doing the switch 14 seconds in.  Then Mom does a Euro around 1:16 but switches hands again at 2:41 and seems to follow the American style through until 4:37.

Daughter has clearly been taught by proper human beings as we never see her knife (edit...we do see it around 3:06 but she then switches hands before eating).  She has properly cut everything first and eats with fork in correct (right) hand.

this arrogance annoys me. "proper human beings"?

I'm on my AMERICAN high horse.  No offense intended.  I'm a slob in real life.

Gern Blansten

American Method

kce8 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

it's funny how this is the supposed "american" way, yet I've grown up watching american tv my entire life, and never once did I ever see anyone on tv, while eating a meal, transfer their fork to their other hand. not once. that shit I would have noticed. 

It is the standard here, far and away, based on 44 years of observation and visiting/eating in 45/50 states.

It is an interesting thing to stop and think about, though.

but do you see people doing this on american tv shows when they are sitting down to dinner? If not, why would that be, if it's the standard?

I have definitely noticed it more...where people on TV, etc. use the Euro style vs American style

Maybe it's because Americans eat so much shit with their hands (i.e. burgers, fries, hot dogs, pizza) 

Lol... I'm trying to remember an American movie scene where someone is eating with a knife and/or a fork now…  

I have no evidence but it might also relate to keeping things simple especially on TV.  Who wants to actually eat something while filming a sitcom, etc.  

jeffbr

European Method

Gern Blansten said:

jeffbr said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU&t=229s

Here you see Dad starting off Euro and Mom doing the switch 14 seconds in.  Then Mom does a Euro around 1:16 but switches hands again at 2:41 and seems to follow the American style through until 4:37.

Daughter has clearly been taught by proper human beings as we never see her knife (edit...we do see it around 3:06 but she then switches hands before eating).  She has properly cut everything first and eats with fork in correct (right) hand.

Ah, but pre-cutting meat beyond a couple of pieces/bites is a breach of etiquette. Same with buttering bread. You don't grab a roll or slice of bread and slather butter on it. You tear a piece, butter that piece, and pop it in your mouth. Tear off and butter the next piece when you're ready for the next bite. 

I was taught table manners early on and of course taught American style. But after spending time in Europe and quickly adopted the European method of using a knife and fork I find it much more efficient and practical.

I butter the whole damn thing....I'm AMERICAN goddammit 

But yes...I get your point.  The Euro method is more efficient if you are a neanderthal and need to stuff your meat hole with food as efficiently as possible.

Well, both Euro and American style can be refined or neanderthal. With either method I've seen people cut up absolutely everything on their plate, mix things together, and grab the utensils with ham fists and shovel away. I also dislike seeing people do a reverse grip on the fork to stab the meat, looking like they're driving a stake through Dracula's heart, and slicing away with furious sawing motions. Ugh. 

Gern Blansten

American Method

jeffbr said:

Gern Blansten said:

jeffbr said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU&t=229s

Here you see Dad starting off Euro and Mom doing the switch 14 seconds in.  Then Mom does a Euro around 1:16 but switches hands again at 2:41 and seems to follow the American style through until 4:37.

Daughter has clearly been taught by proper human beings as we never see her knife (edit...we do see it around 3:06 but she then switches hands before eating).  She has properly cut everything first and eats with fork in correct (right) hand.

Ah, but pre-cutting meat beyond a couple of pieces/bites is a breach of etiquette. Same with buttering bread. You don't grab a roll or slice of bread and slather butter on it. You tear a piece, butter that piece, and pop it in your mouth. Tear off and butter the next piece when you're ready for the next bite. 

I was taught table manners early on and of course taught American style. But after spending time in Europe and quickly adopted the European method of using a knife and fork I find it much more efficient and practical.

I butter the whole damn thing....I'm AMERICAN goddammit 

But yes...I get your point.  The Euro method is more efficient if you are a neanderthal and need to stuff your meat hole with food as efficiently as possible.

Well, both Euro and American style can be refined or neanderthal. With either method I've seen people cut up absolutely everything on their plate, mix things together, and grab the utensils with ham fists and shovel away. I also dislike seeing people do a reverse grip on the fork to stab the meat, looking like they're driving a stake through Dracula's heart, and slicing away with furious sawing motions. Ugh. 

I probably had an odd upbringing.  My Dad was relentless about not making noise when you chewed, swallowed, etc.  No slurping, no chewing potato chips with your mouth open, etc.