Knife and Fork Etiquette

PJ_Soul

F Me In The Brain said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

I like using chopsticks, but it SUCKS when you're dealing with something bigger than comfortably bite sized.

BTW, Just randomly FYI, I saw something about how to properly eat sushi the other day (it was a video with a top Japanese sushi chef), and I bet we're all doing it wrong, one way or another. You are NOT supposed to eat sushi rolls that have the seaweed on the outside (i.e. tuna roll, kapa roll, etc) with chopsticks. You are supposed to just pick those up with your hand. But the rolls with the rice on the outside should be eaten with chopsticks. Also, you are not supposed to pair the ginger with any of your food, as I know many do (I don't, as I hate raw ginger). That is meant solely as a pallet cleanser, and should be eaten only between different kinds of sushi. Finally, it is apparently a faux pas to mix some wasabi in with your soy sauce... In fact, they say nobody should ever add wasabi to any rolls or nigiri either, because both should already have the perfect amount on it. The extra wasabi on the side is meant for sashimi only. Finally, you're supposed to dip nigiri fish side down in the soy sauce. You're not supposed to soak up the sauce with the rice side, as it absorbs too much.

You would lose this bet.

Since you venture down my path (the path of the sushi snob) I would add that you should not be eating sushi rolls at a high end place with any top chef.  Certainly not any with the nori on the outside.  I can concede a good hand roll can be eaten, however.

Eat the sashimi....or if you are set on it, the nigiri.  Also, if the chef suggests nigiri, go with it.  

Seriously.  Eat the sashimi.

I have never seen anyone adding the ginger to their food.  What a great way to fucking ruin the taste.  Must be at a 19.99 all you can eat shithole place to do that.  I would laugh and probably take a picture of the bear eating outside of the zoo if I saw that.

The reason for not putting the rice into the soy sauce is because it is offensive.  Proper sushi chefs pride themselves on the complex preparation of their rice.  To watch some dope slop it through the soy sauce and completely ruin the texture and taste is offensive.

Best rules?  Learn these, find a good place, and then visit the same chef over and over.  Share with them what you love and what you like less.  Do what they tell you.  If you are in the right type of place they will always take care of you.

None of that works for me. I literally cannot eat sashimi. I want to. I just can't. I have some serious texture issues, and eating sashimi literally makes me throw up in my mouth before I can even swallow it. The only Japanese food I can eat is the cooked stuff. Tempura and gyoza and teriyaki and shit. And California and dynamite rolls (yes, I know those are poo-pooed, don't care).

As for the rest.... I figure people should pretty much eat their food the way they like eating their food, in this context. If someone prefers their nigiri soaked in soy sauce, then they should fucking soak it in soy sauce. I have personally never in my life seen a sushi chef at a restaurant scrutinizing the diners as they eat, lol, so offending the chef is really a non-issue. I just posted what I did for information's sake, not to dictate how people should actually do it.

FWIW, you're 100% right about you being a sushi snob, lol. Wtf. You're actually taking it to an all new level. Vancouver is one of the top places for sushi on the face of the planet, and I've never met anyone as snobby as your are about it.

mcgruff10

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

mcgruff10

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

brianlux

European Method

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

josevolution

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

I burn all my chopsticks in my wood burning stove lol I’m not lying lol 

PJ_Soul

josevolution said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

I burn all my chopsticks in my wood burning stove lol I’m not lying lol 

That's better than nothing, for sure, lol.

josevolution

mcgruff10 said:

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

lol good catch 

F Me In The Brain

American Method

PJ_Soul said:

F Me In The Brain said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

I like using chopsticks, but it SUCKS when you're dealing with something bigger than comfortably bite sized.

BTW, Just randomly FYI, I saw something about how to properly eat sushi the other day (it was a video with a top Japanese sushi chef), and I bet we're all doing it wrong, one way or another. You are NOT supposed to eat sushi rolls that have the seaweed on the outside (i.e. tuna roll, kapa roll, etc) with chopsticks. You are supposed to just pick those up with your hand. But the rolls with the rice on the outside should be eaten with chopsticks. Also, you are not supposed to pair the ginger with any of your food, as I know many do (I don't, as I hate raw ginger). That is meant solely as a pallet cleanser, and should be eaten only between different kinds of sushi. Finally, it is apparently a faux pas to mix some wasabi in with your soy sauce... In fact, they say nobody should ever add wasabi to any rolls or nigiri either, because both should already have the perfect amount on it. The extra wasabi on the side is meant for sashimi only. Finally, you're supposed to dip nigiri fish side down in the soy sauce. You're not supposed to soak up the sauce with the rice side, as it absorbs too much.

You would lose this bet.

Since you venture down my path (the path of the sushi snob) I would add that you should not be eating sushi rolls at a high end place with any top chef.  Certainly not any with the nori on the outside.  I can concede a good hand roll can be eaten, however.

Eat the sashimi....or if you are set on it, the nigiri.  Also, if the chef suggests nigiri, go with it.  

Seriously.  Eat the sashimi.

I have never seen anyone adding the ginger to their food.  What a great way to fucking ruin the taste.  Must be at a 19.99 all you can eat shithole place to do that.  I would laugh and probably take a picture of the bear eating outside of the zoo if I saw that.

The reason for not putting the rice into the soy sauce is because it is offensive.  Proper sushi chefs pride themselves on the complex preparation of their rice.  To watch some dope slop it through the soy sauce and completely ruin the texture and taste is offensive.

Best rules?  Learn these, find a good place, and then visit the same chef over and over.  Share with them what you love and what you like less.  Do what they tell you.  If you are in the right type of place they will always take care of you.

None of that works for me. I literally cannot eat sashimi. I want to. I just can't. I have some serious texture issues, and eating sashimi literally makes me throw up in my mouth before I can even swallow it. The only Japanese food I can eat is the cooked stuff. Tempura and gyoza and teriyaki and shit. And California and dynamite rolls (yes, I know those are poo-pooed, don't care).

As for the rest.... I figure people should pretty much eat their food the way they like eating their food, in this context. If someone prefers their nigiri soaked in soy sauce, then they should fucking soak it in soy sauce. I have personally never in my life seen a sushi chef at a restaurant scrutinizing the diners as they eat, lol, so offending the chef is really a non-issue. I just posted what I did for information's sake, not to dictate how people should actually do it.

FWIW, you're 100% right about you being a sushi snob, lol. Wtf. You're actually taking it to an all new level. Vancouver is one of the top places for sushi on the face of the planet, and I've never met anyone as snobby as your are about it.

I take this as a compliment. 

None of what I said was incorrect.  I get that it doesn't work for you -- but I don't make the rules...I just learned them.  It is my favorite experience with eating and I love being one of the small % of round eyes who knows what is up when I sit down at a banging sushi bar.

PJ_Soul

F Me In The Brain said:

PJ_Soul said:

F Me In The Brain said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

I like using chopsticks, but it SUCKS when you're dealing with something bigger than comfortably bite sized.

BTW, Just randomly FYI, I saw something about how to properly eat sushi the other day (it was a video with a top Japanese sushi chef), and I bet we're all doing it wrong, one way or another. You are NOT supposed to eat sushi rolls that have the seaweed on the outside (i.e. tuna roll, kapa roll, etc) with chopsticks. You are supposed to just pick those up with your hand. But the rolls with the rice on the outside should be eaten with chopsticks. Also, you are not supposed to pair the ginger with any of your food, as I know many do (I don't, as I hate raw ginger). That is meant solely as a pallet cleanser, and should be eaten only between different kinds of sushi. Finally, it is apparently a faux pas to mix some wasabi in with your soy sauce... In fact, they say nobody should ever add wasabi to any rolls or nigiri either, because both should already have the perfect amount on it. The extra wasabi on the side is meant for sashimi only. Finally, you're supposed to dip nigiri fish side down in the soy sauce. You're not supposed to soak up the sauce with the rice side, as it absorbs too much.

You would lose this bet.

Since you venture down my path (the path of the sushi snob) I would add that you should not be eating sushi rolls at a high end place with any top chef.  Certainly not any with the nori on the outside.  I can concede a good hand roll can be eaten, however.

Eat the sashimi....or if you are set on it, the nigiri.  Also, if the chef suggests nigiri, go with it.  

Seriously.  Eat the sashimi.

I have never seen anyone adding the ginger to their food.  What a great way to fucking ruin the taste.  Must be at a 19.99 all you can eat shithole place to do that.  I would laugh and probably take a picture of the bear eating outside of the zoo if I saw that.

The reason for not putting the rice into the soy sauce is because it is offensive.  Proper sushi chefs pride themselves on the complex preparation of their rice.  To watch some dope slop it through the soy sauce and completely ruin the texture and taste is offensive.

Best rules?  Learn these, find a good place, and then visit the same chef over and over.  Share with them what you love and what you like less.  Do what they tell you.  If you are in the right type of place they will always take care of you.

None of that works for me. I literally cannot eat sashimi. I want to. I just can't. I have some serious texture issues, and eating sashimi literally makes me throw up in my mouth before I can even swallow it. The only Japanese food I can eat is the cooked stuff. Tempura and gyoza and teriyaki and shit. And California and dynamite rolls (yes, I know those are poo-pooed, don't care).

As for the rest.... I figure people should pretty much eat their food the way they like eating their food, in this context. If someone prefers their nigiri soaked in soy sauce, then they should fucking soak it in soy sauce. I have personally never in my life seen a sushi chef at a restaurant scrutinizing the diners as they eat, lol, so offending the chef is really a non-issue. I just posted what I did for information's sake, not to dictate how people should actually do it.

FWIW, you're 100% right about you being a sushi snob, lol. Wtf. You're actually taking it to an all new level. Vancouver is one of the top places for sushi on the face of the planet, and I've never met anyone as snobby as your are about it.

I take this as a compliment. 

None of what I said was incorrect.  I get that it doesn't work for you -- but I don't make the rules...I just learned them.  It is my favorite experience with eating and I love being one of the small % of round eyes who knows what is up when I sit down at a banging sushi bar.

It didn't even cross my mind that anything said was incorrect... You may be misreading my tone.

mcgruff10

josevolution said:

mcgruff10 said:

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

lol good catch 

Lol. You know it. 

rgambs

American Method

Sushi isn't my thing, I think it's overrated, but at the same time, I feel like I sort of get the sushi love.
I can sit down to a nice ripe Chocolate Krim, a just-picked ear of Silver Queen, and a few slivers of onion and feel like a cosmic king that would never deign to eat anything but single ingredient foods of the highest quality...
And then also go make a fatass American "Mexican" casserole complete with taco seasoning, soggy Fritos and packed with Velveeta cheese. 
I love food.

Halifax2TheMax

mcgruff10 said:

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

We all know that you use the chopsticks to stir the ice in your red wine. It’s okay.

mcgruff10

Halifax2TheMax said:

mcgruff10 said:

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

We all know that you use the chopsticks to stir the ice in your red wine. It’s okay.

Ginger, wasabi, soy sauce, three ice cubes and a California cab is spectacular. The secret is to stir clockwise with the chopsticks after each ingredient is added. 

Halifax2TheMax

mcgruff10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mcgruff10 said:

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

We all know that you use the chopsticks to stir the ice in your red wine. It’s okay.

Ginger, wasabi, soy sauce, three ice cubes and a California cab is spectacular. The secret is to stir clockwise with the chopsticks after each ingredient is added. 

Do you sip it or shoot it?

cincybearcat

American Method

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

I burn all my chopsticks in my wood burning stove lol I’m not lying lol 

That's better than nothing, for sure, lol.

Yup air pollution is awesome! So much better than solid waste!

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

I burn all my chopsticks in my wood burning stove lol I’m not lying lol 

That's better than nothing, for sure, lol.

Yup air pollution is awesome! So much better than solid waste!

Haha, yeah, but he'd have a fire either way, so, you know. No difference, just one less pair of chopsticks in the landfill.

brianlux

European Method

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

That's awful (though I could see, like Jose, occasionally using them as kindling).  The solution, of course, is quite simple- pop a pair in the coat pocket or purse before heading to the restaurant. Some even come with a carrying case.   I'm assuming, of course, no one uses disposable chop sticks at home.

mcgruff10

Halifax2TheMax said:

mcgruff10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mcgruff10 said:

You fuckers have been relentless about when I add ice cubes to red wine so I Will not tell you how I eat sushi lol. Brett you would hate me!

We all know that you use the chopsticks to stir the ice in your red wine. It’s okay.

Ginger, wasabi, soy sauce, three ice cubes and a California cab is spectacular. The secret is to stir clockwise with the chopsticks after each ingredient is added. 

Do you sip it or shoot it?

Shoot it!!!

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

josevolution said:

That’s why Japanese & Chinese folk got it right , 🥢 fuck forks & knives 

Chop sticks are great!  We have a bunch them in different styles at home.

Although, I have seen people used them like they were dull skewers.  Pretty embarrassing to see some guy poking at his dim sun with one of them.

The problem with chopsticks are that they are very environmentally unfriendly in general. Not the reusable kind of course, but do you know that 45 BILLION pairs of wooden disposable chopsticks are produced every year??? The best way to eat if we're thinking environmentally is with our hands! Food made to be eaten that way should be encouraged.... Yum, sandwiches.

That's awful (though I could see, like Jose, occasionally using them as kindling).  The solution, of course, is quite simple- pop a pair in the coat pocket or purse before heading to the restaurant. Some even come with a carrying case.   I'm assuming, of course, no one uses disposable chop sticks at home.

If I order Chinese food I do, which is maybe once a year. I don't own reusable chopsticks. I don't use them nearly often enough for that to have occurred to me.