Amazon HQ2 and other news
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Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
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Whoosh!!!cincybearcat said:
Isn’t this 4?dignin said:I think we need another post declaring these are white collar non union jobs. Three in a row isn't quite enough.
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You mean democracy? Politicians are elected by people to go into government to represent them and their values. That's how democracy works. Are you suggesting maybe a different way to go about this? l don't really know what you're getting at here.cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
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Yeah that’s clearly what I meant.dignin said:
You mean democracy? Politicians are elected by people to go into government to represent them and their values. That's how democracy works. Are you suggesting maybe a different way to go about this? l don't really know what you're getting at here.cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
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Care to answer me then? I was asking questions, unlike your tactic of putting words in other people's mouths like in the above.cincybearcat said:
Yeah that’s clearly what I meant.dignin said:
You mean democracy? Politicians are elected by people to go into government to represent them and their values. That's how democracy works. Are you suggesting maybe a different way to go about this? l don't really know what you're getting at here.cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
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dignin said:
Care to answer me then? I was asking questions, unlike your tactic of putting words in other people's mouths like in the above.cincybearcat said:
Yeah that’s clearly what I meant.dignin said:
You mean democracy? Politicians are elected by people to go into government to represent them and their values. That's how democracy works. Are you suggesting maybe a different way to go about this? l don't really know what you're getting at here.cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
Whoops wasnt you.Post edited by cincybearcat onhippiemom = goodness0 -
I think lots of people like to go around and blame every problem on business. Especially larger companies. It happens all the time. I think a lot of that is nonsense.dignin said:
Care to answer me then? I was asking questions, unlike your tactic of putting words in other people's mouths like in the above.cincybearcat said:
Yeah that’s clearly what I meant.dignin said:
You mean democracy? Politicians are elected by people to go into government to represent them and their values. That's how democracy works. Are you suggesting maybe a different way to go about this? l don't really know what you're getting at here.cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
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Yeah I probably do that, and maybe too much. But please don’t pretend you didn’t just do the same exact thing.dignin said:
Care to answer me then? I was asking questions, unlike your tactic of putting words in other people's mouths like in the above.cincybearcat said:
Yeah that’s clearly what I meant.dignin said:
You mean democracy? Politicians are elected by people to go into government to represent them and their values. That's how democracy works. Are you suggesting maybe a different way to go about this? l don't really know what you're getting at here.cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
You know I’ve been on these forums for a long time. And in the last 2 years it’s seems like there are a lot less people learning and a lot more people who are never willing to admit their faults or when they are wrong. I wonder why?
We also have a moderator regulating name calling while calling people thugs. Interesting change of events here.hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
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I think a nice balance of business and government “checks” are appropriate. Certainly a need for oversight.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
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Wait amazon only takes? Really?bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
who here has used amazon and is thankful for the service they provide?
hiw many people do they employee? How many people sell more stuff and can employee more people because of amazon? Small businesses sell on amazon as well.
I think its ironic that people that are for globalization want nothing g but mom and pop shops. And people who say amazon doesn’t want completion want mom and pop shops to have no competition. People that argue that the ideals of the 50’s that some want to go back to are awful but they want to go back to the 50’s.hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:
I think a nice balance of business and government “checks” are appropriate. Certainly a need for oversight.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
Right. The wealth disparity is just despicable right now. There is clearly a problem. Yeah, Bezos had a great idea, but should he be compensated billions for it? I am turning into a liberal as I age because the inequity of all of this is absurd. Where the line is drawn I can't say.
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Yeah I get that. I have a really good friend who is very successful and still continues to be more and more concerned about the wealth gap. Less for those that take risk and build something. He thinks the government should have a huge “death tax”. So the one that does the work earns the $ but doesn’t create generational wealth and just keeps growing for family members. I disagree a lot but I understand the sentinment. I imagine again decent compromise could be made if politicians hadn’t become so divisive...and if Fox News and msnbc stopped using that divisiveness to gain ratings and their own $.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
I think a nice balance of business and government “checks” are appropriate. Certainly a need for oversight.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
Right. The wealth disparity is just despicable right now. There is clearly a problem. Yeah, Bezos had a great idea, but should he be compensated billions for it? I am turning into a liberal as I age because the inequity of all of this is absurd. Where the line is drawn I can't say.hippiemom = goodness0 -
The problem isn't billionaires, the problem is the tax code that renders useless the theory of progressive taxes. Now billionaires certainly influence the tax code, so I'm not arguing that. But I don't have an issue with Bezos or Gates being fabulously wealthy because they had fabulous ideas and executed on them. That's a lot harder than people think.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
I think a nice balance of business and government “checks” are appropriate. Certainly a need for oversight.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
Right. The wealth disparity is just despicable right now. There is clearly a problem. Yeah, Bezos had a great idea, but should he be compensated billions for it? I am turning into a liberal as I age because the inequity of all of this is absurd. Where the line is drawn I can't say.0 -
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At some point the business owner no longer has risk and it shifts to the lendors. Yes, they may guarantee some debt but nothing that is going to cause them to go broke. The wealthy are not going to lose their home. It goes to the old adage, it takes money to make money.cincybearcat said:
Yeah I get that. I have a really good friend who is very successful and still continues to be more and more concerned about the wealth gap. Less for those that take risk and build something. He thinks the government should have a huge “death tax”. So the one that does the work earns the $ but doesn’t create generational wealth and just keeps growing for family members. I disagree a lot but I understand the sentinment. I imagine again decent compromise could be made if politicians hadn’t become so divisive...and if Fox News and msnbc stopped using that divisiveness to gain ratings and their own $.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
I think a nice balance of business and government “checks” are appropriate. Certainly a need for oversight.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
Right. The wealth disparity is just despicable right now. There is clearly a problem. Yeah, Bezos had a great idea, but should he be compensated billions for it? I am turning into a liberal as I age because the inequity of all of this is absurd. Where the line is drawn I can't say.0 -
Not accurate, I don't believe. Amazon paused construction on a new site in the city when the tax was going to be $500 per employee, per year. After it was lowered to 275, Amazon resumed construction. According to the info I just saw, that's 47 million per year.bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:
Of course. Business are to blame for everything and only politicians can save us!mrussel1 said:
You think Seattle's homeless issue is due to Amazon's proximity?bootlegger10 said:The home of Amazon has a huge homeless problem. A rising tide raises all ships my ass...
If you like no soul for your town and trendy condos then Amazon is your gig.
What do you think the US would look like without government intervention? I would say you'd have polluted rivers, smog, vast monopolies, event greater wealth disparity, etc.... On the flip side, with total government power you have Russia and China which is not good either.
What I was saying is that Amazon's presence provides jobs for that city, but that city like San Francisco is losing its soul (chain stores and restaurants, rising property values that force existing residents out, etc...). It is a trade off and that is all I was saying.
But with Seattle's homeless problem, how did it go when they tried to increase taxes to pay for it? Yeah, Amazon whined like a little baby and said they would take their ball and go home. Amazon only takes. Green Disease.
With this new head tax, it will be interesting to see if the homeless population actually grows, because there is incentive to migrate there.0 -
No one person should be worth billions of dollars. It's insane and immoral.
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So, what’s the max? Who decides? The government?dignin said:No one person should be worth billions of dollars. It's insane and immoral.hippiemom = goodness0
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