Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    it would be the same for me, but of course, i know what you mean. 

    now, i should quantify, i haven't watched many videos of her until today. i found her brash and annoying on social media (which i did mention in my original assessment), but watching her on the floor, i do admire her tenacity and how well she knows the issues. and the videos i have watched (only a couple) she has been level headed but challenging. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    edited May 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    edited May 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread with 49 pages? Why is that?
     
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    I guess we could start one if you d like. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    I guess we could start one if you d like. 
    Feel free. You know I’ll pile on.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    I guess we could start one if you d like. 
    Feel free. You know I’ll pile on.
    Lol. I freaking hate that guy. I just might. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread with 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    well, gee, it MUST be cuz she has a vagina. 

    or, it could be that she is a polarizing figure, got a ton of media attention because of who she beat, and how, and her background. waitress to congress.  

    no, it can't be any of that. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,826
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Hmmm...Rand Paul, trump, dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, grassley, that Iowa female I can’t rememwbr her name... most of the ones I watch on meet the press and face the nation... from the “other side” Bernie, Biden, Warren, Feinstein, waters, pelosi, lots others.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,826
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread with 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    well, gee, it MUST be cuz she has a vagina. 

    or, it could be that she is a polarizing figure, got a ton of media attention because of who she beat, and how, and her background. waitress to congress.  

    no, it can't be any of that. 
    Duh cause someone here lumps everyone with trump and they are all in The trump thread. 


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Hmmm...Rand Paul, trump, dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, grassley, that Iowa female I can’t rememwbr her name... most of the ones I watch on meet the press and face the nation... from the “other side” Bernie, Biden, Warren, Feinstein, waters, pelosi, lots others.
    Let’s make it easy, which few politicians don’t annoy you?
     
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread with 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    well, gee, it MUST be cuz she has a vagina. 

    or, it could be that she is a polarizing figure, got a ton of media attention because of who she beat, and how, and her background. waitress to congress.  

    no, it can't be any of that. 
    Who did she beat? Primary and general, without looking it up.
     
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread with 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    well, gee, it MUST be cuz she has a vagina. 

    or, it could be that she is a polarizing figure, got a ton of media attention because of who she beat, and how, and her background. waitress to congress.  

    no, it can't be any of that. 
    Who did she beat? Primary and general, without looking it up.
     
    oh god, so i don't agree with you, now you have to have a pissing match about who knows more. obviously, you do. i have said as much in the past. i don't recall his name, and i don't give a shit. i can still have an opinion without spending 23 hours a day finding links to political stories and being obsessed with trump. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread with 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    well, gee, it MUST be cuz she has a vagina. 

    or, it could be that she is a polarizing figure, got a ton of media attention because of who she beat, and how, and her background. waitress to congress.  

    no, it can't be any of that. 
    Who did she beat? Primary and general, without looking it up.
     
    Who gives a shit? It was one of 435 elections. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    her polarization has more to do with her brashness than her gender. just my opinion. 
    I believe that her so-called brashness wouldn't be mentioned the way it is if she were a he though. We all know that a woman's behaviour is much more harshly judge than when it's coming from a man. I know you know the deal: He's assertive, she's a bitch. He's passionate, she's unhinged. And so on.
    But aside from that... I just don't think she's brash, lol. I'm not really sure why she is being labelled like that. She's blunt, which is good. She's excitable/passionate/energetic, which is good. She's angry about things worth being angry about, which is good. She's confrontational with those who need to be confronted, which is good...
    That’s a  good question. I feel like the republicans would not care about her brashness if she was a man and a republican.

    i mean how did people view Chris Christie etc on the opposite side of the political system?

    But I also think it’s weak sauce to claim that anyone that disagrees with a female politician is just doing so cause it’s a she. I find Bernie more annoying that AOC, But I still find her annoying too! Lots of annoying politicians though.
    But who here is bitching about Bernie? Nobody that I can tell. Just level headed pro or con. AOC though? Bitching meter is cranked, yo!

    Shes 1 of 435 and most likely doesn’t represent any of us posting. Why the kerfluffle, then?

    what other politicians do you find annoying? Of the lots?
    Definitely Lindsay graham.
    Agreed. Is there a Lindsey Graham thread with 49 pages? Why is that?
     
    well, gee, it MUST be cuz she has a vagina. 

    or, it could be that she is a polarizing figure, got a ton of media attention because of who she beat, and how, and her background. waitress to congress.  

    no, it can't be any of that. 
    Who did she beat? Primary and general, without looking it up.
     
    Who gives a shit? It was one of 435 elections. 
    My point exactly and yet some on here can’t let her go while the long term senator and former Air Force lawyer encourages criminals to ignore subpoenas. Who’s more of a threat or a legitimate concern? AOC with her idealism, sass and wardrobe or that fine senator from South Carolina?
     
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    So snitty around here. And for the record, I don’t know who she beat in the primary and general. I’d have to look it up. Funny obsessions in these parts. Maybe it’s her looks?
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    RYME said:
    I love her. I learn about life & new things from her every week.  Things I've never seen before.
    She enlightens me.
    https://youtu.be/gErodlkQR_k
    Saw this last week. If she doesn’t know what a garbage disposal is or how it’s used she is either a liar or a moron. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    Not too shabby for the youngest woman ever elected to Congress.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/alexandria_ocasio_cortez/412804
     
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  • mrussel1
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    No one wants to talk about Graham.  Who's going to defend him? There's no fun in that.  This place would suck if we all agreed.