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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,242
    CM189191 said:
    You know the GOP looks at this and says "that's why we keep losing Minnesota; we gotta get that number down!"
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,984
    edited November 28
    OnWis97 said:
    CM189191 said:
    You know the GOP looks at this and says "that's why we keep losing Minnesota; we gotta get that number down!"

    yup

    Doug Wardlow once told a Republicans-only audience his goal in attaining that office:

    "If we win the attorney general’s office, which I can do, we can change the political complexion of the state long-term because the attorney general should be going after election fraud. We should be looking into illegal voting. It should be working with county attorneys to prosecute illegal voting.”


    Wardlow was the unsuccessful Republican candidate in the 2018 Minnesota Attorney General election


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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 44,252
    Please pass the Kleenex.
    Circle jerking again 
    Dab your eyes.
    You are a joke anymore 
    this must have gotten lost in translation somewhere. 
    Yeah, was that just a typo-type mistake, or another "could care less" or "on accident" debacle?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,637

    Evidence of fraud mounts in uncertified North Carolina race won by Republican

    A narrow victory by Republican Mark Harris may be thrown out amid evidence of fraudulent absentee voting


    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/30/evidence-of-fraud-mounts-in-uncertified-north-carolina-race-won-by-republican/
  • njnancynjnancy Northern New JerseyPosts: 3,546
    PJ_Soul said:
    Please pass the Kleenex.
    Circle jerking again 
    Dab your eyes.
    You are a joke anymore 
    this must have gotten lost in translation somewhere. 
    Yeah, was that just a typo-type mistake, or another "could care less" or "on accident" debacle?
    I have tried to figure out what the intent was but I've got nothing. 
  • njnancynjnancy Northern New JerseyPosts: 3,546
    dignin said:

    Evidence of fraud mounts in uncertified North Carolina race won by Republican

    A narrow victory by Republican Mark Harris may be thrown out amid evidence of fraudulent absentee voting


    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/30/evidence-of-fraud-mounts-in-uncertified-north-carolina-race-won-by-republican/
    Good for North Carolina. Someone going after possible REAL voter fraud. 
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,035
    That's definitely some shady shit
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,984
    njnancy said:
    dignin said:

    Evidence of fraud mounts in uncertified North Carolina race won by Republican

    A narrow victory by Republican Mark Harris may be thrown out amid evidence of fraudulent absentee voting


    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/30/evidence-of-fraud-mounts-in-uncertified-north-carolina-race-won-by-republican/
    Good for North Carolina. Someone going after possible REAL voter fraud. 
    This is not voter fraud. It's election fraud. Much more serious. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,637
    CM189191 said:
    njnancy said:
    dignin said:

    Evidence of fraud mounts in uncertified North Carolina race won by Republican

    A narrow victory by Republican Mark Harris may be thrown out amid evidence of fraudulent absentee voting


    https://www.salon.com/2018/11/30/evidence-of-fraud-mounts-in-uncertified-north-carolina-race-won-by-republican/
    Good for North Carolina. Someone going after possible REAL voter fraud. 
    This is not voter fraud. It's election fraud. Much more serious. 
    Yup. Not people, the republican party.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,332
    edited December 7
    Suburban areas in swing states swung the election to him in '16:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-really-popular-in-rural-areas-other-places-not-so-much/

    Trump Is Really Popular In Rural Areas. Other Places, Not So Much.

    1206_POLLA_4x3

    PHOTO ILLUSTRATION BY FIVETHIRTYEIGHT / GETTY IMAGES

    Welcome to Pollapalooza, our weekly polling roundup.

    Poll(s) of the week

    The 2018 midterm election confirmed America’s urban-rural divide; Democrats excelled in cities, Republicans dominated in the country and the suburbs were the tiebreaker that handed Democrats the House. Will the 2020 election play out the same way? This week, we got two polls of President Trump’s approval rating that suggest it might.

    First, a Selzer & Co. (one of our favorite pollstersnational poll conducted Nov. 24-27 for Grinnell College found that Trump had a 43 percent approval rating and a 45 percent disapproval rating among all adults. However, his support isn’t distributed equally across different types of communities. He’s enormously popular among residents of rural areas, with a 61 percent approval rating and a 26 percent disapproval rating. In small towns, that breakdown is 44 percent approve vs. 42 percent disapprove. But in suburban areas, only 41 percent of residents approve of the job that Trump is doing as president, while 50 percent disapprove. Trump’s approval rating is lowest among urbanites — 31 percent approve of him while 59 percent disapprove.

    We saw similar geographic trends in an Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll that was conducted from Nov. 26 to Dec. 2. Trump again got the highest marks from residents of rural areas — a 62 percent approval rating and a 35 percent disapproval rating. And yet again, his standing took a nosedive among suburbanites and urbanites. In suburban areas, Trump’s approval rating was 32 percent, and his disapproval rating was 60 percent. In urban areas, his approval rating was 27 percent, and his disapproval rating was 67 percent. (The IBD/TIPP poll didn’t include “small town” as an option for respondents.) Overall, Trump’s approval/disapproval spread was much lower in the IBD/TIPP poll (39 percent approve, 55 percent disapprove) than it was in the Selzer poll, which explains why the IBD/TIPP poll is worse for Trump in all three geographic categories as well.

    Here are the results of the polls side by side:

    Trump is more popular in rural areas

    Presidential net approval rating among adults by density type

    CATEGORYSELZER POLLIBD/TIPP POLL
    Urban-28-40
    Suburban-9-28
    Small town*+2
    Rural+35+27
    Overall-2-16

    * The Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll did not include a breakdown for “small town.”

    SOURCES: SELZER & CO., GRINNELL COLLEGE, INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY

     

    This is perhaps stating the obvious, but Trump would do well to approve his standing among suburban and urban voters before 2020. Less than 20 percent of the U.S. population lives in rural areas. Granted, not all rural voters will cast their ballot for the president, nor will all urban and suburban voters back whoever is the Democratic nominee. But elections are winner-take-all contests waged within discrete geographic areas — states or districts. According to the Congressional Density Index from CityLab, a news website covering urban issues, just 70 congressional districts are “pure rural,” and an additional 114 are a “rural-suburban mix.” CityLab is still in the process of making similar assessments for states, but David Montgomery, a journalist for CityLab, told FiveThirtyEight that 11 states could be classified as mostly rural, while an additional 17 could be classified as a mix of rural areas and suburbs. The former are worth a combined 53 electoral votes, while the latter are worth a combined 138; 270 are needed to win a presidential election.

    None of this means that Trump lacks a path to electoral victory. It’s still early in the 2020 campaign; approval ratings may change, and a person’s feelings about the president aren’t the only determinant of his or her vote. But those numbers aren’t great for Republicans even if institutions like the Electoral College give disproportionate influence to rural areas. Without urban and suburban areas, they’ll find it difficult to cobble together a sustainable majority.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,454
    Suburban areas in swing states swung the election to him in '16:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-really-popular-in-rural-areas-other-places-not-so-much/

    Trump Is Really Popular In Rural Areas. Other Places, Not So Much.

    1206_POLLA_4x3

    PHOTO ILLUSTRATION BY FIVETHIRTYEIGHT / GETTY IMAGES

    Welcome to Pollapalooza, our weekly polling roundup.

    Poll(s) of the week

    The 2018 midterm election confirmed America’s urban-rural divide; Democrats excelled in cities, Republicans dominated in the country and the suburbs were the tiebreaker that handed Democrats the House. Will the 2020 election play out the same way? This week, we got two polls of President Trump’s approval rating that suggest it might.

    First, a Selzer & Co. (one of our favorite pollstersnational poll conducted Nov. 24-27 for Grinnell College found that Trump had a 43 percent approval rating and a 45 percent disapproval rating among all adults. However, his support isn’t distributed equally across different types of communities. He’s enormously popular among residents of rural areas, with a 61 percent approval rating and a 26 percent disapproval rating. In small towns, that breakdown is 44 percent approve vs. 42 percent disapprove. But in suburban areas, only 41 percent of residents approve of the job that Trump is doing as president, while 50 percent disapprove. Trump’s approval rating is lowest among urbanites — 31 percent approve of him while 59 percent disapprove.

    We saw similar geographic trends in an Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll that was conducted from Nov. 26 to Dec. 2. Trump again got the highest marks from residents of rural areas — a 62 percent approval rating and a 35 percent disapproval rating. And yet again, his standing took a nosedive among suburbanites and urbanites. In suburban areas, Trump’s approval rating was 32 percent, and his disapproval rating was 60 percent. In urban areas, his approval rating was 27 percent, and his disapproval rating was 67 percent. (The IBD/TIPP poll didn’t include “small town” as an option for respondents.) Overall, Trump’s approval/disapproval spread was much lower in the IBD/TIPP poll (39 percent approve, 55 percent disapprove) than it was in the Selzer poll, which explains why the IBD/TIPP poll is worse for Trump in all three geographic categories as well.

    Here are the results of the polls side by side:

    Trump is more popular in rural areas

    Presidential net approval rating among adults by density type

    CATEGORYSELZER POLLIBD/TIPP POLL
    Urban-28-40
    Suburban-9-28
    Small town*+2
    Rural+35+27
    Overall-2-16

    * The Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP poll did not include a breakdown for “small town.”

    SOURCES: SELZER & CO., GRINNELL COLLEGE, INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY

     

    This is perhaps stating the obvious, but Trump would do well to approve his standing among suburban and urban voters before 2020. Less than 20 percent of the U.S. population lives in rural areas. Granted, not all rural voters will cast their ballot for the president, nor will all urban and suburban voters back whoever is the Democratic nominee. But elections are winner-take-all contests waged within discrete geographic areas — states or districts. According to the Congressional Density Index from CityLab, a news website covering urban issues, just 70 congressional districts are “pure rural,” and an additional 114 are a “rural-suburban mix.” CityLab is still in the process of making similar assessments for states, but David Montgomery, a journalist for CityLab, told FiveThirtyEight that 11 states could be classified as mostly rural, while an additional 17 could be classified as a mix of rural areas and suburbs. The former are worth a combined 53 electoral votes, while the latter are worth a combined 138; 270 are needed to win a presidential election.

    None of this means that Trump lacks a path to electoral victory. It’s still early in the 2020 campaign; approval ratings may change, and a person’s feelings about the president aren’t the only determinant of his or her vote. But those numbers aren’t great for Republicans even if institutions like the Electoral College give disproportionate influence to rural areas. Without urban and suburban areas, they’ll find it difficult to cobble together a sustainable majority.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,332
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,842
    They should they’ve never ever offered anything that would help blacks & minority’s do yeah add the Hispanic voters too ! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,332
    edited December 11
    ^
    Long term prospects for a party that is primarily focused on winning votes from uneducated white males is not the best. They will rue the day Trump descended from those escalators. No long term vision in the republican party. Only caring about short term gains.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,649
    edited December 11
    ^
    Long term prospects for a party that is primarily focused on winning votes from uneducated white males is not the best. They will rue the day Trump descended from those escalators. No long term vision in the republican party. Only caring about short term gains.
    Unfortunately it's not just short term gains.
    During Barack Obama's presidency the Republicans refused to fill empty judicial positions. 
    The current government has been quietly loading the federal bench with hundreds of conservative judges. 
    These judges will be in place for decades. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,332
    ^
    Long term prospects for a party that is primarily focused on winning votes from uneducated white males is not the best. They will rue the day Trump descended from those escalators. No long term vision in the republican party. Only caring about short term gains.
    Unfortunately it's not just short term gains.
    During Barack Obama's presidency the Republicans refused to cut to fill empty judicial positions. 
    The current government has been quietly loading the federal bench with hundreds of conservative judges. 
    These judges will be in place for decades. 
    Yeah, that's true.
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