Did you vote, yet?

mrussel1

Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:

Dana Roharbacher... Done.  The man who is paid by Putin shall not be paid any longer.

But now he'll get either a cabinet  position or a 2 hour daily slot on rupert murdochs state run tv

Don't forget RTV and Sputnik.  There are offers on the table for an apologist.  

njnancy

mrussel1 said:

njnancy said:

The late, great.....

Yes, Tim was the best.  
Unfortunately, FL and OH are red but VA and CO are blue.  All used to be swing states but perhaps no more.   I know FL isn't decided yet and Nelson may pull the rabbit, but it should not need to be pulled.  

Governor's race has dropped below half a point, auto recount. Scott is claiming rigged election. Those liberals in Broward County are 'finding' votes. They love a representative democracy, until they don't control the representation.

Halifax2TheMax

Roharbacher might find himself being indicted, talking about other indictments to drop. Haven’t heard much from Reince “Ain’t a Prince” Preibus these days. I wonder why?

tbergs

njnancy said:

mrussel1 said:

njnancy said:

The late, great.....

Yes, Tim was the best.  
Unfortunately, FL and OH are red but VA and CO are blue.  All used to be swing states but perhaps no more.   I know FL isn't decided yet and Nelson may pull the rabbit, but it should not need to be pulled.  

Governor's race has dropped below half a point, auto recount. Scott is claiming rigged election. Those liberals in Broward County are 'finding' votes. They love a representative democracy, until they don't. 

I mean really, what the hell is wrong with Florida? It's been 20 years and they still can't run an election or provide adequate polling to their districts. Florida really is a disaster between this and all the bigger mass shooters that occur there.

mrussel1

tbergs said:

njnancy said:

mrussel1 said:

njnancy said:

The late, great.....

Yes, Tim was the best.  
Unfortunately, FL and OH are red but VA and CO are blue.  All used to be swing states but perhaps no more.   I know FL isn't decided yet and Nelson may pull the rabbit, but it should not need to be pulled.  

Governor's race has dropped below half a point, auto recount. Scott is claiming rigged election. Those liberals in Broward County are 'finding' votes. They love a representative democracy, until they don't. 

I mean really, what the hell is wrong with Florida? It's been 20 years and they still can't run an election or provide adequate polling to their districts. Florida really is a disaster between this and all the bigger mass shooters that occur there.

The state is just a cluster of fucked upness.  I actually voted in FL in 2000 with the infamous "butterfly" ballot.  It was absolutely confusing.  They just can't seem to do anything right.  The population is just a hodgepodge of completely different people.  There is no continuity from region, to county or even city.  

dignin

Three days later: Hey, Republicans really did get clobbered

It turns out the 2018 midterm elections were pretty much a rout. Counting all the votes makes all the difference in the world.

In the House, as of this writing, the Democratic gains are up to 30 with about five more races still to be called — in which Democrats are leading. A gain of 35 seats would be the largest House pickup for Democrats since the first post-Watergate midterm election in 1974.

The Democrats picked up seven governorships, with Stacey Abrams, as of now, still fighting to make it to a runoff in Georgia, and Andrew Gillum trailing by 0.4 percentage points, enough to trigger a recount in Florida.

In the Senate, Democrats may not quite have pulled off an inside straight, but they had two aces — in Nevada and Arizona. With 26 seats to defend, many in red states, it now looks as if their losses will be small. Democrats won in Nevada and are now poised to pick up a seat in Arizona. In the latter, Rep. Krysten Sinema surged into the lead as additional Maricopa County ballots were counted.)

Meanwhile, Democrats have an outside chance to hold on to Florida. There, Republican Gov. Rick Scott leads by only 0.2 percentage points over Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. If Sinema and Nelson win, Republicans, in a year with the most favorable map in recent history, would pick up only a net of one seat (52 to 48); if Sinema wins but Nelson doesn’t, Republicans would only eke out a net gain of two seats (53 to 47). That’s simply remarkable considering they had to defend incumbents in the following in states President Trump won, in some cases by double digits: Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Montana, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. As conservative Quin Hillyer put it, one would reasonably expect “Republicans on this map, in this economy . . .  [to gain] at least five seats, with six or seven more likely than three or four.”

Simply because Trump did not see all these losses on Election Night does not make them any less real or consequential for Republicans. Put differently, outside the deepest-red enclaves Republicans took a beating up and down the ballot.

Remember, states also passed ballot initiatives to raise the minimum wage, to expand voting access and to legalize marijuana; you have to wonder whether Trump and his ilk realize they are in retreat politically and policy-wise.

If you then turn to exit polls, voters said by big margins: they disapprove of Trump (54 percent to 45 percent ); regard the GOP unfavorably (52 percent to 44 percent); think the country is on the wrong track (54 percent to 42 percent), thought Trump’s immigration policies were too harsh (46 percent, with 33 percent saying they were about right and 17 saying not tough enough); favor tougher gun laws (59 percent to 37 percent); think his foreign policy makes the country less safe (46 percent to 38 percent); disapprove of Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh (47 percent to 44 percent); want to uphold Roe v. Wade (66 percent to 25 percent); think it is somewhat or very important to elect more minorities (72 percent to 24 percent) and somewhat or very important to elect more women (78 percent to 20 percent); think sexual harassment is a big problem (84 percent to 14 percent); and are more concerned about people being denied the right to vote than voter fraud (53 percent to 36 percent).

It drives Trump’s critics to distraction to watch him dominate every news cycle and repeat lies that have long since been debunked. They should be upset ; the president’s lies, racism, meanness and ignorance debase the presidency. However, Trump’s not helping himself or his party. To the contrary, Democrats just had an extremely successful election and are winning most major policy debates. They should send him a nice fruit basket or something for the holidays.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/09/three-days-later-hey-republicans-really-did-get-clobbered/?utm_term=.d3c5041d3161

Blue ripple...

oftenreading

dignin said:

Three days later: Hey, Republicans really did get clobbered

It turns out the 2018 midterm elections were pretty much a rout. Counting all the votes makes all the difference in the world.

In the House, as of this writing, the Democratic gains are up to 30 with about five more races still to be called — in which Democrats are leading. A gain of 35 seats would be the largest House pickup for Democrats since the first post-Watergate midterm election in 1974.

The Democrats picked up seven governorships, with Stacey Abrams, as of now, still fighting to make it to a runoff in Georgia, and Andrew Gillum trailing by 0.4 percentage points, enough to trigger a recount in Florida.

In the Senate, Democrats may not quite have pulled off an inside straight, but they had two aces — in Nevada and Arizona. With 26 seats to defend, many in red states, it now looks as if their losses will be small. Democrats won in Nevada and are now poised to pick up a seat in Arizona. In the latter, Rep. Krysten Sinema surged into the lead as additional Maricopa County ballots were counted.)

Meanwhile, Democrats have an outside chance to hold on to Florida. There, Republican Gov. Rick Scott leads by only 0.2 percentage points over Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. If Sinema and Nelson win, Republicans, in a year with the most favorable map in recent history, would pick up only a net of one seat (52 to 48); if Sinema wins but Nelson doesn’t, Republicans would only eke out a net gain of two seats (53 to 47). That’s simply remarkable considering they had to defend incumbents in the following in states President Trump won, in some cases by double digits: Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Montana, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. As conservative Quin Hillyer put it, one would reasonably expect “Republicans on this map, in this economy . . .  [to gain] at least five seats, with six or seven more likely than three or four.”

Simply because Trump did not see all these losses on Election Night does not make them any less real or consequential for Republicans. Put differently, outside the deepest-red enclaves Republicans took a beating up and down the ballot.

Remember, states also passed ballot initiatives to raise the minimum wage, to expand voting access and to legalize marijuana; you have to wonder whether Trump and his ilk realize they are in retreat politically and policy-wise.

If you then turn to exit polls, voters said by big margins: they disapprove of Trump (54 percent to 45 percent ); regard the GOP unfavorably (52 percent to 44 percent); think the country is on the wrong track (54 percent to 42 percent), thought Trump’s immigration policies were too harsh (46 percent, with 33 percent saying they were about right and 17 saying not tough enough); favor tougher gun laws (59 percent to 37 percent); think his foreign policy makes the country less safe (46 percent to 38 percent); disapprove of Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh (47 percent to 44 percent); want to uphold Roe v. Wade (66 percent to 25 percent); think it is somewhat or very important to elect more minorities (72 percent to 24 percent) and somewhat or very important to elect more women (78 percent to 20 percent); think sexual harassment is a big problem (84 percent to 14 percent); and are more concerned about people being denied the right to vote than voter fraud (53 percent to 36 percent).

It drives Trump’s critics to distraction to watch him dominate every news cycle and repeat lies that have long since been debunked. They should be upset ; the president’s lies, racism, meanness and ignorance debase the presidency. However, Trump’s not helping himself or his party. To the contrary, Democrats just had an extremely successful election and are winning most major policy debates. They should send him a nice fruit basket or something for the holidays.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/09/three-days-later-hey-republicans-really-did-get-clobbered/?utm_term=.d3c5041d3161

Blue ripple...

Wasn’t someone saying just a couple of days ago that no one actually cares about racism, sexism, and LGBTQ rights? 

josevolution

dignin said:

Three days later: Hey, Republicans really did get clobbered

It turns out the 2018 midterm elections were pretty much a rout. Counting all the votes makes all the difference in the world.

In the House, as of this writing, the Democratic gains are up to 30 with about five more races still to be called — in which Democrats are leading. A gain of 35 seats would be the largest House pickup for Democrats since the first post-Watergate midterm election in 1974.

The Democrats picked up seven governorships, with Stacey Abrams, as of now, still fighting to make it to a runoff in Georgia, and Andrew Gillum trailing by 0.4 percentage points, enough to trigger a recount in Florida.

In the Senate, Democrats may not quite have pulled off an inside straight, but they had two aces — in Nevada and Arizona. With 26 seats to defend, many in red states, it now looks as if their losses will be small. Democrats won in Nevada and are now poised to pick up a seat in Arizona. In the latter, Rep. Krysten Sinema surged into the lead as additional Maricopa County ballots were counted.)

Meanwhile, Democrats have an outside chance to hold on to Florida. There, Republican Gov. Rick Scott leads by only 0.2 percentage points over Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. If Sinema and Nelson win, Republicans, in a year with the most favorable map in recent history, would pick up only a net of one seat (52 to 48); if Sinema wins but Nelson doesn’t, Republicans would only eke out a net gain of two seats (53 to 47). That’s simply remarkable considering they had to defend incumbents in the following in states President Trump won, in some cases by double digits: Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Montana, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. As conservative Quin Hillyer put it, one would reasonably expect “Republicans on this map, in this economy . . .  [to gain] at least five seats, with six or seven more likely than three or four.”

Simply because Trump did not see all these losses on Election Night does not make them any less real or consequential for Republicans. Put differently, outside the deepest-red enclaves Republicans took a beating up and down the ballot.

Remember, states also passed ballot initiatives to raise the minimum wage, to expand voting access and to legalize marijuana; you have to wonder whether Trump and his ilk realize they are in retreat politically and policy-wise.

If you then turn to exit polls, voters said by big margins: they disapprove of Trump (54 percent to 45 percent ); regard the GOP unfavorably (52 percent to 44 percent); think the country is on the wrong track (54 percent to 42 percent), thought Trump’s immigration policies were too harsh (46 percent, with 33 percent saying they were about right and 17 saying not tough enough); favor tougher gun laws (59 percent to 37 percent); think his foreign policy makes the country less safe (46 percent to 38 percent); disapprove of Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh (47 percent to 44 percent); want to uphold Roe v. Wade (66 percent to 25 percent); think it is somewhat or very important to elect more minorities (72 percent to 24 percent) and somewhat or very important to elect more women (78 percent to 20 percent); think sexual harassment is a big problem (84 percent to 14 percent); and are more concerned about people being denied the right to vote than voter fraud (53 percent to 36 percent).

It drives Trump’s critics to distraction to watch him dominate every news cycle and repeat lies that have long since been debunked. They should be upset ; the president’s lies, racism, meanness and ignorance debase the presidency. However, Trump’s not helping himself or his party. To the contrary, Democrats just had an extremely successful election and are winning most major policy debates. They should send him a nice fruit basket or something for the holidays.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/09/three-days-later-hey-republicans-really-did-get-clobbered/?utm_term=.d3c5041d3161

Blue ripple...

Maybe Unsung only swimms in really big big oceans since he still thinks this was a ripple lol ...

OnWis97

I think the whole "blue wave" discussion go so ramped up that the expectations became very big...and then early in the evening, the Dems lost a couple of House elections and suddenly it looked like taking the House was not a done deal.  After that it felt like the Dems sort of limped across the finish line.  In reality it was a win for the Dems, but I don't think it was a huge win.  To whatever degree this was a referendum on Trump, it was a tight one.  It was not a loud repudiation of Trump and all he stands for.  And fewer seats turned to the opposite party than for any of the last several presidents after their year-twos. 

I guess I didn't realize some people thought the Senate going blue was in play.  It was just set up so terribly with the Dems playing defense, that it wasn't going to happen.  And while I think some were hoping for a few more House flips, anyone who thought the Dems were going to have a 100-seat advantage was just kidding themselves.

Trump is what he is.  The GOP is what Trump is.  And while getting the House majority was the key, for the future, Trumpism is our guide, until something changes. 

josevolution

OnWis97 said:

I think the whole "blue wave" discussion go so ramped up that the expectations became very big...and then early in the evening, the Dems lost a couple of House elections and suddenly it looked like taking the House was not a done deal.  After that it felt like the Dems sort of limped across the finish line.  In reality it was a win for the Dems, but I don't think it was a huge win.  To whatever degree this was a referendum on Trump, it was a tight one.  It was not a loud repudiation of Trump and all he stands for.  And fewer seats turned to the opposite party than for any of the last several presidents after their year-twos. 

I guess I didn't realize some people thought the Senate going blue was in play.  It was just set up so terribly with the Dems playing defense, that it wasn't going to happen.  And while I think some were hoping for a few more House flips, anyone who thought the Dems were going to have a 100-seat advantage was just kidding themselves.

Trump is what he is.  The GOP is what Trump is.  And while getting the House majority was the key, for the future, Trumpism is our guide, until something changes. 

What you didn't read the Article above lol it certainly was a big wave heck they might come close to flipping 40 seats ....

mrussel1

I heard this morning that the state seats are moving towards 400 flipped.  On Wed it was like 330, so it wouldn't surprise me that many more have been added since then.  

Kat

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. And that's just the House. There are also Governorships, those State Seats and more.

cincybearcat

Kat said:

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me.

It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.

josevolution

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me.

It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.

I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....

cincybearcat

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me.

It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.

I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....

Except of course executive orders

But yes I understand. 

mrussel1

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me.

It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.

I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....

Except of course executive orders

But yes I understand. 

Subpoena power is quite important. 

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me.

It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.

I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....

Except of course executive orders

But yes I understand. 

Subpoena power is quite important. 

Yup. Impeachment powers are greater!

josevolution

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me.

It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.

I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....

Except of course executive orders

But yes I understand. 

yes EO he will be filling those out by the hundreds by the time it's all over ..

josevolution

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me.

It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.

I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....

Except of course executive orders

But yes I understand. 

Subpoena power is quite important. 

Ah yes this is what's really scaring the PRP ....

OnWis97

It was a smallish wave compared to previous presidents in year two.

Regarding the Senators, losing the seats bothers me some but the Dems were playing defense.  What really bothers me is that voting against Kavanaugh was a huge death blow for a few democratic senators.  Trump would be crazy not to appoint Roy Moore next time.  Dem Senators would be screwed.