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With all the anti-immigrant, racist comments out there, I wouldn't be surprised if a few Congressmen said something anti-Semitic. Yes the salamander comment was purse horse shit.MayDay10 said:
That discredits the entire thing though as slanted crap for the landfill of shit that is out there. I see stuff on social media all the time and a "salamander" can normally figure out what is nonsense in about .002 seconds, and keep scrolling.HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.
I have a group of friends in a private group on facebook, and like 75% of the content is posting this stuff and making fun of the comments that take it seriously. (from both sides, but most of it is from 1 side tbh).I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
LOL. I saw that and thought "why he is now calling her All-EYE? LOLPJ_Soul said:
Are you misspelling my name on purpose?mcgruff10 said:
So am I, it gets tiring and it divides our country more and more. However candidates, especially rookies, tend to say some stupid things so that is where the interest about the meme originated. I have a four day weekend, time to find a bottle of BC Gris. Enjoy your night Ally!PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
I am not a meme creator Allie, I asked about one. We often talk about racism and xenophobia on these forums; what is the difference if their is a meme about a candidate who could possibly be both and it is posted and discussed? Again, I knew nothing about the candidates since they were from the midwest, I was wondering the origins about them. Maybe they had some merit, maybe the two candidates said something in a speech that was taken out of context or spun. I honestly had no clue.PJ_Soul said:
Are racist, xenophobic memes par for the course on these forums? I sincerely haven't noticed that. Only when unsung posts them. Anyway, like I said, I'm not dumping on you about it - just kind of suggesting that you not post any more racists memes that you think might be accurate, lol, because they never will be.mcgruff10 said:
Like I said, I was wondering what the origins of the meme was. It was all over my facebook feed and I had no clue where the candidates came from except for Menendez. Sinister Allie? Come on, this is pretty par for the course on these forums lol. Seems like as usual the meme was complete bs and was answered by onwis97.PJ_Soul said:I have no urge to rag on you McGruff (and don't like it when people try and rub your career in your face - it's not fair, and nobody should be expected to display what they do for a living here on a message board anyhow). I will say, though, that you might want to stop and think before posting what I saw as a blatantly and obviously islamophic meme in particular. Posting stupid memes and asking questions is one thing, but the second I saw a Muslim woman who was just elected to office being called an "anti-semetic America-hater" I knew immediately that it's a much more sinister meme than we should ever be seeing on this forum.
I guess I am just sensitive to the kind of hate propaganda being spread around in general, so don't like seeing it here.FYI, there is no "e" at the end of my name!
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I was lost at "lower IQ than a salamander." To even have to ask.PJ_Soul said:I have no urge to rag on you McGruff (and don't like it when people try and rub your career in your face - it's not fair, and nobody should be expected to display what they do for a living here on a message board anyhow). I will say, though, that you might want to stop and think before posting what I saw as a blatantly and obviously islamophic meme in particular. Posting stupid memes and asking questions about them is one thing, but the second I saw a Muslim woman who was just elected to office being called an "anti-semetic America-hater" I knew immediately that it's a much more sinister meme than we should ever be seeing on this forum.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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And some posters doubt the efficiency and effectiveness of putin on the ritz's expediture of a million dollars a day. Not to switch a vote cast but to influence to prevent a vote from being a cast or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.
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No she did not.my2hands said:
To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.
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She was an extremely qualified candidate that got millions more votes than Trump did but, just as with Pelosi, portions of this country detest powerful women.PJ_Soul said:
No she did not.my2hands said:
To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.0 -
Okey dokey
I'm a dead blue staunch progressive democratic voter that is dying to support female candidates. I had HRC on the ballot three times when i was in a voting booth, and only voted for her once, when the opponent was Trump. She was about as authentic as cheez-wiz, most progressives and Democrats will tell you the same if they are being honest
I also think there was not much appetite for another family dynasty in 2016, which hurt her as well.
Bottom line, Hillary lost to Donald Trump. That means she sucked, period. Sorry
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Qualified, I said she was extremely qualified. Authenticity is something that is difficult to translate. A qualified candidate may not be the best campaigner. Does not take away her resume'. But you have to find fault in everything. You claim that you are not, but you predictably have a put down for every post.my2hands said:Okey dokey
I'm a dead blue staunch progressive democratic voter that is dying to support female candidates. I had HRC on the ballot three times when i was in a voting booth, and only voted for her once, when the opponent was Trump. She was about as authentic as cheez-wiz, most progressives and Democrats will tell you the same if they are being honest
I know that Hillary was qualified and I know that there are people in this country that would never vote for a woman for president and detest powerful women.
Can you stick to what is said and not turn it into what you want it to be?0 -
I call bullshit. I say she would have gotten less votes if she was a man. The only thing that caused enthusiasm surrounding her campsign was the fact she was a woman, and wasnt THAT guy lolnjnancy said:
She was an extremely qualified candidate that got millions more votes than Trump did but, just as with Pelosi, portions of this country detest powerful women.PJ_Soul said:
No she did not.my2hands said:
To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.
She didnt lose because of sexism.
See what i mean. Its always racism, sexism, whateverism. Its bullshit in my opinion. Own the loss
Was it sexism that kept her from going to the purple midwest and rust belt?0 -
I am tired of this. Play with someone else. And please....say that I didn't answer because I know you are right or some other self serving comment. It is getting tiresome.my2hands said:
I call bullshit. I say she would have gotten less votes if she was a man. The only thing that caused enthusiasm surrounding her campsign was the fact she was a woman, and wasnt THAT guy lolnjnancy said:
She was an extremely qualified candidate that got millions more votes than Trump did but, just as with Pelosi, portions of this country detest powerful women.PJ_Soul said:
No she did not.my2hands said:
To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.
She didnt lose because of sexism.
See what i mean. Its always racism, sexism, whateverism. Its bullshit in my opinion. Own the loss
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I mean, you kinda rolled out the red carpet.mcgruff10 said:
It is after two o'clock, I am not a teacher and this is not my classroom. However in my eyes by questioning the background of a meme it exemplifies intellectual curiosity. Students come up to me a lot and ask me about the legitimacy of a political meme; we often analyze each one and try to research the origins of the message. I actually used meme's when teaching about the Spanish American War since that is pretty much the origin of "fake news." The majority are complete bull shit; I should have known better than post here since many people can not simply answer a question but I was intrigued by the one I posted. Again, I don't claim to know every one of the 435 House races that occurred yesterday but I did want to know if their was any truth to the two candidates who were accused of being anti-Semitic.josevolution said:
I'm not rying to be educated we have you for that here since you are the teacher , your the one who posts a meme and can't figure out if it's true or not lol tell me do you just put something if front of your students without making sure it's legit 1st ?mcgruff10 said:
Thank you for that educated comment Jose. Like I said, just wondering if the anti-Semitic comments were true.josevolution said:
so is the POTUS you seem to align with on many issues , no matter how anyone spins it the POTUS is the biggest peice of shit in the country !mcgruff10 said:
That's all I needed to know. Thanks for explaining the two on the right in an educated manner without attempting to throw insults. I do appreciate it. (menendez is a pos by the way)OnWis97 said:
(psst...most probably don't know what "DFL" means)tbergs said:
C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.mcgruff10 said:Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez.
As for the poster:- Starting off with the hyperbolic "IQ lower than a salamander" sort of sucks the legitimacy out of that one. Age-motivated at best. Ethnicity motivated at worst.
- I don't know much about Menendez.
- The other two are Muslims from Minnesota and as far as I can tell they are being accused of being anti-semetic and/or America-hating because they are Muslims. Nothing but a xenophobic smear. That said, Keith Ellison (right) was just elected secretary of state and was accused of abusing a former girlfriend.
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so simplistic. she lost because she's cheez whiz.my2hands said:
I call bullshit. I say she would have gotten less votes if she was a man. The only thing that caused enthusiasm surrounding her campsign was the fact she was a woman, and wasnt THAT guy lolnjnancy said:
She was an extremely qualified candidate that got millions more votes than Trump did but, just as with Pelosi, portions of this country detest powerful women.PJ_Soul said:
No she did not.my2hands said:
To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.
She didnt lose because of sexism.
See what i mean. Its always racism, sexism, whateverism. Its bullshit in my opinion. Own the loss
Was it sexism that kept her from going to the purple midwest and rust belt?
at least she makes celery good.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Sorry, but common sense should prevail. If a meme opens by referencing a female candidate having an IQ less than a salamander are you going to ground any truth in it? What that meme did was take particles of information about each person and misconstrued it in an utterly ridiculous fashion so that even my 5 year would have known to ignore it. Why is this not obvious? My fucking god, no wonder we have Trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
There is no way in hell there weren't some people who didn't vote for her because she's a women. Literally NO WAY. It must be nice to be a male and actually naively believe that didn't come into play at all. However, I don't think that is the main reason she lost. I think that was because she was insanely vilified beyond all reason by the Trumpsters, and Americans fell for it hook, line, and sinker. And I think Comey gave her that extra nudge too. I mean, she was close enough to winning that any one of those things could maybe be pointed at as being the tipping factor, but I think it was a combo of those 3 things, and most notably the weakness for Trump's propaganda that America (on both sides of the fence) continues to display that really did it. The other things just lent a helping hand IMO.
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Qualified clearly has nothing to do with winning elections or being a great candidate for POTUS. It's a TV show, and the TV star won. Obama accomplished what before being POTUS? Dems might need to run Oprah lol God Bless 'Mericanjnancy said:
She was an extremely qualified candidate that got millions more votes than Trump did but, just as with Pelosi, portions of this country detest powerful women.PJ_Soul said:
No she did not.my2hands said:
To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.
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Obama was actually qualified, and so was Hillary. You're right, Americans don't seem to give a shit if someone is qualified anymore.
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Since when does being qualified come into the equation. There are thousands of more people to be qualified for president than the jokers that get elected and run. The ones who run have deep, deep pockets...it just about the money.my2hands said:Okey dokey
I'm a dead blue staunch progressive democratic voter that is dying to support female candidates. I had HRC on the ballot three times when i was in a voting booth, and only voted for her once, when the opponent was Trump. She was about as authentic as cheez-wiz, most progressives and Democrats will tell you the same if they are being honest
I also think there was not much appetite for another family dynasty in 2016, which hurt her as well.
Bottom line, Hillary lost to Donald Trump. That means she sucked, period. SorryGive Peas A Chance…0 -
Ok so here is where rumor one of my infamous meme comes from:
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Popular vote doesn’t matter.njnancy said:
She was an extremely qualified candidate that got millions more votes than Trump did but, just as with Pelosi, portions of this country detest powerful women.PJ_Soul said:
No she did not.my2hands said:
To be fair, she did that on her own lolHalifax2TheMax said:
or influence a vote that was cast as "not Hillary."HughFreakingDillon said:
he already stated he was not asking about that one.MayDay10 said:I think the meme opening with suggesting someone's "IQ was less than a salamander" should be grounds to assume that it is folly and ignore it from the getgo. That's just me though.0
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