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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,118
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    You mean like the 8 years of Obama? I’d love for Pelosi to step before the cameras and announce, “our number one priority over the next two years is to see Team Trump Treason fail.”
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    Did anything positive get done the last 2 years?
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    I'm not sure this is true or not.  My perception is that Trump doesn't give a shit about policy, so long as it lets him market.  He has no actual belief system.  The one exception is immigration/minorities.  He will stand fast on this issue, but no others really.  They may actually get some stuff done if he can strong arm a handful of Senators. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    I'm not sure this is true or not.  My perception is that Trump doesn't give a shit about policy, so long as it lets him market.  He has no actual belief system.  The one exception is immigration/minorities.  He will stand fast on this issue, but no others really.  They may actually get some stuff done if he can strong arm a handful of Senators. 
    It's all about his base for him. I doubt they want compromise.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    I'm not sure this is true or not.  My perception is that Trump doesn't give a shit about policy, so long as it lets him market.  He has no actual belief system.  The one exception is immigration/minorities.  He will stand fast on this issue, but no others really.  They may actually get some stuff done if he can strong arm a handful of Senators. 
    It's all about his base for him. I doubt they want compromise.
    That gets into the question of who owns who.  I don't think they have a belief system other than immigration either.  They turned against the FBI, Bush, McCain, basically anyone who Trump stirred them up against.  He could get them bought into medicare for all.  They are that easily manipulated.  
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Did your team win?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    unsung said:
    Did your team win?
    My girl won.. Abigail Spanberger defeated that POS Dave Brat in VA-07.  This is a district that hasn't had a D since the Southern Strategy in 1971.  And he isn't even welcomed back to Randolph Macon as a professor because he trashed higher education while campaigning.  Scum bag.  
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    I'm not sure this is true or not.  My perception is that Trump doesn't give a shit about policy, so long as it lets him market.  He has no actual belief system.  The one exception is immigration/minorities.  He will stand fast on this issue, but no others really.  They may actually get some stuff done if he can strong arm a handful of Senators. 
    It's all about his base for him. I doubt they want compromise.
    That gets into the question of who owns who.  I don't think they have a belief system other than immigration either.  They turned against the FBI, Bush, McCain, basically anyone who Trump stirred them up against.  He could get them bought into medicare for all.  They are that easily manipulated.  
    Fair point. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,118
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    I'm not sure this is true or not.  My perception is that Trump doesn't give a shit about policy, so long as it lets him market.  He has no actual belief system.  The one exception is immigration/minorities.  He will stand fast on this issue, but no others really.  They may actually get some stuff done if he can strong arm a handful of Senators. 
    I hope I am wrong but I don't see a compromise between both houses of congress.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,118
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    You mean like the 8 years of Obama? I’d love for Pelosi to step before the cameras and announce, “our number one priority over the next two years is to see Team Trump Treason fail.”
    six years, no?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Ah, Team Trump Treason, sir? Repubs don’t vote for the opposing party’s speaker.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060162807960870913
    Trump wants Pelosi because he knows her name is poison and helps the GOP in 2020

     Democrats will fuck this up, no doubt
    Probably.  Many seem to want to hand it to her like they did with Hillary.  But there are some that want a change.
    Someone like Tim Ryan from Ohio would be great for speaker, but yes they’ll fuck it up and hand it to Nancy.
  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    You mean like the 8 years of Obama? I’d love for Pelosi to step before the cameras and announce, “our number one priority over the next two years is to see Team Trump Treason fail.”
    six years, no?
    Yup, 6. 3Xs longer than we’ll have to try.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    unsung said:
    Did your team win?
    I'm for Team Planet and dems are generally more environmental than reps so overall it was possible a tiny Team Planet win in the House.  Unfortunately, dem Jessica Morse lost her bid to replace long time conservative, pro Trump, Planet hater Tom McClintock, so in the case, Team Planet took a hit.  That leaves me with a lot of unhappiness this morning.  :frowning:
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  • ConorKavanagh
    ConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    MayDay10 said:
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Thanks for your reply. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction for the U.S and hopefully more people will turn out to vote against him in 2018.
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  • unsung
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    This is my favorite type of government given the possible results.  I love gridlock.  Lock it down.  

    I remember when Starbucks had a petition to get govt going, I refused to sign, she couldn't understand why.  The next two years are going to be great.  Although I am definitely right sided on most things the GOP the last two years has been scared of their own shadows.  I hope no legislation gets passed.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    Tester/Ament won


  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Voted straight ticket female... if no woman was in the race, i didnt vote. 

    Will likely do that the rest of my life when possible. Same goes for minority candidates 
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/historic-firsts-midterms/index.html

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    Another 1st not mentioned - WA-8 went Dem for the first time ever, so WA flipped one of the House seats. Elected Dr. Kim Schrier, a local pediatrician, who ran on a healthcare reform platform. First time candidate going up against an established GOP candidate that had run (and lost) 3 previous state-wide elections. She will be the only female doctor in Congress. About time the old boys club of doctors gets a new perspective. 
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jeffbr said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Voted straight ticket female... if no woman was in the race, i didnt vote. 

    Will likely do that the rest of my life when possible. Same goes for minority candidates 
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/historic-firsts-midterms/index.html

    Progress
    Another 1st not mentioned - WA-8 went Dem for the first time ever, so WA flipped one of the House seats. Elected Dr. Kim Schrier, a local pediatrician, who ran on a healthcare reform platform. First time candidate going up against an established GOP candidate that had run (and lost) 3 previous state-wide elections. She will be the only female doctor in Congress. About time the old boys club of doctors gets a new perspective. 
    Love it.