Should I ask Agnes out on a date?

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,294
    The older men thing is a load of crap. If women were ONLY attracted to older men, I would be killing it with all the 21-25 year olds I hit on. But guess what, they don’t want to date their dad.
    Chill out Dennis Radar.
    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 14,382
    Yes
    I still have problems with my ass btw. 
    Thanks for the update. :plus_one:
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,048
    The older men thing is a load of crap. If women were ONLY attracted to older men, I would be killing it with all the 21-25 year olds I hit on. But guess what, they don’t want to date their dad.
    Chill out Dennis Radar.
    Just call me the HCD Killer.
  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 2,484
    No
    His mother has shaped his view on women in my opinion. I think the whole situation is very child like. I think T.A wants love. Needs love and with a mother like his he has not been nurtured. My opinion is he craves this but feels not worth anything to women.
    Sorry if it sounds like some weird shit
     It's just how I observe it.
    I think you're probably right. I'll try harder to remember that in the future.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 13,930
    edited January 30
    Yes
    PJ_Soul said:
    Plus, why would she want a guy 8 years her junior? Women are attracted to older guys. It's a proven fact and another thing I've learned in my university studies.
    Stop reading buzzfeeds articles about what women want. 
    This was taught to students last semester in a social psychology unit. Taught by my lecturer, based on evidence from many studies over many years. Plus it was in the prescribed text book on social psychology which I still have. Everything I say is not from stupid online articles but from evidence from studies of women and what they want.
    And yet, there are SO many women who have much younger long term partners. How odd!
    Seriously, saying that all women are only attracted to older guys is about the dumbest generalization I've ever heard, as well as one of the easiest to disprove. Whoever managed to convince you that that is a concrete fact should be fired.

    ◆ Evolutionary psychologists say that women seek men with financial security or traits predictive of future success in order to ensure the survival of their offspring.

    ◆ By contrast, men seek women who are young and attractive (physical attributes that signal health and fertility) and are not promiscuous (an attribute that diminishes certainty of paternity).

    Source:

     (Kassin, 2015, p. 323)

    Kassin, Saul. Social Psychology: Australian and New Zealand Edition. Cengage Learning AUS, 20150331. VitalBook file.



    "in an initial test of this theory, Buss (1989) and a team of researchers surveyed 10,047 men and women in 37 cultures in north and South america, asia, africa, eastern and Western europe, and the pacific. all respondents were asked to rank-order and rate the importance of various attributes in choosing a mate. the results were consistent with predictions. Both men and women gave equally high ratings to certain attributes, such as ‘having a pleasant disposition’. in the vast majority of countries, however, ‘good looks’ and ‘no previous experience in sexual intercourse’ were valued more by men, whereas ‘good financial prospect’ and ‘ambitious and industrious’ were more important to women. analyses of personal advertisements appearing in magazines and newspapers have similarly revealed that in the dating marketplace the ‘deal’ is that women offer beauty, while men offer wealth (Feingold, 1992a; rajecki et al., 1991; Sprecher et al., 1994). in the words of one investigator, the search for a heterosexual mate seems to feature ‘men as success objects and women as sex objects’ (davis, 1990)."

    (Kassin, 2015, p. 296)


    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning. 


    Post edited by Thoughts_Arrive on
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 13,930
    Yes
    PJ_Soul said:
    A good personality and little confidence goes a looooooonnnnnnnnnng way with a lot of women.

    And yes T_A... your attitude about women is 100% offensive, and what makes more people than just me worry that you're well on your way to being a fucking incel. Perhaps that is what's driving women away from you??
    I am offended that you are labelling me as a future incel. I don't hate women. I don't harbour animosity towards women. I ask you to retract your statement and apologise.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 13,930
    Yes
    His mother has shaped his view on women in my opinion. I think the whole situation is very child like. I think T.A wants love. Needs love and with a mother like his he has not been nurtured. My opinion is he craves this but feels not worth anything to women.
    Sorry if it sounds like some weird shit
     It's just how I observe it.
    Maybe. You could be right.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 13,930
    edited January 30
    Yes
    dankind said:
    Plus I don't feel I have anything to offer to a woman.
    Not employed, still living with my parents, not sure what I want to do with my life.
    Hardly an attractive option for a woman who would want financial stability, independence, career set.
    I was talking to my niece today about me not sure I still want to continue studying after I finish my bachelor's degree this year.
    Whether I want to take a gamble and pursue art full time or continue with psychology.
    And I am 35 soon. Lost soul much?
    Do you have a penis? Some girls just want the D. :lol:

    Seriously, though, your psychology program is shit. What year is your textbook from? You should get your money back from whatever bullshit university is teaching you this garbage. None of what you say that you learned in class has any basis in fact. It's anecdotal evidence from likely biased research. For every woman looking for a man to take care of her, there's a woman looking for a man to take care of -- and one looking for a woman to take care of her and one looking for a woman to take care of and one who just wants to take care of herself. I bet there's another set of likely biased research out there saying that most women just want to take care of a cat. That would also be bullshit. Even Dr. Freud's research was heavily influenced by his rampant sexism. Basically, everything he had to say regarding his observations of women, while it certainly makes for interesting reading, is at least 90% false. That's why some of those case studies read like fiction/porn. And besides, you should rarely believe anything you learn in the artificial microcosm of a university classroom. Nearly putting an entire gender into a single behavioral mindset should always raise some red flags.

    I will never in a million years make as much money as my wife. She wants to further her career. I don't even like to think of that word. It's gross to me. Career? Fuck that. I have a job, and I'll leave it at that. Every promotion I've been offered, I've turned down. While it would be nice, I don't need the extra money, and I certainly don't need the extra administrative shit that would come with a promotion. I'd rather just do my actual work than pretend to worry about the performance of a company I will never give two shits about.

    I didn't live with my parents when I met my wife. That probably would've been a much nicer place to bring her. No, I was sleeping on a mattress on the floor in a tiny apartment with at least four (but usually more) other dudes -- one of whom had photos of his sexual conquests pasted all over his bedroom door, which was right next to our front door. None of this mattered to her because we were simply attracted to each other. We shared similar interests, and we liked to fuck. All of which still holds true.

    And my wife is not a special case. My living situation was never great. A mattress on a floor was actually kind of a luxury. Some blankets piled in the only corner where my earlier roommates didn't spill their bongwater was where I slept for a couple of years as well. I had no car, no money, etc., but women still managed to somehow find me attractive and want to hang out with me -- and I'm going to go out on a limb here having had access to a mirror for most of my adult life and say that the attraction wasn't initially physical (anyone here who has met me can back this up); it was likely based on common interests, sense of humor, attitude, demeanor, etc. 

    I know it's been mentioned before by another poster, but the talking points that you've brought up here regarding women (namely, how shallow they are in their desires for a mate) are basically the seeds of the whole repugnant incel movement. The fact that they are planting these seeds in a university classroom is disgusting to me, and I think your university's psychology program should be discredited for spreading such obvious falsehoods as fact. I know that your toilets flush backward (to us :smiley: ) down under; hopefully, this class is an outlier and not indicative of backward education as well.

    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning.
    Post edited by Thoughts_Arrive on
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,219
    Yes
    PJ_Soul said:
    Plus, why would she want a guy 8 years her junior? Women are attracted to older guys. It's a proven fact and another thing I've learned in my university studies.
    Stop reading buzzfeeds articles about what women want. 
    This was taught to students last semester in a social psychology unit. Taught by my lecturer, based on evidence from many studies over many years. Plus it was in the prescribed text book on social psychology which I still have. Everything I say is not from stupid online articles but from evidence from studies of women and what they want.
    And yet, there are SO many women who have much younger long term partners. How odd!
    Seriously, saying that all women are only attracted to older guys is about the dumbest generalization I've ever heard, as well as one of the easiest to disprove. Whoever managed to convince you that that is a concrete fact should be fired.

    ◆ Evolutionary psychologists say that women seek men with financial security or traits predictive of future success in order to ensure the survival of their offspring.

    ◆ By contrast, men seek women who are young and attractive (physical attributes that signal health and fertility) and are not promiscuous (an attribute that diminishes certainty of paternity).

    Source:

     (Kassin, 2015, p. 323)

    Kassin, Saul. Social Psychology: Australian and New Zealand Edition. Cengage Learning AUS, 20150331. VitalBook file.



    "in an initial test of this theory, Buss (1989) and a team of researchers surveyed 10,047 men and women in 37 cultures in north and South america, asia, africa, eastern and Western europe, and the pacific. all respondents were asked to rank-order and rate the importance of various attributes in choosing a mate. the results were consistent with predictions. Both men and women gave equally high ratings to certain attributes, such as ‘having a pleasant disposition’. in the vast majority of countries, however, ‘good looks’ and ‘no previous experience in sexual intercourse’ were valued more by men, whereas ‘good financial prospect’ and ‘ambitious and industrious’ were more important to women. analyses of personal advertisements appearing in magazines and newspapers have similarly revealed that in the dating marketplace the ‘deal’ is that women offer beauty, while men offer wealth (Feingold, 1992a; rajecki et al., 1991; Sprecher et al., 1994). in the words of one investigator, the search for a heterosexual mate seems to feature ‘men as success objects and women as sex objects’ (davis, 1990)."

    (Kassin, 2015, p. 296)


    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning. 


    I don't think anyone here is disputing that a majority of women may seek certain attributes...just as men allegedly seek certain attributes in women. What people are disputing,  is that while these characteristics may be a majority, it it absolutely not the case for everyone. 

    In the past, I have read studies that a man will seek a woman with features that appear best suited for child bearing. Well, I have never wanted children and have never seeked a female for such reasons. 

    If a study suggests that women prefer a man with 1 leg and a face tattoo, would you:

    1. Hack off a leg and get inked up 
    2. Wait and seek out a woman who likes you for you.
    3. Self sabatoge yourself and continue to avoid the opposite sex all together
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,294
    I have always fallen for girls with long bangs. What chapter in the book brings that up?




    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 4,940
    Yes
    I have always fallen for girls with long bangs. What chapter in the book brings that up?




    A wonderfully attractive woman there
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 2,044
    This thread needs more long bangs. It's getting a little depressing in here.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • HobbesHobbes Pacific NorthwestPosts: 4,212
    See the source image
  • Been away for a bit. I see TA is getting some counselling. Good.

    Has Spiritual humped his friend yet?
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  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 2,484
    No
    dudeman said:
    This thread needs more long bangs. It's getting a little depressing in here.
    What's depressing? Dyer not being able to pick up women half his age anymore? :tongue:
  • HobbesHobbes Pacific NorthwestPosts: 4,212
    dudeman said:
    This thread needs more long bangs. It's getting a little depressing in here.
    What's depressing? Dyer not being able to pick up women half his age anymore? :tongue:
    With his bad back, he shouldn't be picking up anybody. :grimacing:
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 14,382
    Yes

    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 12,235
    PJ_Soul said:
    Plus, why would she want a guy 8 years her junior? Women are attracted to older guys. It's a proven fact and another thing I've learned in my university studies.
    Stop reading buzzfeeds articles about what women want. 
    This was taught to students last semester in a social psychology unit. Taught by my lecturer, based on evidence from many studies over many years. Plus it was in the prescribed text book on social psychology which I still have. Everything I say is not from stupid online articles but from evidence from studies of women and what they want.
    And yet, there are SO many women who have much younger long term partners. How odd!
    Seriously, saying that all women are only attracted to older guys is about the dumbest generalization I've ever heard, as well as one of the easiest to disprove. Whoever managed to convince you that that is a concrete fact should be fired.

    ◆ Evolutionary psychologists say that women seek men with financial security or traits predictive of future success in order to ensure the survival of their offspring.

    ◆ By contrast, men seek women who are young and attractive (physical attributes that signal health and fertility) and are not promiscuous (an attribute that diminishes certainty of paternity).

    Source:

     (Kassin, 2015, p. 323)

    Kassin, Saul. Social Psychology: Australian and New Zealand Edition. Cengage Learning AUS, 20150331. VitalBook file.



    "in an initial test of this theory, Buss (1989) and a team of researchers surveyed 10,047 men and women in 37 cultures in north and South america, asia, africa, eastern and Western europe, and the pacific. all respondents were asked to rank-order and rate the importance of various attributes in choosing a mate. the results were consistent with predictions. Both men and women gave equally high ratings to certain attributes, such as ‘having a pleasant disposition’. in the vast majority of countries, however, ‘good looks’ and ‘no previous experience in sexual intercourse’ were valued more by men, whereas ‘good financial prospect’ and ‘ambitious and industrious’ were more important to women. analyses of personal advertisements appearing in magazines and newspapers have similarly revealed that in the dating marketplace the ‘deal’ is that women offer beauty, while men offer wealth (Feingold, 1992a; rajecki et al., 1991; Sprecher et al., 1994). in the words of one investigator, the search for a heterosexual mate seems to feature ‘men as success objects and women as sex objects’ (davis, 1990)."

    (Kassin, 2015, p. 296)


    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning. 


    Dude, if you are this far into a degree in psychology, you should be able to understand that broad trends and inclinations in testing scenarios are illustrative, but of little use in the real world.
    At least half of the women who answered those questions loves a man who doesn't conform to what they themselves indicated with their answers.

    If you can't understand the difference between these kinds of studies and the real way people behave...you should find another field.
    Psychology is a bit of a joke on it's own, but when it's treated like fact the way you here, it's worthless.

    Regarding the Incel deal, PJSoul isn't the only one who thinks you are treading dangerous waters.
    You have to get 2 things through your head in order to fully respect women...
    1.  Women are not a monolith that all want the same thing.
    2.  You DON'T KNOW what a particular woman wants until you get to know her.

    Somebody joked that you don't know, some women just want the D.  It's a joke, but it's not.  It's literally true, in many cases.  
    Just because she has ovaries doesn't mean she wants a strong man with success indicators to take care of her.
    You do a disservice to women by assuming what they think, feel, and want.  I think a large part of it is just you being overdramatic, woe is me kind of stuff...but Incel hatred starts with lumping women together as an "other" that is feared and then later hated.

    I don't believe you hate women, but I see it as the path to the dark side.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,048
    edited January 30
    dudeman said:
    This thread needs more long bangs. It's getting a little depressing in here.
    What's depressing? Dyer not being able to pick up women half his age anymore? :tongue:
    Anymore?

    (I never could.)
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 12,235
    edited January 30
    dankind said:
    Plus I don't feel I have anything to offer to a woman.
    Not employed, still living with my parents, not sure what I want to do with my life.
    Hardly an attractive option for a woman who would want financial stability, independence, career set.
    I was talking to my niece today about me not sure I still want to continue studying after I finish my bachelor's degree this year.
    Whether I want to take a gamble and pursue art full time or continue with psychology.
    And I am 35 soon. Lost soul much?
    Do you have a penis? Some girls just want the D. :lol:

    Seriously, though, your psychology program is shit. What year is your textbook from? You should get your money back from whatever bullshit university is teaching you this garbage. None of what you say that you learned in class has any basis in fact. It's anecdotal evidence from likely biased research. For every woman looking for a man to take care of her, there's a woman looking for a man to take care of -- and one looking for a woman to take care of her and one looking for a woman to take care of and one who just wants to take care of herself. I bet there's another set of likely biased research out there saying that most women just want to take care of a cat. That would also be bullshit. Even Dr. Freud's research was heavily influenced by his rampant sexism. Basically, everything he had to say regarding his observations of women, while it certainly makes for interesting reading, is at least 90% false. That's why some of those case studies read like fiction/porn. And besides, you should rarely believe anything you learn in the artificial microcosm of a university classroom. Nearly putting an entire gender into a single behavioral mindset should always raise some red flags.

    I will never in a million years make as much money as my wife. She wants to further her career. I don't even like to think of that word. It's gross to me. Career? Fuck that. I have a job, and I'll leave it at that. Every promotion I've been offered, I've turned down. While it would be nice, I don't need the extra money, and I certainly don't need the extra administrative shit that would come with a promotion. I'd rather just do my actual work than pretend to worry about the performance of a company I will never give two shits about.

    I didn't live with my parents when I met my wife. That probably would've been a much nicer place to bring her. No, I was sleeping on a mattress on the floor in a tiny apartment with at least four (but usually more) other dudes -- one of whom had photos of his sexual conquests pasted all over his bedroom door, which was right next to our front door. None of this mattered to her because we were simply attracted to each other. We shared similar interests, and we liked to fuck. All of which still holds true.

    And my wife is not a special case. My living situation was never great. A mattress on a floor was actually kind of a luxury. Some blankets piled in the only corner where my earlier roommates didn't spill their bongwater was where I slept for a couple of years as well. I had no car, no money, etc., but women still managed to somehow find me attractive and want to hang out with me -- and I'm going to go out on a limb here having had access to a mirror for most of my adult life and say that the attraction wasn't initially physical (anyone here who has met me can back this up); it was likely based on common interests, sense of humor, attitude, demeanor, etc. 

    I know it's been mentioned before by another poster, but the talking points that you've brought up here regarding women (namely, how shallow they are in their desires for a mate) are basically the seeds of the whole repugnant incel movement. The fact that they are planting these seeds in a university classroom is disgusting to me, and I think your university's psychology program should be discredited for spreading such obvious falsehoods as fact. I know that your toilets flush backward (to us :smiley: ) down under; hopefully, this class is an outlier and not indicative of backward education as well.

    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning.
    My wife is very classically beautiful in the face and her body is hot like an Instagram model.  She's also a doctor.
    I am a hirsute hillbilly who works manual labor part-time for 11.00$ an hour.

    Suck it Kassin, Markus, McBain, and Williams!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,219
    Yes
    rgambs said:
    dankind said:
    Plus I don't feel I have anything to offer to a woman.
    Not employed, still living with my parents, not sure what I want to do with my life.
    Hardly an attractive option for a woman who would want financial stability, independence, career set.
    I was talking to my niece today about me not sure I still want to continue studying after I finish my bachelor's degree this year.
    Whether I want to take a gamble and pursue art full time or continue with psychology.
    And I am 35 soon. Lost soul much?
    Do you have a penis? Some girls just want the D. :lol:

    Seriously, though, your psychology program is shit. What year is your textbook from? You should get your money back from whatever bullshit university is teaching you this garbage. None of what you say that you learned in class has any basis in fact. It's anecdotal evidence from likely biased research. For every woman looking for a man to take care of her, there's a woman looking for a man to take care of -- and one looking for a woman to take care of her and one looking for a woman to take care of and one who just wants to take care of herself. I bet there's another set of likely biased research out there saying that most women just want to take care of a cat. That would also be bullshit. Even Dr. Freud's research was heavily influenced by his rampant sexism. Basically, everything he had to say regarding his observations of women, while it certainly makes for interesting reading, is at least 90% false. That's why some of those case studies read like fiction/porn. And besides, you should rarely believe anything you learn in the artificial microcosm of a university classroom. Nearly putting an entire gender into a single behavioral mindset should always raise some red flags.

    I will never in a million years make as much money as my wife. She wants to further her career. I don't even like to think of that word. It's gross to me. Career? Fuck that. I have a job, and I'll leave it at that. Every promotion I've been offered, I've turned down. While it would be nice, I don't need the extra money, and I certainly don't need the extra administrative shit that would come with a promotion. I'd rather just do my actual work than pretend to worry about the performance of a company I will never give two shits about.

    I didn't live with my parents when I met my wife. That probably would've been a much nicer place to bring her. No, I was sleeping on a mattress on the floor in a tiny apartment with at least four (but usually more) other dudes -- one of whom had photos of his sexual conquests pasted all over his bedroom door, which was right next to our front door. None of this mattered to her because we were simply attracted to each other. We shared similar interests, and we liked to fuck. All of which still holds true.

    And my wife is not a special case. My living situation was never great. A mattress on a floor was actually kind of a luxury. Some blankets piled in the only corner where my earlier roommates didn't spill their bongwater was where I slept for a couple of years as well. I had no car, no money, etc., but women still managed to somehow find me attractive and want to hang out with me -- and I'm going to go out on a limb here having had access to a mirror for most of my adult life and say that the attraction wasn't initially physical (anyone here who has met me can back this up); it was likely based on common interests, sense of humor, attitude, demeanor, etc. 

    I know it's been mentioned before by another poster, but the talking points that you've brought up here regarding women (namely, how shallow they are in their desires for a mate) are basically the seeds of the whole repugnant incel movement. The fact that they are planting these seeds in a university classroom is disgusting to me, and I think your university's psychology program should be discredited for spreading such obvious falsehoods as fact. I know that your toilets flush backward (to us :smiley: ) down under; hopefully, this class is an outlier and not indicative of backward education as well.

    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning.
    My wife is very classically beautiful in the face and her body is hot like an Instagram model.  She's also a doctor.
    I am a hirsute hillbilly who works manual labor part-time for 11.00$ an hour.

    Suck it Kassin, Markus, McBain, and Williams!
    She have a sister? :lol:
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 12,235
    rgambs said:
    dankind said:
    Plus I don't feel I have anything to offer to a woman.
    Not employed, still living with my parents, not sure what I want to do with my life.
    Hardly an attractive option for a woman who would want financial stability, independence, career set.
    I was talking to my niece today about me not sure I still want to continue studying after I finish my bachelor's degree this year.
    Whether I want to take a gamble and pursue art full time or continue with psychology.
    And I am 35 soon. Lost soul much?
    Do you have a penis? Some girls just want the D. :lol:

    Seriously, though, your psychology program is shit. What year is your textbook from? You should get your money back from whatever bullshit university is teaching you this garbage. None of what you say that you learned in class has any basis in fact. It's anecdotal evidence from likely biased research. For every woman looking for a man to take care of her, there's a woman looking for a man to take care of -- and one looking for a woman to take care of her and one looking for a woman to take care of and one who just wants to take care of herself. I bet there's another set of likely biased research out there saying that most women just want to take care of a cat. That would also be bullshit. Even Dr. Freud's research was heavily influenced by his rampant sexism. Basically, everything he had to say regarding his observations of women, while it certainly makes for interesting reading, is at least 90% false. That's why some of those case studies read like fiction/porn. And besides, you should rarely believe anything you learn in the artificial microcosm of a university classroom. Nearly putting an entire gender into a single behavioral mindset should always raise some red flags.

    I will never in a million years make as much money as my wife. She wants to further her career. I don't even like to think of that word. It's gross to me. Career? Fuck that. I have a job, and I'll leave it at that. Every promotion I've been offered, I've turned down. While it would be nice, I don't need the extra money, and I certainly don't need the extra administrative shit that would come with a promotion. I'd rather just do my actual work than pretend to worry about the performance of a company I will never give two shits about.

    I didn't live with my parents when I met my wife. That probably would've been a much nicer place to bring her. No, I was sleeping on a mattress on the floor in a tiny apartment with at least four (but usually more) other dudes -- one of whom had photos of his sexual conquests pasted all over his bedroom door, which was right next to our front door. None of this mattered to her because we were simply attracted to each other. We shared similar interests, and we liked to fuck. All of which still holds true.

    And my wife is not a special case. My living situation was never great. A mattress on a floor was actually kind of a luxury. Some blankets piled in the only corner where my earlier roommates didn't spill their bongwater was where I slept for a couple of years as well. I had no car, no money, etc., but women still managed to somehow find me attractive and want to hang out with me -- and I'm going to go out on a limb here having had access to a mirror for most of my adult life and say that the attraction wasn't initially physical (anyone here who has met me can back this up); it was likely based on common interests, sense of humor, attitude, demeanor, etc. 

    I know it's been mentioned before by another poster, but the talking points that you've brought up here regarding women (namely, how shallow they are in their desires for a mate) are basically the seeds of the whole repugnant incel movement. The fact that they are planting these seeds in a university classroom is disgusting to me, and I think your university's psychology program should be discredited for spreading such obvious falsehoods as fact. I know that your toilets flush backward (to us :smiley: ) down under; hopefully, this class is an outlier and not indicative of backward education as well.

    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning.
    My wife is very classically beautiful in the face and her body is hot like an Instagram model.  She's also a doctor.
    I am a hirsute hillbilly who works manual labor part-time for 11.00$ an hour.

    Suck it Kassin, Markus, McBain, and Williams!
    She have a sister? :lol:
    Yeah, but she married a successful guy lol
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 47,769
    edited January 30
    Yes

    PJ_Soul said:
    Plus, why would she want a guy 8 years her junior? Women are attracted to older guys. It's a proven fact and another thing I've learned in my university studies.
    Stop reading buzzfeeds articles about what women want. 
    This was taught to students last semester in a social psychology unit. Taught by my lecturer, based on evidence from many studies over many years. Plus it was in the prescribed text book on social psychology which I still have. Everything I say is not from stupid online articles but from evidence from studies of women and what they want.
    And yet, there are SO many women who have much younger long term partners. How odd!
    Seriously, saying that all women are only attracted to older guys is about the dumbest generalization I've ever heard, as well as one of the easiest to disprove. Whoever managed to convince you that that is a concrete fact should be fired.

    ◆ Evolutionary psychologists say that women seek men with financial security or traits predictive of future success in order to ensure the survival of their offspring.

    ◆ By contrast, men seek women who are young and attractive (physical attributes that signal health and fertility) and are not promiscuous (an attribute that diminishes certainty of paternity).

    Source:

     (Kassin, 2015, p. 323)

    Kassin, Saul. Social Psychology: Australian and New Zealand Edition. Cengage Learning AUS, 20150331. VitalBook file.



    "in an initial test of this theory, Buss (1989) and a team of researchers surveyed 10,047 men and women in 37 cultures in north and South america, asia, africa, eastern and Western europe, and the pacific. all respondents were asked to rank-order and rate the importance of various attributes in choosing a mate. the results were consistent with predictions. Both men and women gave equally high ratings to certain attributes, such as ‘having a pleasant disposition’. in the vast majority of countries, however, ‘good looks’ and ‘no previous experience in sexual intercourse’ were valued more by men, whereas ‘good financial prospect’ and ‘ambitious and industrious’ were more important to women. analyses of personal advertisements appearing in magazines and newspapers have similarly revealed that in the dating marketplace the ‘deal’ is that women offer beauty, while men offer wealth (Feingold, 1992a; rajecki et al., 1991; Sprecher et al., 1994). in the words of one investigator, the search for a heterosexual mate seems to feature ‘men as success objects and women as sex objects’ (davis, 1990)."

    (Kassin, 2015, p. 296)


    Kassin, S., Fein, S., & Markus, H. R., McBain, K. A., & Williams, L. A. (2015) Social psychology: Australian & New Zealand Edition. Melbourne, Australia: Cengage Learning. 


    Yeah dude, I took evolutionary psychology in university as well. I know these studies as well as you do. I also know how they are basically bullshit when it comes to humans living real life day to day, and know FOR SURE that it makes zero sense to reference them when you're considering your dating life, lol. Shit has changed... and I remember the prof who taught that crap to us and presented it as though it was applicable to all modern women got a huge backlash, many articles were written about what an asshole he was... and he was like 80 years old.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 47,769
    Yes
    PJ_Soul said:
    A good personality and little confidence goes a looooooonnnnnnnnnng way with a lot of women.

    And yes T_A... your attitude about women is 100% offensive, and what makes more people than just me worry that you're well on your way to being a fucking incel. Perhaps that is what's driving women away from you??
    I am offended that you are labelling me as a future incel. I don't hate women. I don't harbour animosity towards women. I ask you to retract your statement and apologise.
    I'm not labeling you as a future incel and I'm not apologizing. I said that the way you talk (including that time when you literally said you're like an incel, lol) makes people worry that you're on your way to becoming one. The way you speak of women is demeaning... and I don't see you apologizing for that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,219
    Yes
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    A good personality and little confidence goes a looooooonnnnnnnnnng way with a lot of women.

    And yes T_A... your attitude about women is 100% offensive, and what makes more people than just me worry that you're well on your way to being a fucking incel. Perhaps that is what's driving women away from you??
    I am offended that you are labelling me as a future incel. I don't hate women. I don't harbour animosity towards women. I ask you to retract your statement and apologise.
    I'm not labeling you as a future incel and I'm not apologizing. I said that the way you talk (including that time when you literally said you're like an incel, lol) makes people worry that you're on your way to becoming one. The way you speak of women is demeaning... and I don't see you apologizing for that.
    Fuck yes! The Agnes thread is back with a vengeance!!!  :o  =)
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 12,235
    Has anybody else been wondering all along that this thread is actually about Angus?

    And while I'm bong-deep in thought, has anybody else ever secretly wondered if thoughts arrive is actually an Alpha Chad trolling us all?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 2,484
    No
    Deep Thoughts by rgambs... =)

    rgambs said:
    Has anybody else been wondering all along that this thread is actually about Angus?

    And while I'm bong-deep in thought, has anybody else ever secretly wondered if thoughts arrive is actually an Alpha Chad trolling us all?
    Whatever would give you that impression?





  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 2,484
    No
    rgambs said:
    Has anybody else been wondering all along that this thread is actually about Angus?

    And while I'm bong-deep in thought, has anybody else ever secretly wondered if thoughts arrive is actually an Alpha Chad trolling us all?
    Do you think Spiritual is an American, rgambs?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 12,235
    rgambs said:
    Has anybody else been wondering all along that this thread is actually about Angus?

    And while I'm bong-deep in thought, has anybody else ever secretly wondered if thoughts arrive is actually an Alpha Chad trolling us all?
    Do you think Spiritual is an American, rgambs?
    It would make sense in a weird way...dude went to Sweden once for 2 weeks and now pretends to be Swedish on the internet since Trump got elected.
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  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 2,484
    No
    ...and his butt still hurts.
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