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  • njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Are those alternate facts that you’re believing in?
     

    What facts are you believing?   If you’re referring to the accusations they’ve yet to be proven true or false.  You and I have no idea.  That’s the point.  
    That he claimed, under oath before the committee, and last night on Faux News that he wasn’t an excessive partying drinker. Evidence seems to contradict that. Facts, things that are in print, witness statements. But beside that, he also lied about how he came into possession of dem documents during the Ken Starr investigation. And if he’s confirmed and seated, you’ll see a dem house hold impeachment hearings. 
     
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  • tbergs
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    njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Are those alternate facts that you’re believing in?
     

    What facts are you believing?   If you’re referring to the accusations they’ve yet to be proven true or false.  You and I have no idea.  That’s the point.  
    Ever been accused of something you didn't do? Ever had multiple people then come forward after the first accusation? Ever gone through a full background for a job? How about a psych eval for a job? How'd you handle it? How about hired someonewith an allegation because it wasn't proven? 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • EdsonNascimento
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    edited September 2018
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Disingenuous 
    Classic emotional response when your argument is proven foolish.  You forgot to correct my grammar.   

    You also forgot got to call me a nincompoop 
    I simply prefer people to use correctly spelled words when they try to intimidate me. Which you don't. 
    Intimidate?  Ha ha. It’s the fucking internet.  If you’re (not) feeling intimidated that’s all on you.  I‘m  just trying to have a silly internet discussion.  We are in our own little Pearl Jam bubble.  I will go outside to the real world and this means nothing.  It’s a fucking message board.  Too funny.   
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    Question: she knows these guys are drugging and gang raping girls in 1981... and she continues to hang out with them, becoming a victim herself in 1982? 

    What am I missing?

    You know it has no bearing on this SCOTUS appointment but it is a very good question to be asking her (ask to understand).  Cause that is some seriously scaring shit right there.  Knowing what is going on and continually putting yourself at risk....scary indeed.
    It's common, not unusual. You can find girls who do this in literally every high school and college in America.
    I gotta ask, is it really common for girls to think guys are drugging or getting girls drunk, locking them in a room and guys lining up outside the room each taking a turn?  That doesn;t seem common at all to me.  I'm sure the drugging/alcohol could probably be called common...but gang bangs?  Really?  Without any girls saying anything?  I sure hope that's not common.  And it's what has me interested in her perspective as to why she and no one else said anything.
    You've never been to a frat party, have you?
    So gang bangs at every frat party? Cause that’s what I’m talking about.  So you’ve been to a frat party where a girl was gang banged and you did nothing?
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  • mfc2006
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    Someone actually wants to bet about whether or not these assaults happened? Are you fucking serious?? 
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  • Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    How is his life ruined? He goes back to the DC circuit and hits the speaker circuit to lecture about evil liberal dem women and their false allegations to protect their radical abortion agenda. Ruined? And why not an FBI investigation? What is he afraid of, or what are you afraid of, if he’s innocent as you and he claim?
     
    That’s what you think the end result of this is if she’s proven to have not quite told the truth?   I want to live in your world.  
    If an FBI investigation clears Kavanaugh as you seem to believe in his innocence, he gets confirmed and sits on the SC. If there’s confirmation of the allegations and his nomination is withdrawn or he’s voted down, he returns to the DC circuit. His life is hardly “ruined.” Further, why would his life be ruined if he’s the innocent choir boy he claims to be? Seems you might not believe in his innocence and are playing the “victim” card.
    Ha ha. Typical left.  Please quote where I said I think he’s innocent.
    So you’re okay with a “guilty” sex offender or perjurer sitting on the Supreme Court? Is that what your argument has become? Are you outraged by kapernick and did you burn your Nike’s?
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  • njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Disingenuous 
    Classic emotional response when your argument is proven foolish.  You forgot to correct my grammar.   

    You also forgot got to call me a nincompoop 

    If the shoe fits....
    I’m rubber you’re glue.  You guys are funny.  Instead of keeping an open mind and trying to hear other people and possibilities, you’ve dug yourself into your own beliefs so hard that it’s actualy funny.  Doesn’t mean your ultimate belief is changed,  no worries.  Clearly very safely in place.  Or maybe you’re worried about that so you dig in further?  

    Here -  you are 100% correct and anyone that disagrees is just plain stupid and wrong on top of being pure evil.   I mean Eddie even said so,  You win. Enjoy bliss. 
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    How is his life ruined? He goes back to the DC circuit and hits the speaker circuit to lecture about evil liberal dem women and their false allegations to protect their radical abortion agenda. Ruined? And why not an FBI investigation? What is he afraid of, or what are you afraid of, if he’s innocent as you and he claim?
     
    That’s what you think the end result of this is if she’s proven to have not quite told the truth?   I want to live in your world.  
    If an FBI investigation clears Kavanaugh as you seem to believe in his innocence, he gets confirmed and sits on the SC. If there’s confirmation of the allegations and his nomination is withdrawn or he’s voted down, he returns to the DC circuit. His life is hardly “ruined.” Further, why would his life be ruined if he’s the innocent choir boy he claims to be? Seems you might not believe in his innocence and are playing the “victim” card.
    Ha ha. Typical left.  Please quote where I said I think he’s innocent.
    So you’re okay with a “guilty” sex offender or perjurer sitting on the Supreme Court? Is that what your argument has become? Are you outraged by kapernick and did you burn your Nike’s?
    He went outside.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Are those alternate facts that you’re believing in?
     

    What facts are you believing?   If you’re referring to the accusations they’ve yet to be proven true or false.  You and I have no idea.  That’s the point.  

    Facts are, he's already lied under oath; several documented times before these allegations were even raised, actually. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Disingenuous 
    Classic emotional response when your argument is proven foolish.  You forgot to correct my grammar.   

    You also forgot got to call me a nincompoop 

    If the shoe fits....
    I’m rubber you’re glue.  You guys are funny.  Instead of keeping an open mind and trying to hear other people and possibilities, you’ve dug yourself into your own beliefs so hard that it’s actualy funny.  Doesn’t mean your ultimate belief is changed,  no worries.  Clearly very safely in place.  Or maybe you’re worried about that so you dig in further?  

    Here -  you are 100% correct and anyone that disagrees is just plain stupid and wrong on top of being pure evil.   I mean Eddie even said so,  You win. Enjoy bliss. 

    Hyperbole - the last stand when you don't have another argument. 
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    mfc2006 said:
    Someone actually wants to bet about whether or not these assaults happened? Are you fucking serious?? 
    Yup - they're just having some internet message board 'fun'. 
  • njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Are those alternate facts that you’re believing in?
     

    What facts are you believing?   If you’re referring to the accusations they’ve yet to be proven true or false.  You and I have no idea.  That’s the point.  

    Facts are, he's already lied under oath; several documented times before these allegations were even raised, actually. 
    Ok.  So address that. Don’t use a device for Machiavellian purposes. 

    That being said, the way our democracy works, he gets voted on under current leadership and there you go.   

    Work to elect a different congress and president, and then you get the “spoils”.  Don’t try to circumvent it to fix things the way you want them.  

    We survived jimmy carter.  Nyc survived David Dinkins, so no worries. The pendulum swings.  Right now, it’s against your beliefs.  Very soon it will more align. Our framers were geniuses 
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  • rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    Question: she knows these guys are drugging and gang raping girls in 1981... and she continues to hang out with them, becoming a victim herself in 1982? 

    What am I missing?

    You know it has no bearing on this SCOTUS appointment but it is a very good question to be asking her (ask to understand).  Cause that is some seriously scaring shit right there.  Knowing what is going on and continually putting yourself at risk....scary indeed.
    It's common, not unusual. You can find girls who do this in literally every high school and college in America.
    I gotta ask, is it really common for girls to think guys are drugging or getting girls drunk, locking them in a room and guys lining up outside the room each taking a turn?  That doesn;t seem common at all to me.  I'm sure the drugging/alcohol could probably be called common...but gang bangs?  Really?  Without any girls saying anything?  I sure hope that's not common.  And it's what has me interested in her perspective as to why she and no one else said anything.
    You've never been to a frat party, have you?
    So gang bangs at every frat party? Cause that’s what I’m talking about.  So you’ve been to a frat party where a girl was gang banged and you did nothing?
    If it doesn’t happen at “every” frat party, it didn’t happen? And if we didn’t personally attend a frat party where it happened, we did nothing? Who the fuck said, “every.” De nile isn’t a river in Egypt.
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  • Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    How is his life ruined? He goes back to the DC circuit and hits the speaker circuit to lecture about evil liberal dem women and their false allegations to protect their radical abortion agenda. Ruined? And why not an FBI investigation? What is he afraid of, or what are you afraid of, if he’s innocent as you and he claim?
     
    That’s what you think the end result of this is if she’s proven to have not quite told the truth?   I want to live in your world.  
    If an FBI investigation clears Kavanaugh as you seem to believe in his innocence, he gets confirmed and sits on the SC. If there’s confirmation of the allegations and his nomination is withdrawn or he’s voted down, he returns to the DC circuit. His life is hardly “ruined.” Further, why would his life be ruined if he’s the innocent choir boy he claims to be? Seems you might not believe in his innocence and are playing the “victim” card.
    Ha ha. Typical left.  Please quote where I said I think he’s innocent.
    So you’re okay with a “guilty” sex offender or perjurer sitting on the Supreme Court? Is that what your argument has become? Are you outraged by kapernick and did you burn your Nike’s?
    He’s guilty?   Huh.  Hadn’t seen that. I’ve heard accusations that need consideration.  Haven’t seen guilty yet. .  Interesting.  

    And for for the record, I made no argument.   I proposed a hypothetica proposal to appease the left and the right.   That hypothetical can’t happen,  but I find the responses interesting.  

    And couldnt care care less about mediocre QB that turned down a $14 million guaranteed option and claimed victim hood or how his business partner who was paying him anyway decided to use him.  Buy Nike. Why would I care?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Are those alternate facts that you’re believing in?
     

    What facts are you believing?   If you’re referring to the accusations they’ve yet to be proven true or false.  You and I have no idea.  That’s the point.  

    Facts are, he's already lied under oath; several documented times before these allegations were even raised, actually. 
    Ok.  So address that. Don’t use a device for Machiavellian purposes. 

    That being said, the way our democracy works, he gets voted on under current leadership and there you go.   

    Work to elect a different congress and president, and then you get the “spoils”.  Don’t try to circumvent it to fix things the way you want them.  

    We survived jimmy carter.  Nyc survived David Dinkins, so no worries. The pendulum swings.  Right now, it’s against your beliefs.  Very soon it will more align. Our framers were geniuses 

    What was your solution again? That he gets confirmed but doesn't do the job until after an investigation is completed to see if he can do that job? Is this how you typically hire people? Because I think most people would think it makes sense to ensure that someone can do the job before he or she is hired, rather than having to fire them after you find out that they can't. 

    And somehow this was supposed to make the FBI investigation go more quickly? I don't think you explained that bit, which isn't surprising. 
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    Only two people need to be influenced.  Word is 6 Republicans now have concern.  My money is no confirmation at this point.  There's a ton of noise on this board saying little. 

    I find the Kavanaugh statement for tomorrow very interesting. He has backed off the "choir boy" strategy from the the interview. He's now talking about bad choices in his younger days.  
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    mfc2006 said:
    Someone actually wants to bet about whether or not these assaults happened? Are you fucking serious?? 
    Hell yeah!  You down?  Although honestly I’d much rather Halifax-  he burps up most of the santorum we see in amt.
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  • njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    How about this....put the appointment on hold until the investigation is done.  We operated with 8 justices for most of 2016 if you remember.
    Except you know and I know that means he never gets confirmed.  So if she recants or is proven liar his life is ruined.   My option allows everyone to get what they want.  Your option only ensures you get what you want.   If this was brought up timely as Feinstein very easily could have in an anonymous fashion, ok.  But this smells of something else, and unfortunately those playing that game don’t like others calling their potential bluff.  
    Please stop with the 'if this was brought up in a timely manner' blather. It came up when it came up. And then people started talking, people from his past. Not people being paid by the Democratic CON MEN. It's simply ridiculous to continually hear this pathetic excuse about Feinstein.

    Get over it. The dam has burst. 
    I’m not over it because I was never under it.  You’re assuming what I think of his nomination.  Whatever it is is irrelevant.  

    Unlike many of you, I’m sticking to facts as we know them today.   What you are saying is disengenuous at best.  
    Disingenuous 
    Classic emotional response when your argument is proven foolish.  You forgot to correct my grammar.   

    You also forgot got to call me a nincompoop 

    If the shoe fits....
    I’m rubber you’re glue.  You guys are funny.  Instead of keeping an open mind and trying to hear other people and possibilities, you’ve dug yourself into your own beliefs so hard that it’s actualy funny.  Doesn’t mean your ultimate belief is changed,  no worries.  Clearly very safely in place.  Or maybe you’re worried about that so you dig in further?  

    Here -  you are 100% correct and anyone that disagrees is just plain stupid and wrong on top of being pure evil.   I mean Eddie even said so,  You win. Enjoy bliss. 
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