Beto O'Rourke

pjl44

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

Halifax2TheMax

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

Who are the “they” you refer to?

PJ_Soul

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

That's only true for some. You know that the Catholic Church still opposes birth control, right? And that many bible thumpers preach abstinence for a reason? But even worse, those anti-abortionists who don't oppose standard birth control are mostly still SUPER against Planned Parenthood, which, of course, distributes birth control, offers education on it, and generally provides medical services for women, including pregnant ones who want to carry to term.

Halifax2TheMax

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/series/gagged-trump-s-global-assault-on-family-planning

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-0708-wen-dystopia-20180703-story.html

Keep believing the myth.

 

pjl44

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/series/gagged-trump-s-global-assault-on-family-planning

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-0708-wen-dystopia-20180703-story.html

Keep believing the myth.

 

I'm talking about most pro-lifers. The issue in the article you're posting is about a much wider range public health funding issue. Birth control is being impacted, but are you saying pro-lifers hate insulin too?

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

That's only true for some. You know that the Catholic Church still opposes birth control, right? And that many bible thumpers preach abstinence for a reason? But even worse, those anti-abortionists who don't oppose standard birth control are mostly still SUPER against Planned Parenthood, which, of course, distributes birth control, offers education on it, and generally provides medical services for women, including pregnant ones who want to carry to term.

Catholics don't move in lock step with the church and public funding of a good is different than restriction of sale. I'm talking banning as in take it off the market. If someone says they're fine with it being sold but they don't want to pay for it, that's a separate thing.

Halifax2TheMax

pjl44 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/series/gagged-trump-s-global-assault-on-family-planning

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-0708-wen-dystopia-20180703-story.html

Keep believing the myth.

 

I'm talking about most pro-lifers. The issue in the article you're posting is about a much wider range public health funding issue. Birth control is being impacted, but are you saying pro-lifers hate insulin too?

No, the insulin story is an analogy of how perfectly legal birth control and family planning that you claimed were acceptable to “pro-lifers” are under assualt by Team Trump Treason’s ass kissing of Evangelicals with nothing but kudos from the “pro-life” despite the overwhelming evidence that those policies reduce unwanted pregnancies and improve women’s lives. Where are these “pro-lifers” you speak of speaking out against these policies? How many planned Parenthood clinics are left in Texas?

Like I said, keep believing the myth.

pjl44

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjl44 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/series/gagged-trump-s-global-assault-on-family-planning

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-0708-wen-dystopia-20180703-story.html

Keep believing the myth.

 

I'm talking about most pro-lifers. The issue in the article you're posting is about a much wider range public health funding issue. Birth control is being impacted, but are you saying pro-lifers hate insulin too?

No, the insulin story is an analogy of how perfectly legal birth control and family planning that you claimed were acceptable to “pro-lifers” are under assualt by Team Trump Treason’s ass kissing of Evangelicals with nothing but kudos from the “pro-life” despite the overwhelming evidence that those policies reduce unwanted pregnancies and improve women’s lives. Where are these “pro-lifers” you speak of speaking out against these policies? How many planned Parenthood clinics are left in Texas?

Like I said, keep believing the myth.

It's clear you have no ability to have a civil discussion 

Halifax2TheMax

pjl44 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjl44 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

Depends on the contraception. If anything they oppose things like Plan B but are generally fine with standard birth control pills, condoms, etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/series/gagged-trump-s-global-assault-on-family-planning

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-0708-wen-dystopia-20180703-story.html

Keep believing the myth.

 

I'm talking about most pro-lifers. The issue in the article you're posting is about a much wider range public health funding issue. Birth control is being impacted, but are you saying pro-lifers hate insulin too?

No, the insulin story is an analogy of how perfectly legal birth control and family planning that you claimed were acceptable to “pro-lifers” are under assualt by Team Trump Treason’s ass kissing of Evangelicals with nothing but kudos from the “pro-life” despite the overwhelming evidence that those policies reduce unwanted pregnancies and improve women’s lives. Where are these “pro-lifers” you speak of speaking out against these policies? How many planned Parenthood clinics are left in Texas?

Like I said, keep believing the myth.

It's clear you have no ability to have a civil discussion 

Really? You posit a myth, I call you out on it, provide links to disspell your myth and now I have no ability to have a civil discussion?

 https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/08/03/planned-parenthood-ban-caused-decline-texas-womens-access-health-care-report-says
 
Ahh, the great state of Texas, caring about their women’s health.
 

Halifax2TheMax

Must be a blizzard of a low T snow storm around these parts. Sheesh.

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

the pro-birth folks confuse me.

they seem to want to restrict contraception which leads to a rise in unintended/unwanted prenancies. which leads to a rise in abortions sought.

I should think they would want pregnancies with intention.

I say pro-birth cuz it aint about life and living. they want to cut education, social support, etc...

its once you're born , you can go fuck yourself kid.

No need for any confusion.

Sure, they dont want any unborn babies getting killed in the womb.


But what they really really really dont want is young ladies getting laid, especially before marriage.

Halifax2TheMax

And seeing how this is the Beto thread, where does the boogerman stand on the women’s health/family planning issue? Oh yea, right.

PJ_Soul

Oops

oftenreading

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJPOWER said:

As above, two deaths. Two. 

Maybe, but since people here like to post every incident of gun violence, here is some recent incidents of grenade violence in Sweden:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

2002-2012

• Four hand grenades exploded under cars in Gothenburg between 2002 and 2006 (one in 2002 and in 2004, and two in 2006). The attacks were linked to a local Bandidos group that was founded and led by Mehdi Seyyed.[22] Seyyed was sentenced to nine years in prison for the two attacks in 2006.[23]
• Two explosive attacks or attempts (one in 2011, one in 2008), were reported to be as a result of hand grenades, among 22 bomb attacks in Malmö between 2008 and 2011.[24]

2013

• 9 June, Malmö, a hand grenade exploded in a garbage shed on Ramels väg, damaging several cars.[14]
• 14 September, Malmö, two people were hospitalised after a hand grenade exploded at Köpmansgatan.[14]
• 9 November, Malmö, a device exploded in the stairwell of an assembly building in Norra Grängesbergsgatan.[25]

2014

• 26 January, Malmö, a hand grenade was thrown into the window of a family's home in Seved. Thought to have been thrown by the assailants into a mistaken apartment, the family of three were said by police to have likely survived only because the father managed to close the bedroom door in time.[14]
• 15 April, Malmö, a grenade exploded outside a restaurant in Adelgatan.[14]
• 6 May, Malmö, one man was severely injured after a grenade was thrown into his apartment on Estlandsgatan. The grenade was thought by police to have been thrown into a mistaken apartment by the assailants.[14]
• 19 May, Malmö, a grenade exploded in Seved damaging eight cars and several buildings.[14

Every incident? Nobody got time for that. But these folks do. Just the last 72 hours. Includes deaths too.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours
 

Interesting. 11 pages of incidents of gun violence in the US, in just the last 72 hours - October 15 - 17, 2018. 11 pages, compared to one (or, if you use a larger type face, two) of grenade violence in Sweden in the past 20 years. 

Halifax2TheMax

oftenreading said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJPOWER said:

As above, two deaths. Two. 

Maybe, but since people here like to post every incident of gun violence, here is some recent incidents of grenade violence in Sweden:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

2002-2012

• Four hand grenades exploded under cars in Gothenburg between 2002 and 2006 (one in 2002 and in 2004, and two in 2006). The attacks were linked to a local Bandidos group that was founded and led by Mehdi Seyyed.[22] Seyyed was sentenced to nine years in prison for the two attacks in 2006.[23]
• Two explosive attacks or attempts (one in 2011, one in 2008), were reported to be as a result of hand grenades, among 22 bomb attacks in Malmö between 2008 and 2011.[24]

2013

• 9 June, Malmö, a hand grenade exploded in a garbage shed on Ramels väg, damaging several cars.[14]
• 14 September, Malmö, two people were hospitalised after a hand grenade exploded at Köpmansgatan.[14]
• 9 November, Malmö, a device exploded in the stairwell of an assembly building in Norra Grängesbergsgatan.[25]

2014

• 26 January, Malmö, a hand grenade was thrown into the window of a family's home in Seved. Thought to have been thrown by the assailants into a mistaken apartment, the family of three were said by police to have likely survived only because the father managed to close the bedroom door in time.[14]
• 15 April, Malmö, a grenade exploded outside a restaurant in Adelgatan.[14]
• 6 May, Malmö, one man was severely injured after a grenade was thrown into his apartment on Estlandsgatan. The grenade was thought by police to have been thrown into a mistaken apartment by the assailants.[14]
• 19 May, Malmö, a grenade exploded in Seved damaging eight cars and several buildings.[14

Every incident? Nobody got time for that. But these folks do. Just the last 72 hours. Includes deaths too.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours
 

Interesting. 11 pages of incidents of gun violence in the US, in just the last 72 hours - October 15 - 17, 2018. 11 pages, compared to one (or, if you use a larger type face, two) of grenade violence in Sweden in the past 20 years. 

And every gun owner was “responsible” until they weren’t and every gun began its life as a “legal” firearm. Woot! USA USA USA We’re number one, we’re number one, we’re number one! And we wish we had grenades like Sweden does. Fishing be a whole lot easier, yuck yuck, woot.

rustneversleeps

Jason P said:

mickeyrat said:

Jason P said:

Smart move by the guy with the whitest name ever bestowed upon a white dude going with the latino nickname in Texas.

think he got that in grade school.

I'm sure he did.  And now is using it to his political advantage.  As I said, smart.  Because if I'm latino and I see a sign that say Beto I would associate with it.  Versus Robert O'Rourke which conjures up an image of the old white guy that trained Rocky in the first few movies.

thats Mickey Goldmill

Halifax2TheMax

@PJPOWER are you afraid of the “red menance? That’s what I see on the Boogerman’s website.So true. Afraid. Scared. Socialist communist hordes.

BOO!

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

There are people that are anti-abortion and for sex education and access to birth control, etc.

Excellent, good thing they have the option to not get an abortion if they still accidentally get pregnant.

Using this same standard...if you are for gun control...good thing you don't have to buy a gun.  If you are for providing food to the poor...good thing you can send them your paycheck.  Such a stupid, ignorant bullshit talking point remark.

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

There are people that are anti-abortion and for sex education and access to birth control, etc.

Excellent, good thing they have the option to not get an abortion if they still accidentally get pregnant.

Using this same standard...if you are for gun control...good thing you don't have to buy a gun.  If you are for providing food to the poor...good thing you can send them your paycheck.  Such a stupid, ignorant bullshit talking point remark.

I don't see the same standard here...

cincybearcat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

There are people that are anti-abortion and for sex education and access to birth control, etc.

Excellent, good thing they have the option to not get an abortion if they still accidentally get pregnant.

Using this same standard...if you are for gun control...good thing you don't have to buy a gun.  If you are for providing food to the poor...good thing you can send them your paycheck.  Such a stupid, ignorant bullshit talking point remark.

I don't see the same standard here...

I'm shocked.