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mickeyrat

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Bentleyspop

For those of us who were in DC, Shanksville, NYC and its environs. For those of us who felt it, heard it, saw it, smelled it. For those who lost loved ones that day. It's a completely different set of feelings and emotions from those who were hundreds and thousands  of miles away and only saw it on tv.
Not better or worse just different.

For those who blame America for what happened F.U
For those who blame Americans F.U.
For those who blame the Jews/Israel F.U.
For those who say it was the U.S. govt. F.U.
And for those who claim it didn't happen you get the biggest F.U.

oftenreading

Bentleyspop said:

For those of us who were in DC, Shanksville, NYC and its environs. For those of us who felt it, heard it, saw it, smelled it. For those who lost loved ones that day. It's a completely different set of feelings and emotions from those who were hundreds and thousands  of miles away and only saw it on tv.
Not better or worse just different.

For those who blame America for what happened F.U
For those who blame Americans F.U.
For those who blame the Jews/Israel F.U.
For those who say it was the U.S. govt. F.U.
And for those who claim it didn't happen you get the biggest F.U.

There is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist around my parts who writes all sorts of bizarre comments on the sidewalks and bike paths in coloured chalk on 9/11 every year. I cycled over some of those yesterday and caught a bit of the dreck he was broadcasting from a speaker. I did not see anyone engaging with him, just him standing alone. My own feeling is that it’s best to just ignore him, since arguing just fuels the fire. 

tbergs

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

Why the ignore function is so nice...never saw the posts...

mcgruff10

Bentleyspop said:

For those of us who were in DC, Shanksville, NYC and its environs. For those of us who felt it, heard it, saw it, smelled it. For those who lost loved ones that day. It's a completely different set of feelings and emotions from those who were hundreds and thousands  of miles away and only saw it on tv.
Not better or worse just different.

For those who blame America for what happened F.U
For those who blame Americans F.U.
For those who blame the Jews/Israel F.U.
For those who say it was the U.S. govt. F.U.
And for those who claim it didn't happen you get the biggest F.U.

well said.

F Me In The Brain

tbergs said:

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

Why the ignore function is so nice...never saw the posts...

I do still see it when he is quoted...  Need to learn to just see who posts and not read.

cincybearcat

I saw the post. I have nothing nice to say and would prefer to retain my posting privileges ... for a while anyhow. 

Smellyman

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

This kinda makes me angry.  on 9/11. 10,000 innocents died.  after that still countless  others have suffered and died.  

but after 9/11 1,000,000 lost their lives.  were they all terrorists?  You're ok with that?  US and allies bombed the shit out of innocent people.

so much I could say, but too many beers. 

@pjhawks want to call me names?  pm me call me anything you want.  I can take it

HughFreakingDillon

Smellyman said:

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

This kinda makes me angry.  on 9/11. 10,000 innocents died.  after that still countless  others have suffered and died.  

but after 9/11 1,000,000 lost their lives.  were they all terrorists?  You're ok with that?  US and allies bombed the shit out of innocent people.

so much I could say, but too many beers. 

@pjhawks want to call me names?  pm me call me anything you want.  I can take it

they are separate issues that need to be dealt with in different threads. we're all outraged at the iraq war and the repercussions from that. but that wasn't the fault of the victims of 9/11. this thread is about them. not about the US governments reaction/excuses for said reaction. come on. 

lastexitlondon

There  are no winners  only losers

jeffbr

Smellyman said:

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

This kinda makes me angry.  on 9/11. 10,000 innocents died.  after that still countless  others have suffered and died.  

but after 9/11 1,000,000 lost their lives.  were they all terrorists?  You're ok with that?  US and allies bombed the shit out of innocent people.

so much I could say, but too many beers. 

@pjhawks want to call me names?  pm me call me anything you want.  I can take it

Take it somewhere else. and maybe lay off the drinking and posting schtick, at least in this thread. It isn't becoming.

tbergs

Next up we'll lay in to the parents of the kids being slaughtered in mass shootings because they are Americans and all have blood on their hands. Might as well just blow up the fucking world.

F Me In The Brain

Smellyman said:

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

This kinda makes me angry.  on 9/11. 10,000 innocents died.  after that still countless  others have suffered and died.  

but after 9/11 1,000,000 lost their lives.  were they all terrorists?  You're ok with that?  US and allies bombed the shit out of innocent people.

so much I could say, but too many beers. 

@pjhawks want to call me names?  pm me call me anything you want.  I can take it

Pretty much what others said.

Nobody argued for the wars or for others to lose their lives.  This is a thread to remember the thousands who died on 9-11.

 

Smellyman

Never forget

The Juggler

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

mcgruff10 said:

Just taught 9/11 to my first period class and even though it has been 18 years it doesn't get any easier.   I can not watch the towers coming down, I have to look away.

there is no way I could teach about that day. just don't think i could get the words out right or keep from crying if i tried.  it's so strange to me that it's already been 18 years.  freshmen in college are the last ones born before this happened. it is kind of crazy that there are kids in high school who weren't even born when this happened.  time has gone by so damn fast

Last year at this time, I asked the girl who buses tables at wing night if she knew anything about 9/11.  She said "Not really, they taught us a little bit about it in school every year on the day, but that was it."  It's crazy knowing there are functioning high school & college kids who have little to no clue about this day, let alone it's significance.

Rest in Peace to all those fallen.  A big thank you to Jon Stewart for his emotional speech regarding the Victim's Compensation Fund.  Thank you to Congress for listening and extending the program. We still need to do better.

Not to sound crass but did you have any emotional attachment to Iwo Jima?  D-Day? The Enola Gay?

It's the same for these kids now as they have no emotional attachment.  

I never thought that our generation would have a moment like that.  I'm hoping future generations don't have to have one either.

Oh I know.  Mine would have been the Vietman War, I guess (born in '77).  I was just thinking it's crazy that it's already been that long ago that we've gotten to grown kids/young adults not knowing about it.  It just doesn't seem that long ago.

This puts the whole "I can't believe how long ago it's been" thing in perspective for me. I was born in 78. So, yeah, 9/11 now is kind of like what Vietnam was to us when we were in high school give or take a few years, I guess. Vietnam always seemed like something from a million years ago so I guess I can understand how kids don't have a connection or know much about 9/11 nowadays. The difference is, obviously, that 9/11 happened here and stuff but still...

I always like to think of things in terms of this for other things too. Like tv shows. Seinfeld is over 30 years old at this point. So a high school kid watching a Seinfeld rerun today would be the same thing as me watching an I Love Lucy rerun in the mid 90's. That shit blows my mind for some reason.

Fuck. Getting old sucks. 

Anyway---RIP to all those who died on 9/11. Again......I still cannot believe it's been this long. Crazy. 

hedonist

I may have posted it before, but something I remember distinctly is 9/12.  People were just...kind to each other.

Considerate.  No posturing.  Not being the usual asshole.  Humbled, hurt, together.  Race, religion, money, all that shit - no matter (for most, anyway).

Little by little things went back to "normal", but that day, locking eyes with someone - that look shared - spoke volumes.

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

Smellyman said:

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

This kinda makes me angry.  on 9/11. 10,000 innocents died.  after that still countless  others have suffered and died.  

but after 9/11 1,000,000 lost their lives.  were they all terrorists?  You're ok with that?  US and allies bombed the shit out of innocent people.

so much I could say, but too many beers. 

@pjhawks want to call me names?  pm me call me anything you want.  I can take it

they are separate issues that need to be dealt with in different threads. we're all outraged at the iraq war and the repercussions from that. but that wasn't the fault of the victims of 9/11. this thread is about them. not about the US governments reaction/excuses for said reaction. come on. 

Exactly. Plenty of other opportunities to shit on the US and the Iraq war. This isn’t one of them. Surely anyone can understand that. There aren’t enough beers in the world to make a nice normal person that big of an asshole are there?

pjhawks

Smellyman said:

F Me In The Brain said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

The truth hurts.  Navy seals could have found bin laden with minimal loss of life.  If was so damn. important to some of you, why did you not leave your cushy life and join the fight?  Likely not, but sending kids to die in a bullshit war is OK.  At least after Pearl Harbour people left their cushy jobs to join the fight, and those that could not, sacrifice in some way back home.

While the US was bombing the shit out of 2 countries most of you were leading nice comfortable lives.  None of you's sacrificed much is my bet.  But hey, at least 1 a year you remember...

Classless post.  This is as clean as I can make my point to you without getting banned

Just what we should expect from this person.  

Not a good person - this is yet another thread where this is made obvious.

This kinda makes me angry.  on 9/11. 10,000 innocents died.  after that still countless  others have suffered and died.  

but after 9/11 1,000,000 lost their lives.  were they all terrorists?  You're ok with that?  US and allies bombed the shit out of innocent people.

so much I could say, but too many beers. 

@pjhawks want to call me names?  pm me call me anything you want.  I can take it

nah, i just want people to understand thread integrity. i don't disparage your thoughts, just the placement of said thoughts

Renfield

Bentleyspop said:

For those of us who were in DC, Shanksville, NYC and its environs. For those of us who felt it, heard it, saw it, smelled it. For those who lost loved ones that day. It's a completely different set of feelings and emotions from those who were hundreds and thousands  of miles away and only saw it on tv.
Not better or worse just different.

For those who blame America for what happened F.U
For those who blame Americans F.U.
For those who blame the Jews/Israel F.U.
For those who say it was the U.S. govt. F.U.
And for those who claim it didn't happen you get the biggest F.U.

That smell. I wish I had not been told what it was- it lasted for weeks.

brianlux

Smellyman said:

brianlux said:

Bay of Pigs

JFK

RFK

MLK

Vietnam

Love Canal

Space Shuttle Challenger

Exxon Valdez

Chernobyl

Bhopal

Kuwaiti Oil Fires

Irag

Afghanistan

9/11

Deepwater Horizon

Fukushima

I remember them all, each as horrible in their own way.

November 8, 2016

Yes, one of the worst!