Why does Pearl Jam totally disregard Binaural?

foodboy

they played all of binaural in toronto 16. it was amazing . probably never going to happen again.

mrussel1

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

Yes....

That's crazy talk.. I think Baba is a blast every time.  

Gern Blansten

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

Yes....

That's crazy talk.. I think Baba is a blast every time.  

I'm done with Baba, Alive, Evenflow, RITFW, Yellow Led....

mcgruff10

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

Yes....

That's crazy talk.. I think Baba is a blast every time.  

Baba is one of their best songs live.  No way can they drop it. 

Brisk.

2016 was 3.8%
2015 was 1.3% 
2014 was 2.3%
2013 was 1.9%
2012 was 1.5%
2011 was 1.8% - Into the Wild songs were 2.3%!!!
2010 was 2.6% - Lost Dogs was 5.5%
2009 was 3.5% - It actually beat another record Riot Act (2.9%)

rummy

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

Yes. Yes I would - especially if it meant getting all PJ orginals during a given show. When I made my post, I knew I'd get some (deserved?) flack for making such a blanket statement. However, let me add a few items:

Baba is an AMAZING tune. It's probably my favourite PJ cover - in the top 3 for sure.

I've attended eight shows, seen Baba three times, enjoyed all three, but would like something else next time around - IF GIVEN THE CHOICE, which will never happen.

Swallowed Whole is relatively low on my personal "list" and I don't think it would work well at all during an encore - especially near the end of the show.

I was thinking more along the lines of Binaural tunes (thread title) or Riot Act (mentioned a lot in this thread).

Yes, I'd rather hear LBC than Baba next time around. 

I'm in the camp where I never want to hear RITFW again - if given the choice, of course, which will never happen.

mrussel1

rummy said:

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

Yes. Yes I would. When I made my post, I knew I'd get some (deserved?) flack for making such a blanket statement. However, let me add a few items:

Baba is an AMAZING tune - it's probably my favourite PJ cover - in the top 3 for sure.

I've attended eight shows, seen Baba three times, enjoyed all three, but would like something else next time around - IF GIVEN THE CHOICE, which will never happen.

Swallowed Whole is relatively low on my personal "list" and I don't think it would work well at all during an encore - especially near the end of the show.

I was thinking more along the lines of Binaural tunes (thread title) or Riot Act (mentioned a lot in this thread).

Yes, I'd rather hear LBC than Baba next time around. 

I'd rather hear LBC 6x in a row than Baba!  But there are plenty of songs from PJ that are below Fuckin' Up, Crown of Thorns, and maybe a few others.  I do agree with Gern that they need to change up how/what they do on encores.  That's grown stale.  

rummy

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

Yes....

That's crazy talk.. I think Baba is a blast every time.  

I'm done with Baba, Alive, Evenflow, RITFW, Yellow Led....

Even Flow and Alive (and Porch) just need to be rotated more - especially during two-night gigs. No need for them to be played both N1 and N2.

Gern Blansten

I love seeing them live and I will likely continue to do so as much as possible.  But it does get to a point where even though the setlist is "different" every night it really is just the same 50 songs played on shuffle.  They have a large catalog that they are leaving unheard.

As mentioned....I saw the two Chicago and two Boston shows and (except for Taillights Fade and maybe another cover) I only heard one song live (Tremor Christ) that I had not heard live before.  That just seems odd.

cutz

mcgruff10 said:

cwja said:

rummy said:

I know mega-fans at the Binaural show in Toronto 2016 would disagree but, trying to speak objectively, the crowd was pretty subdued during its performance. The energy picked up afterwards.

Pretty subdued is an understatement. Personally I’d choose a great set over a great crowd though. Especially in North America. If you’re looking to pay money to watch a crowd, go to Argentina.

Disagree completely.  You need a balance. Newark 2010 has a fantastic set list but the crowd absolutely sucked which equated to a pretty bad show. Hartford 2010 wasn’t the greatest setlist but my god the crowd!  That show is still one of my favorites.  

That Newark show in 2010 was really good because the band played  great. Despite the crowd. GREAT setlist & Great playing by the band equals a great show for me. I was at that Hartford show too, and i agree with you there. FUN show. 

So many good songs on Binnaural . I just don't understand why this album gets ignored. How can they play more covers then they do Binaural? Makes no sense to me.

mrussel1

Gern Blansten said:

I love seeing them live and I will likely continue to do so as much as possible.  But it does get to a point where even though the setlist is "different" every night it really is just the same 50 songs played on shuffle.  They have a large catalog that they are leaving unheard.

As mentioned....I saw the two Chicago and two Boston shows and (except for Taillights Fade and maybe another cover) I only heard one song live (Tremor Christ) that I had not heard live before.  That just seems odd.

Fatal was the new one for me on the tour.. that was really a surprise considering Missoula was a festival set.  I think that was my only new one from four shows.  

RS65573

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I love seeing them live and I will likely continue to do so as much as possible.  But it does get to a point where even though the setlist is "different" every night it really is just the same 50 songs played on shuffle.  They have a large catalog that they are leaving unheard.

As mentioned....I saw the two Chicago and two Boston shows and (except for Taillights Fade and maybe another cover) I only heard one song live (Tremor Christ) that I had not heard live before.  That just seems odd.

Fatal was the new one for me on the tour.. that was really a surprise considering Missoula was a festival set.  I think that was my only new one from four shows.  

Arms Aloft for me....and of course Evil Little Goat in 3 shows.

mrussel1

RS65573 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I love seeing them live and I will likely continue to do so as much as possible.  But it does get to a point where even though the setlist is "different" every night it really is just the same 50 songs played on shuffle.  They have a large catalog that they are leaving unheard.

As mentioned....I saw the two Chicago and two Boston shows and (except for Taillights Fade and maybe another cover) I only heard one song live (Tremor Christ) that I had not heard live before.  That just seems odd.

Fatal was the new one for me on the tour.. that was really a surprise considering Missoula was a festival set.  I think that was my only new one from four shows.  

Arms Aloft for me....and of course Evil Little Goat in 3 shows.

Well if we're counting covers, then I have to throw in Missing and We're Going to be Friends... but I wasn't counting them.  So if you got Arms Aloft, then you got Fatal.  And if that's not your first Fatal, then you are a lucky sombitch.  

2-feign-reluctance

I mean, NAIS and Help, Help played at Seattle #1. Not sure they are completely disregarding those records. They also played NAIS after an uplifting Jack White cover. Theories out the window. They play what they want to play and outside of Ten and lots of covers, don't lean too heavily on other records.

VanEyck

bootlegger10 said:

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

I don't really ever want to hear Swallowed Whole at a concert. 

ha!

B-Girl

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

rummy said:

aurelgugus said:

I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.

I agree. No matter what, a PJ original always beats a cover.

You'd rather hear Swallowed Whole over Baba at the encore?

Yes....

That's crazy talk.. I think Baba is a blast every time.  

I'm done with Baba, Alive, Evenflow, RITFW, Yellow Led....

Me too

lastexitlondon

I know  it's always hard when you want to see special or certain songs but I have found as long as I'm in a good spot with my friend s
I love all songs....apart from just breathe and  SBM  just unacceptable gig songs. 

Jdgoldsmith21

The European tour seemingly had a lot more songs.  In particular I noticed that almost all of Riot Act was performed throughout the tour, God’s dice, man of the hour, etc.  I think the American leg just wasn’t as fruitful as it could have been in terms of song selection. I went to Wrigley 1 and Fenway 2-loved both shows but W1 blew F2 out of the water in terms of setlist.

mcgruff10

Jdgoldsmith21 said:

The European tour seemingly had a lot more songs.  In particular I noticed that almost all of Riot Act was performed throughout the tour, God’s dice, man of the hour, etc.  I think the American leg just wasn’t as fruitful as it could have been in terms of song selection. I went to Wrigley 1 and Fenway 2-loved both shows but W1 blew F2 out of the water in terms of setlist.

15 European shows compared to 7 us shows. Bigger sample in Europe. 

my2hands

Been saying this for a few years...they lean WAY too heavily on songs written 1998 or earlier... 90% of their live shows are now songs that are over 20 years old 

They've become a nostalgia act, and I'm considering retiring from the live scene unless it's very local