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    PJWGIIIPJWGIII Chicago, IL Posts: 806
    Oh my gosh Breakerfall as an opener....

    My scream with Eddie to kick that off would probably be toxic to the eardrum. WOW.
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,486
    my2hands said:
    Been saying this for a few years...they lean WAY too heavily on songs written 1998 or earlier... 90% of their live shows are now songs that are over 20 years old 

    They've become a nostalgia act, and I'm considering retiring from the live scene unless it's very local 



    Very interesting. It does feel a bit like that to me now. Just trying to please the crowd. Maybe the baseball stadiums jading us.a bit as in my eyes these are festival shows. Europe arenas did get an alright mix of songs. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Brisk. said:
    my2hands said:
    Been saying this for a few years...they lean WAY too heavily on songs written 1998 or earlier... 90% of their live shows are now songs that are over 20 years old 

    They've become a nostalgia act, and I'm considering retiring from the live scene unless it's very local 



    Very interesting. It does feel a bit like that to me now. Just trying to please the crowd. Maybe the baseball stadiums jading us.a bit as in my eyes these are festival shows. Europe arenas did get an alright mix of songs. 
    Good point...I remember watching the European setlists and thinking they were mixing it up a lot more. 
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    treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,808
    Its my favorite album and then Riotact and Nocode


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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,960
    trees said:
    Its my favorite album and then Riotact and Nocode
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    Falling DownFalling Down Posts: 730
    I remember Saratoga 00 when they started with Breakerfall (then Whipping, STBC and Hall Hail). Great way to start. 

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    Toronto 03, 06, 11
    Ottawa 05, 11
    Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Falling DownFalling Down Posts: 730
    Sad, Fatal and Hitchhiker could also have been on Binaural... 

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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,486
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    wrroooooooooooooooooooong
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
      its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    Brisk. said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    wrroooooooooooooooooooong
    Lets be real here. It’s a good album and it has definitely grown on me but it is far from a masterpiece. If it was that good they would play it more and the masses would have bought into the album. Tickets in 2000 were very easy to get, 98/96/95, not so much. 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    dimitrispearljam said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
      its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt
      I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour. ;)
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,960
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    Jesus man. We are on very different  pages here. I'm with dimi and brisk  here. Nothing at all wrong with evacuation. I love it and most of the songs you dislike
     Polar opposites here
     We only agree on Italian wives and food  =)
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    lastexitlondon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    Jesus man. We are on very different  pages here. I'm with dimi and brisk  here. Nothing at all wrong with evacuation. I love it and most of the songs you dislike
     Polar opposites here
     We only agree on Italian wives and food  =)
    Lol. What we agree on are two of the most important things in life!  But evacuation is still a shitty song, one of their worst. If they played it live again I bet you four people out of 20,000 would be pumped about it. You, brisk , Dimi and some drunk evenbro lol. 
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
      its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt
      I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour. ;)
    this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,960
    Man this band can really separate people and bring us all together that in it's self is amazing.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    edited September 2018
    dimitrispearljam said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
      its a masterpiece when this song has the best druming of matt
      I don’t care what type of drumming there is it is still a crappy song.  There wasn’t too much crowd energy when they played it in 2000. I d ask your personal opinion on that but only one of us saw them that tour. ;)
    this song has the best drumming of matt,,enough said
    What did you think of Matt s drumming of this song in 03? Wait a second, you didn’t see them that tour either huh? ;)   I ll give you a first hand account: it still wasn’t good live. If it was they’d play it more often. 
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    Falling Down said:
    Sad, Fatal and Hitchhiker could also have been on Binaural... 
    yes, yes, aaaaaand....not so much! ;-)
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    rummy said:
    Falling Down said:
    Sad, Fatal and Hitchhiker could also have been on Binaural... 
    yes, yes, aaaaaand....not so much! ;-)
    Sad and fatal are awesome. Hitchhiker?  Terrible. 
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,960
    I like all 3
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    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    lastexitlondon said:
    I like all 3
    They have played hitcherhiker one time total.  There is a reason for this. 
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    mcgruff10 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    Jesus man. We are on very different  pages here. I'm with dimi and brisk  here. Nothing at all wrong with evacuation. I love it and most of the songs you dislike
     Polar opposites here
     We only agree on Italian wives and food  =)
    Lol. What we agree on are two of the most important things in life!  But evacuation is still a shitty song, one of their worst. If they played it live again I bet you four people out of 20,000 would be pumped about it. You, brisk , Dimi and some drunk evenbro lol. 
    Hey now I’m not gonna sit here and be reduced to “some drunk evenbro” :lol:
    I’m still waiting to hear it live. They stared to play it at DC 08 but had some technical issues and had to evacuate it.
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    B-GirlB-Girl Posts: 105
    mcgruff10 said:
    Brisk. said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    wrroooooooooooooooooooong
    Lets be real here. It’s a good album and it has definitely grown on me but it is far from a masterpiece. If it was that good they would play it more and the masses would have bought into the album. Tickets in 2000 were very easy to get, 98/96/95, not so much. 
    The masses have shit taste.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    B-Girl said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Brisk. said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    wrroooooooooooooooooooong
    Lets be real here. It’s a good album and it has definitely grown on me but it is far from a masterpiece. If it was that good they would play it more and the masses would have bought into the album. Tickets in 2000 were very easy to get, 98/96/95, not so much. 
    The masses have shit taste.
    So ten and vs are the two worst pj albums?
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    B-GirlB-Girl Posts: 105
    mcgruff10 said:
    B-Girl said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Brisk. said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    its sad they dont play more of binaural..its a masterpiece...
    It is impossible to be a masterpiece when evacuation is on it. 
    wrroooooooooooooooooooong
    Lets be real here. It’s a good album and it has definitely grown on me but it is far from a masterpiece. If it was that good they would play it more and the masses would have bought into the album. Tickets in 2000 were very easy to get, 98/96/95, not so much. 
    The masses have shit taste.
    So ten and vs are the two worst pj albums?
    Not worst, not best....somewhere in the middle, for me anyway.
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    B-GirlB-Girl Posts: 105
    .....and Lightning Bolt is their worst album by far
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    B-Girl said:
    .....and Lightning Bolt is their worst album by far
    LOl. To each their own. Binaural was the first time I was ever disappointed in a pj album (along with literally everyone one of my friends who had followed pj since ten). The 2000 tour was kind of flat.  Denmark had something to do with it and anything post yield tour was sure to be a let down. Riot act was an even bigger disappointment for many of us.  Self titled was a nice come back but man oh man, I was not a huge fan of albums 6-7.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mcgruff10 said:
    B-Girl said:
    .....and Lightning Bolt is their worst album by far
    LOl. To each their own. Binaural was the first time I was ever disappointed in a pj album (along with literally everyone one of my friends who had followed pj since ten). The 2000 tour was kind of flat.  Denmark had something to do with it and anything post yield tour was sure to be a let down. Riot act was an even bigger disappointment for many of us.  Self titled was a nice come back but man oh man, I was not a huge fan of albums 6-7.  
    I think Binaural is uneven,  but I'm a big fan of Riot Act. Not every song,  but I love several of them. 
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    edited September 2018
    It took me about 10 years to fully appreciate Binaural. I think it's a very good record...not as good as the five before it, mind you, but still very good.
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