Why does Pearl Jam totally disregard Binaural?

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,298
    my2hands said:
    Been saying this for a few years...they lean WAY too heavily on songs written 1998 or earlier... 90% of their live shows are now songs that are over 20 years old 

    They've become a nostalgia act, and I'm considering retiring from the live scene unless it's very local 


    That might be where I'm at...definitely love that they still have a different setlist each night but it's really like listening to about 50 songs on shuffle.  Too many listens and you get tired of it.
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    my2hands said:
    Been saying this for a few years...they lean WAY too heavily on songs written 1998 or earlier... 90% of their live shows are now songs that are over 20 years old 

    They've become a nostalgia act, and I'm considering retiring from the live scene unless it's very local 
    Given the bashing of Backspacer and Lightning Bolt around here (I try not to bash but generally nod my head in agreement), the songs from at least 12 years ago, anyway, are their bread and butter.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    Pearl Jam tours are my way of seeing the world and seeing friends.   If I am with my friends at a show I will have a great time always.  If I go to a show by myself or our seats aren’t all together, than one or two shows a tour would be enough for me, and I would probably leave after the first major hit is played in the last encore.

  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Yo if I'm there....I ride the wave where it takes me.  They can play whatever they want.
    Stop looking at your phone.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • gems_n_rhinestones
    gems_n_rhinestones Harrisburg, PA Posts: 382
    IMO while I love quite a few songs from those albums, I think even people who were big PJ fans in the 90s just aren’t familiar with them. They just weren’t promoted much. And while I love say Grievance, it’s the type of song a good portion of the crowd doesn’t and it kinda takes away momentum. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    Tiki said:
    Yo if I'm there....I ride the wave where it takes me.  They can play whatever they want.
    Stop looking at your phone.


    Your opinion could change if you have seen more than 12 shows with the first one being in 2010.   Once you get into the 50's your tune could change a little, but that is the problem with going to so many shows.  Tough not to get burned out on certain tunes.

  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I wasn't ready for the live experience. 

    At 52 years old, I been on for the whole ride, just not in person.  1991 WBCN.  vs vital nocode yield All those official bootlegs. Turns out Binaural was actually my DIVORCE soundtrack. 

    Everyone has a different path, Bro.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I'm familiar with the catalog.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    Did not intend to imply that you haven’t been a fan that long.  The best part of shows for me is hearing something that I have to think about what is for a few seconds.   
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    edited September 2018
    bootlegger10 said:
    Did not intend to imply that you haven’t been a fan that long.  The best part of shows for me is hearing something that I have to think about what is for a few seconds.   
    Agreed! My wife is amazed how I can usually call out 15 songs before they are played based on the guitar tune/effect or the chord ed is playing.  He usually holds the chord a few seconds before playing it. 
    That s why I agree with you. Man I was actually pumped when I thought they were playing who you are but it turned out to be in my tree. (If that makes sense at all lol)
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    or the appearance of the guitar itself...

    That Jimmy Page double neck?  Inside Job.  Mikey actually went to the specs in AMS.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Did not intend to imply that you haven’t been a fan that long.  The best part of shows for me is hearing something that I have to think about what is for a few seconds.   
    Agreed! My wife is amazed how I can usually call out 15 songs before they are played based on the guitar tune/effect or the chord ed is playing.  He usually holds the chord a few seconds before playing it. 
    That s why I agree with you. Man I was actually pumped when I thought they were playing who you are but it turned out to be in my tree. (If that makes sense at all lol)
    I get it.  Elderly, Given to Fly, Even Flow, Sirens, etc... are all easy ones to pick out on the guitar. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    bootlegger10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Did not intend to imply that you haven’t been a fan that long.  The best part of shows for me is hearing something that I have to think about what is for a few seconds.   
    Agreed! My wife is amazed how I can usually call out 15 songs before they are played based on the guitar tune/effect or the chord ed is playing.  He usually holds the chord a few seconds before playing it. 
    That s why I agree with you. Man I was actually pumped when I thought they were playing who you are but it turned out to be in my tree. (If that makes sense at all lol)
    I get it.  Elderly, Given to Fly, Even Flow, Sirens, etc... are all easy ones to pick out on the guitar. 
    We should next to each other at a show and have a competition! Lol
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Did not intend to imply that you haven’t been a fan that long.  The best part of shows for me is hearing something that I have to think about what is for a few seconds.   
    Agreed! My wife is amazed how I can usually call out 15 songs before they are played based on the guitar tune/effect or the chord ed is playing.  He usually holds the chord a few seconds before playing it. 
    That s why I agree with you. Man I was actually pumped when I thought they were playing who you are but it turned out to be in my tree. (If that makes sense at all lol)
    I get it.  Elderly, Given to Fly, Even Flow, Sirens, etc... are all easy ones to pick out on the guitar. 
    We should next to each other at a show and have a competition! Lol

    Ha.  People around us would hhhhhaaaaattttteeee  us.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    bootlegger10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Did not intend to imply that you haven’t been a fan that long.  The best part of shows for me is hearing something that I have to think about what is for a few seconds.   
    Agreed! My wife is amazed how I can usually call out 15 songs before they are played based on the guitar tune/effect or the chord ed is playing.  He usually holds the chord a few seconds before playing it. 
    That s why I agree with you. Man I was actually pumped when I thought they were playing who you are but it turned out to be in my tree. (If that makes sense at all lol)
    I get it.  Elderly, Given to Fly, Even Flow, Sirens, etc... are all easy ones to pick out on the guitar. 
    We should next to each other at a show and have a competition! Lol

    Ha.  People around us would hhhhhaaaaattttteeee  us.
    We d either get punched or have beer thrown at us lol. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RobbyD462
    RobbyD462 Victoria BC Posts: 4,812
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  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    I also can't see the "Dark times for them" argument.  Many of their songs are from tough/dark times.  
    I don’t know if it’s an argument.  It’s fairly well documented in interviews. Mike’s sobriety, Ed’s end of marriage, Stone comments about not feeling relevant anymore, Denmark, ect. Another drummer change, although Ed’s also stated that Matt was the only possible replacement or the band was done. Just sort of trying times..... and maybe the album reminds them of that.
    i always sorta suspected they released all those 2000 bootlegs because they figured they were done after that. Just my hunch, not ever said by a band member.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,298
    Milestone said:
    I also can't see the "Dark times for them" argument.  Many of their songs are from tough/dark times.  
    I don’t know if it’s an argument.  It’s fairly well documented in interviews. Mike’s sobriety, Ed’s end of marriage, Stone comments about not feeling relevant anymore, Denmark, ect. Another drummer change, although Ed’s also stated that Matt was the only possible replacement or the band was done. Just sort of trying times..... and maybe the album reminds them of that.
    i always sorta suspected they released all those 2000 bootlegs because they figured they were done after that. Just my hunch, not ever said by a band member.
    Yet they still play lbc occasionally 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    Gern Blansten said:
    Milestone said:
    I also can't see the "Dark times for them" argument.  Many of their songs are from tough/dark times.  
    I don’t know if it’s an argument.  It’s fairly well documented in interviews. Mike’s sobriety, Ed’s end of marriage, Stone comments about not feeling relevant anymore, Denmark, ect. Another drummer change, although Ed’s also stated that Matt was the only possible replacement or the band was done. Just sort of trying times..... and maybe the album reminds them of that.
    i always sorta suspected they released all those 2000 bootlegs because they figured they were done after that. Just my hunch, not ever said by a band member.
    Yet they still play lbc occasionally 
    Big difference, that song seems therapeutic to me. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    mcgruff10 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Did not intend to imply that you haven’t been a fan that long.  The best part of shows for me is hearing something that I have to think about what is for a few seconds.   
    Agreed! My wife is amazed how I can usually call out 15 songs before they are played based on the guitar tune/effect or the chord ed is playing.  He usually holds the chord a few seconds before playing it. 
    That s why I agree with you. Man I was actually pumped when I thought they were playing who you are but it turned out to be in my tree. (If that makes sense at all lol)
    I was able to pick out Release at Seattle one with one guitar pluck a few moments before the song began. I said to the guy beside me (who bought my spare), "Is it Release? Is it? I think it is....." - and it was! I was so excited that I asked him - poor guy I just met - for a (man) hug. Made the night - both the song and the hug! ;-)

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