Options

Why does Pearl Jam totally disregard Binaural?

135678

Comments

  • Options
    Need more diversity. And yes, more Binaural.
  • Options
    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,486
    edited September 2018
    People saying its a buzz killer i don't get. They already play slow soft songs during the encore or midset and covers that people don't know. Plus there are Rockin songs on the album. 


  • Options
    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    cwja said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cwja said:
    rummy said:
    I know mega-fans at the Binaural show in Toronto 2016 would disagree but, trying to speak objectively, the crowd was pretty subdued during its performance. The energy picked up afterwards.

    Pretty subdued is an understatement. Personally I’d choose a great set over a great crowd though. Especially in North America. If you’re looking to pay money to watch a crowd, go to Argentina.
    Disagree completely.  You need a balance. Newark 2010 has a fantastic set list but the crowd absolutely sucked which equated to a pretty bad show. Hartford 2010 wasn’t the greatest setlist but my god the crowd!  That show is still one of my favorites.  

    It’s admittedly all based on personal tastes. For example, I was at the Ten and Binaural shows that year. Philly crowd was insane for the Ten show, Toronto crowd was dead for the Binaural show. I’d still take the Binaural show, sounds like you’d prefer the Ten. Just different, not better or worse, preferences.
    I was at the Binaural show with a friend who is a PJ fan but not a diehard by any means. When God's Dice came on after Breakerfall I knew what was about to happen and was pretty stoked - but for my friend, the next hour or so was a stretch of songs she didn't know or at best barely knew, and other than Grievance and maybe Insignificance none of them are fast-paced rock songs. So she was really bummed for that entire stretch. Then they played Corduroy/Once/RVM to close the set, first encore had Even Flow, Better Man and Porch and the second encore was Small Town/GTF/SOLAT/Black/Real Me/Alive/RITFW and she had the time of her life.  


    How does your friend feel about Binaural now after time to reflect? Does she enjoy it or does she not really pay it much attention?

    Just wondered. I would guess at the time she wasn't into it because she didn't know it. But after seeing PJ live, I always MUST get a copy of the show. If she did, she probably listened to it a lot, then gained a deeper appreciation for what she was there to witness.
    Having seen pj as much I have I can honestly say that I too would have hated seeing binaural being played live in its entirety.  The only three albums you can do that for is ten, vs and vitalogy imho.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Options
    I think it's my least favourite PJ album with Avocado (though that's my no means a negative as I still really like them-though not keen on the sound of Binaural) but I'd love to hear more of it live. Amsterdam 1 in 2016 gave it some good lovin but I'd love to see NAIS & DOG live. Soon Forget I thought I'd have seen at least at an Ed show or after The Donald got elected. But I like hearing tracks from as it seems the songs sound a lot sharper live and have the energy the album lacks to me. Much like seeing Can't Deny Me the first time live last night. 
    Stars are suns to other people.

    Wellington 1998
    London 2007
    Brisbane 2009
    Stockholm 2012
    Amsterdam 1 & 2 2014
    EV Dublin 2017
    Milan 2018
    Padova 2018
    Boston 2 2018
  • Options
    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,765
    There is a ton to unpack here, but I think one of the things overlooked is that they do not tour the way they did in 1998 (62 shows) 2000 (75 shows) 2003 (73 shows - not including the late 2002 Seattle shows which are very much a warm up for this whole tour)  2006 (72 shows even though only half were in the US - also doesn't include the Hawaii shows)

    1998 arguably would have been larger had they been quicker to the ceding to TicketOverlord.

    Each of those tours saw the main record they were promoting lead the way.  After which a few songs held a semi-main rotation, and so on.

    For me personally, if I went to a show and never heard Jeremy or Betterman again, I'd lose no sleep, but I get that for other fans it is a big part of their night.    So as much as I am a bring on the Binaural or what have you, as an example last nights show had a few odd flow points where the crowd just kind of fell out -  Arms Aloft (though I was happy to catch it for my first time) Can't Deny Me (again, happy to have caught it first time) and Comatose (hadn't caught that since 2006).  

    The building last night was pretty hard wired for Ten and Vs.  - I am sure that beyond the freaks (happily in this crew, not knocking it) it went over a lot of heads that they attempted the original lyrics to Immortality played at back to back 1994 Boston shows. 

    If they did an entire tour and only played tracks from Vitalogy, No Code, Yield, Binaural, whereas I'd be bonkers, I imagine a healthy portion of the crowd would leave scratching their melon.







    His eminence has yet to show. 
    http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652

  • Options
    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,763
    mcgruff10 said:
    cwja said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cwja said:
    rummy said:
    I know mega-fans at the Binaural show in Toronto 2016 would disagree but, trying to speak objectively, the crowd was pretty subdued during its performance. The energy picked up afterwards.

    Pretty subdued is an understatement. Personally I’d choose a great set over a great crowd though. Especially in North America. If you’re looking to pay money to watch a crowd, go to Argentina.
    Disagree completely.  You need a balance. Newark 2010 has a fantastic set list but the crowd absolutely sucked which equated to a pretty bad show. Hartford 2010 wasn’t the greatest setlist but my god the crowd!  That show is still one of my favorites.  

    It’s admittedly all based on personal tastes. For example, I was at the Ten and Binaural shows that year. Philly crowd was insane for the Ten show, Toronto crowd was dead for the Binaural show. I’d still take the Binaural show, sounds like you’d prefer the Ten. Just different, not better or worse, preferences.
    I was at the Binaural show with a friend who is a PJ fan but not a diehard by any means. When God's Dice came on after Breakerfall I knew what was about to happen and was pretty stoked - but for my friend, the next hour or so was a stretch of songs she didn't know or at best barely knew, and other than Grievance and maybe Insignificance none of them are fast-paced rock songs. So she was really bummed for that entire stretch. Then they played Corduroy/Once/RVM to close the set, first encore had Even Flow, Better Man and Porch and the second encore was Small Town/GTF/SOLAT/Black/Real Me/Alive/RITFW and she had the time of her life.  


    How does your friend feel about Binaural now after time to reflect? Does she enjoy it or does she not really pay it much attention?

    Just wondered. I would guess at the time she wasn't into it because she didn't know it. But after seeing PJ live, I always MUST get a copy of the show. If she did, she probably listened to it a lot, then gained a deeper appreciation for what she was there to witness.
    Having seen pj as much I have I can honestly say that I too would have hated seeing binaural being played live in its entirety.  The only three albums you can do that for is ten, vs and vitalogy imho.  
    I definitely understand any casual fan not enjoying it so much. I'm sure they would feel pretty lost out there during such a show. The only full album show I went to was the Yield show (missed the No Code when I lost the 10C lottery).

    It was a neat experience. I wouldn't want a full album show every time though. The 1st 3 albums would absolutely work the best for it, I agree. But, I love me some Binural and Avocado. With so many of these songs being MIA, I would really enjoy the full album show.

    I just wondered what the casual fan may have thought of the experience after having an opportunity to see it live, listen to the boot (if she did) and reflect on it. Wonder if it made her enjoy the whole show and album more. Did it help her become a bigger fan? Did she resent them for filling an hour of the show with shit she didn't know? Maybe she's still a casual fan.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • Options
    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,534
    edited September 2018
    Might fall into songs that are too complicated to play. Several band members have mentioned liking the easier songs to play somewhere, sometime.
    No way....I play guitar.  None of those songs are anymore difficult to play than RVM, GTF, etc.
    I know that Mike once specifically said that NAIS at least is too hard and that is why they rarely play it, and I think it's the same deal with others. The tunes are tricky - also to do with some being tough for Eddie to sing right.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    PB11041 said:
    There is a ton to unpack here, but I think one of the things overlooked is that they do not tour the way they did in 1998 (62 shows) 2000 (75 shows) 2003 (73 shows - not including the late 2002 Seattle shows which are very much a warm up for this whole tour)  2006 (72 shows even though only half were in the US - also doesn't include the Hawaii shows)

    1998 arguably would have been larger had they been quicker to the ceding to TicketOverlord.

    Each of those tours saw the main record they were promoting lead the way.  After which a few songs held a semi-main rotation, and so on.

    For me personally, if I went to a show and never heard Jeremy or Betterman again, I'd lose no sleep, but I get that for other fans it is a big part of their night.    So as much as I am a bring on the Binaural or what have you, as an example last nights show had a few odd flow points where the crowd just kind of fell out -  Arms Aloft (though I was happy to catch it for my first time) Can't Deny Me (again, happy to have caught it first time) and Comatose (hadn't caught that since 2006).  

    The building last night was pretty hard wired for Ten and Vs.  - I am sure that beyond the freaks (happily in this crew, not knocking it) it went over a lot of heads that they attempted the original lyrics to Immortality played at back to back 1994 Boston shows. 

    If they did an entire tour and only played tracks from Vitalogy, No Code, Yield, Binaural, whereas I'd be bonkers, I imagine a healthy portion of the crowd would leave scratching their melon.







    Wait, they attempted to play the original pre-Cobain death lyrics last night??
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    I can see why Binaural could bring a crowd down if they just spent time whipping them into a frenzy, but that's where the first Encore works wonders.  Thin Air at Seattle was lovely.  And i'm surprise that no one here has mentioned what a beautiful song Light Years is.  They pull out the green and yellow lights during the song and it is fantastic, and most definitely not a buzz kill.  I have seen it a handful of times post 2000 and it makes my night.  
  • Options
    I followed them around on both the Binaural and Riot Act tours, so I've seen each album in full.  But I just don't see them playing more than 1-2 songs from each during a show, especially in a stadium. If they ever (which I'm sure won't happen) do a fanclub type only run of shows, then I'm sure they'd pull that stuff out. But these stadium shows with 40K people, they'd lose 3/4 of the crowd.  The 2 from Riot Act last night were probably the most fan friendly (maybe Can't Keep to open) songs they could play in a stadium.  From Binaural, maybe Of the Girl to open, then Insignificance or Grievance and that's about it.  

    I cringed when they started Arms Aloft last night because the place was absolutely buzzing with the GTF, Animal, Save You start.  I was in a fanclub section, and barely anybody knew AA.  
    Barely anyone knew it? Or barely anyone liked it? As was the case at PJ20, that song just doesn’t work that early in the show...if at all. 

    That aside, this was probably my favorite PJ show in years. Just great in every way. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • Options
    EnterThanmanEnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    Might fall into songs that are too complicated to play. Several band members have mentioned liking the easier songs to play somewhere, sometime.
    No way....I play guitar.  None of those songs are anymore difficult to play than RVM, GTF, etc.
    Simple could also mean song structure. RVM is a very simple song structure, with very simple timing,  where as Grievance is not. There’s zero chance anyone in the band (aside from maybe Eddie) would struggle with the playing of any song in their catalogue, but structurally a song with odd timing or strange punctuations might just not be as fun to play.
    The member formerly known as Scratched Vinyl
  • Options
    EnterThanmanEnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    Could it also be that maybe the guys don’t like this album that much? I know Mikes said that era was a dark time for him, and I think it was Stone that said it was the moment they felt they were losing relevance. Maybe the connection the band has to the songs just  aren’t as positive as with other albums. I could obviously be way off, but just a thought. 
    The member formerly known as Scratched Vinyl
  • Options
    jefftjefft Posts: 650
    rummy said:
    I know mega-fans at the Binaural show in Toronto 2016 would disagree but, trying to speak objectively, the crowd was pretty subdued during its performance. The energy picked up afterwards.
    Totally agree.  I was there too
  • Options
    jhager79jhager79 Kitchener Ontario Posts: 234
    I've been harping this (and Riot Act) for a few years.  I don't get it.

    I went to both Chicago shows and both Boston shows and scratched exactly one song off my list of "haven't heard live" tunes.

    There are 6 Binaural songs and 7 Riot Act songs that I haven't heard live.


    I was in heaven night 1 in Toronto 2016 when we got the whole album 
    [img][/img]Kitchener2005
    Toronto 2003
    Toronto 2000
    Barrie 1998
    Toronto 1993
    London 2005

    Toronto 2006 May 9/10
    Toronto 2009
    Toronto Sept 11/12 2011
    London 2013
    Detroit 2014
    Toronto 2016 May 10/12
    Chicago 2018 N2
    "No matter how cold the winter, there's a springtime ahead"
  • Options
    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,961
    Might fall into songs that are too complicated to play. Several band members have mentioned liking the easier songs to play somewhere, sometime.
    No way....I play guitar.  None of those songs are anymore difficult to play than RVM, GTF, etc.
    Simple could also mean song structure. RVM is a very simple song structure, with very simple timing,  where as Grievance is not. There’s zero chance anyone in the band (aside from maybe Eddie) would struggle with the playing of any song in their catalogue, but structurally a song with odd timing or strange punctuations might just not be as fun to play.
    Trust me... That's not why. Practice it twice and it's done. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
  • Options
    MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,100
    edited September 2018
    Nothing As it Seems is usually reserved for when someone important to the band dies. I’ve heard Ed say something along those lines at one point. 
    Specifically played it for Jack White’s keyboard player at Detroit 2014.
    i had to imagine that the Seattle version was for Chris Cornell, although nothing was said. One of my favorite songs, especially Mike’s pedals and solo.
    Post edited by Milestone on
    11-2-2000 Portland. 12-8-2002 Seattle. 4-18-2003 Nashville. 5-30-2003 Vancouver. 10-25-2003 Bridge School. 9-2-2005 Vancouver.
    7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
    11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula.
  • Options
    MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,100
    edited September 2018
    Whoops. Double post, sorry.
    Post edited by Milestone on
    11-2-2000 Portland. 12-8-2002 Seattle. 4-18-2003 Nashville. 5-30-2003 Vancouver. 10-25-2003 Bridge School. 9-2-2005 Vancouver.
    7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
    11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula.
  • Options
    deftonesdeftones Athens, Greece Posts: 2,444
    Binaural and Ten are my favorite albums, still trying for NAIS. I hope they give it more love in the future.
    ATHENS / 30-9-2006, MANCHESTER / 20-6-2012, MANCHESTER / 21-6-2012, AMSTERDAM / 16-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 17-6-2014, AMSTERDAM / 12-6-2018, AMSTERDAM / 13-6-2018, PRAGUE / 1-7-2018, KRAKOW / 3-7-2018, BERLIN / 5-7-2018
  • Options
    Milestone said:
    Nothing As it Seems is usually reserved for when someone important to the band dies. I’ve heard Ed say something along those lines at one point. 
    Specifically played it for Jack White’s keyboard player at Detroit 2014.
    i had to imagine that the Seattle version was for Chris Cornell, although nothing was said. One of my favorite songs, especially Mike’s pedals and solo.
    Sounds more like Light Years than NOAIS to me ;)
  • Options
    This thread made me go off and play evacuation on my guitar. Thank you
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Options
    wnh1977 said:
    rummy said:
    I know mega-fans at the Binaural show in Toronto 2016 would disagree but, trying to speak objectively, the crowd was pretty subdued during its performance. The energy picked up afterwards.
    Exactly.  It's hard for me to selfishly enjoy it when 9,000 fans are waiting for a hit!
    But they d on't need to play 10 Binaural songs in order to play Binaural songs...

    I find it weird that rockers like Grievance, God's Dice and Insignificance "disappeared".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Options
    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,765
    mrussel1 said:
    PB11041 said:
    There is a ton to unpack here, but I think one of the things overlooked is that they do not tour the way they did in 1998 (62 shows) 2000 (75 shows) 2003 (73 shows - not including the late 2002 Seattle shows which are very much a warm up for this whole tour)  2006 (72 shows even though only half were in the US - also doesn't include the Hawaii shows)

    1998 arguably would have been larger had they been quicker to the ceding to TicketOverlord.

    Each of those tours saw the main record they were promoting lead the way.  After which a few songs held a semi-main rotation, and so on.

    For me personally, if I went to a show and never heard Jeremy or Betterman again, I'd lose no sleep, but I get that for other fans it is a big part of their night.    So as much as I am a bring on the Binaural or what have you, as an example last nights show had a few odd flow points where the crowd just kind of fell out -  Arms Aloft (though I was happy to catch it for my first time) Can't Deny Me (again, happy to have caught it first time) and Comatose (hadn't caught that since 2006).  

    The building last night was pretty hard wired for Ten and Vs.  - I am sure that beyond the freaks (happily in this crew, not knocking it) it went over a lot of heads that they attempted the original lyrics to Immortality played at back to back 1994 Boston shows. 

    If they did an entire tour and only played tracks from Vitalogy, No Code, Yield, Binaural, whereas I'd be bonkers, I imagine a healthy portion of the crowd would leave scratching their melon.







    Wait, they attempted to play the original pre-Cobain death lyrics last night??
    Wasn't an attempt.  Ed blended the lyrics he had used on 4.11 and 4.12 1994.  In any event those being "pre-Cobain" are sketchy.  Kurt Cobain was known deceased the time this song was played live. Whether the lyrics had nothing to do with that pre the final Vitalogy cut (which seems most likely) or just partially (because his life and mental state was clearly in the balance most of late March and early April, and everyone in that community was keenly aware of it) is really a coin flip of speculation.  It is certainly impossible to see the line - scrawl dissolved cigar box on the floor - as just a happenstance of creative writing process.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
    http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652

  • Options
    jdopjjdopj Posts: 649
    mrussel1 said:
    PB11041 said:
    There is a ton to unpack here, but I think one of the things overlooked is that they do not tour the way they did in 1998 (62 shows) 2000 (75 shows) 2003 (73 shows - not including the late 2002 Seattle shows which are very much a warm up for this whole tour)  2006 (72 shows even though only half were in the US - also doesn't include the Hawaii shows)

    1998 arguably would have been larger had they been quicker to the ceding to TicketOverlord.

    Each of those tours saw the main record they were promoting lead the way.  After which a few songs held a semi-main rotation, and so on.

    For me personally, if I went to a show and never heard Jeremy or Betterman again, I'd lose no sleep, but I get that for other fans it is a big part of their night.    So as much as I am a bring on the Binaural or what have you, as an example last nights show had a few odd flow points where the crowd just kind of fell out -  Arms Aloft (though I was happy to catch it for my first time) Can't Deny Me (again, happy to have caught it first time) and Comatose (hadn't caught that since 2006).  

    The building last night was pretty hard wired for Ten and Vs.  - I am sure that beyond the freaks (happily in this crew, not knocking it) it went over a lot of heads that they attempted the original lyrics to Immortality played at back to back 1994 Boston shows. 

    If they did an entire tour and only played tracks from Vitalogy, No Code, Yield, Binaural, whereas I'd be bonkers, I imagine a healthy portion of the crowd would leave scratching their melon.







    Wait, they attempted to play the original pre-Cobain death lyrics last night??
    Yes. He nailed it. It was awesome.

  • Options
    jdopjjdopj Posts: 649
    edited September 2018
    Out of 61 songs in Boston they played 0 Binaural songs.
    No one is expecting them to play full albums but you can’t switch out some covers for a few from Binaural?
    i don’t get the hard to sing reasoning either....Comatose, Blood, Lukin and Life Wasted were played and Ed struggles with those.

  • Options
    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    Play Rival you pussies
  • Options
    Glad to see this thread has legs. All I want is binaural so much ;)
    "So much it dont show"
  • Options
    jdopj said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PB11041 said:
    There is a ton to unpack here, but I think one of the things overlooked is that they do not tour the way they did in 1998 (62 shows) 2000 (75 shows) 2003 (73 shows - not including the late 2002 Seattle shows which are very much a warm up for this whole tour)  2006 (72 shows even though only half were in the US - also doesn't include the Hawaii shows)

    1998 arguably would have been larger had they been quicker to the ceding to TicketOverlord.

    Each of those tours saw the main record they were promoting lead the way.  After which a few songs held a semi-main rotation, and so on.

    For me personally, if I went to a show and never heard Jeremy or Betterman again, I'd lose no sleep, but I get that for other fans it is a big part of their night.    So as much as I am a bring on the Binaural or what have you, as an example last nights show had a few odd flow points where the crowd just kind of fell out -  Arms Aloft (though I was happy to catch it for my first time) Can't Deny Me (again, happy to have caught it first time) and Comatose (hadn't caught that since 2006).  

    The building last night was pretty hard wired for Ten and Vs.  - I am sure that beyond the freaks (happily in this crew, not knocking it) it went over a lot of heads that they attempted the original lyrics to Immortality played at back to back 1994 Boston shows. 

    If they did an entire tour and only played tracks from Vitalogy, No Code, Yield, Binaural, whereas I'd be bonkers, I imagine a healthy portion of the crowd would leave scratching their melon.







    Wait, they attempted to play the original pre-Cobain death lyrics last night??
    Yes. He nailed it. It was awesome.

    It truly was.  Nearly brought me to tears.  Just unbelievable.
    Boston (4/10/94), Hartford (10/2/96), Barre (8/22/98), Hartford (9/13/98), Mansfield (9/15/98 + 9/16/98), Mansfield (8/29/00 + 8/30/00), Mansfield (7/2/03 + 7/11/03), Boston (9/28/04), Hartford (5/13/06), Boston (5/24/06 + 5/25/06), Hartford (6/27/08), Mansfield (6/28/08 + 6/30/08), Philadelphia (10/31/09), Hartford (5/15/10), Worcester (10/15/13 + 10/16/13), Hartford (10/25/13), New York (5/1/16), Boston (8/5/16 + 8/7/16), Boston (9/2/18 + 9/4/18)
  • Options
    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,961
    wnh1977 said:
    rummy said:
    I know mega-fans at the Binaural show in Toronto 2016 would disagree but, trying to speak objectively, the crowd was pretty subdued during its performance. The energy picked up afterwards.
    Exactly.  It's hard for me to selfishly enjoy it when 9,000 fans are waiting for a hit!
    But they d on't need to play 10 Binaural songs in order to play Binaural songs...

    I find it weird that rockers like Grievance, God's Dice and Insignificance "disappeared".
    Exactly....I'm not asking for the whole album.  And you can't tell me that if you insert either of those three in the mix the crowd will fall asleep.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
  • Options
    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,754
    Those that think they do not play Binaural as much because they have the casual fan in mind when making the setlist I will use Binaural and swap out some songs from Fenway night 2. Thinking as a casual fan do you think this makes the show better or worse? I also added one extra song in the first encore. I would have liked to add Of the Girl and NAIS but felt that they did not fit this set imo. 

    01. Given To Fly
    02. Animal
    03. Save You
    04. Grievance (Arms Aloft)
    05. Lightning Bolt
    06. Red Mosquito 
    07. I Am Mine
    08. U
    09. Even Flow
    10. Immortality II 
    11. Insignificance (Taillights Fade)
    12. Not For You
    13. Nothingman
    14. Light Years (Can’t Deny Me) 
    15. Jeremy 
    16. Better Man 
    17. Porch 

    Encore Break

    18. Thumbing My Way
    19. Parting Ways (added song)
    20. Imagine ( I personally would change this one out but get that most fans would probably enjoy it)
    21. Crazy Mary
    22. Breakerfall (Comatose) 
    23. Go
    24. Rearviewmirror

    Encore Break Two

    25. Smile
    26. Wasted Reprise 
    27. Life Wasted
    28. Dirty Water
    29. Alive
    30. Baba O’Riley
    31. Yellow Ledbetter/Star Spangled Banner

  • Options
    aurelgugusaurelgugus France & Luxembourg Posts: 499
    I was a casual fan until 2014 as I only listened to the first three albums at the time.
    I started to appreciate songs from Binaural after seeing the band played several tracks during the 2014 European tour.
    IMO Binaural songs are definitely better than covers in a setlist for casual fans. And it’s the same for Riot Act and Avocado.
    2012 : Amsterdam 2
    2014 : Amsterdam 1&2, Milan, Berlin, Werchter
    2018 : Amsterdam 1&2, Pinkpop, London 1, Berlin, Werchter, London 2
    2020 : ?
Sign In or Register to comment.