Missoula Poster

KidAOK

I'll add something from the outside looking in (Ireland).

It is absolutely mental that a positive, encouraging movement to tackle homelessness hardly received any news traction nationally yet a simple poster from the same band is front page news.

American priorities and the constant barage of negative press over positive astounds me.

mattsavard

KidAOK said:

I'll add something from the outside looking in (Ireland).

It is absolutely mental that a positive, encouraging movement to tackle homelessness hardly received any news traction nationally yet a simple poster from the same band is front page news.

American priorities and the constant barage of negative press over positive astounds me.

Couldn’t agree more. It’s another side effect of our incredibly polarized two party system. People are being conditioned to draw sides and attack the other. Anything sensationalistic that reenforces one side vs the other gets clicks... clicks sell ads.... ads pay salaries. 

It’s insanity. Anyone thinking this system is anything but Broken is a fool, IMO. 

Go Beavers

mattsavard said:

KidAOK said:

I'll add something from the outside looking in (Ireland).

It is absolutely mental that a positive, encouraging movement to tackle homelessness hardly received any news traction nationally yet a simple poster from the same band is front page news.

American priorities and the constant barage of negative press over positive astounds me.

Couldn’t agree more. It’s another side effect of our incredibly polarized two party system. People are being conditioned to draw sides and attack the other. Anything sensationalistic that reenforces one side vs the other gets clicks... clicks sell ads.... ads pay salaries. 

It’s insanity. Anyone thinking this system is anything but Broken is a fool, IMO. 

This isn’t a both sides are the same issue. This poster thing got legs because right wing media that feeds trump’s base took it and dictated a reaction from the base. They all predictably followed suit like always. 

HesCalledDyer

KidAOK said:

I'll add something from the outside looking in (Ireland).

It is absolutely mental that a positive, encouraging movement to tackle homelessness hardly received any news traction nationally yet a simple poster from the same band is front page news.

American priorities and the constant barage of negative press over positive astounds me.

Americans love, and live for, drama.  We are a nation that looks up to, praises, and markets Kardashians, Sister Wives, Duggars, Octomoms, Teen Moms, and Apprentices.  Even in "news" media we glorify conflict, being argumentative, and lashing out. It's SAD!

tubes10s

Absolutely both sides pull the exact same nonsense to get their supporters to act and react accordingly.  

RoleModelsinBlood31

Any and everything trump makes $$. Every news story, every podcast, every book someone writes, every poster, every skit, every omarosa, Comey, whoever else’s scandal books there are out there.  This poster is art, and although Bobby may have taken down his Instagram or whatever else he had, he’s psyched that it worked like all those other things mentioned above.

not sure where I’m going with this but yeah.

Go Beavers

tubes10s said:

Absolutely both sides pull the exact same nonsense to get their supporters to act and react accordingly.  

I don’t remember the other ‘side’ referencing an musicians poster as a violent affront to past presidents and then liberals responding with equal outrage. 

tubes10s

Go Beavers said:

tubes10s said:

Absolutely both sides pull the exact same nonsense to get their supporters to act and react accordingly.  

I don’t remember the other ‘side’ referencing an musicians poster as a violent affront to past presidents and then liberals responding with equal outrage. 

hahaha.... yeah let's pretend that my comment was specifically about a poster!  the right and the left love to promote whatever shiny object that gets the biggest negative reaction against those who disagree with them.  sensationalism baby!

Ledbetterman10

HesCalledDyer said:

KidAOK said:

I'll add something from the outside looking in (Ireland).

It is absolutely mental that a positive, encouraging movement to tackle homelessness hardly received any news traction nationally yet a simple poster from the same band is front page news.

American priorities and the constant barage of negative press over positive astounds me.

Americans love, and live for, drama.  We are a nation that looks up to, praises, and markets Kardashians, Sister Wives, Duggars, Octomoms, Teen Moms, and Apprentices.  Even in "news" media we glorify conflict, being argumentative, and lashing out. It's SAD!

And this, sadly, is why Trump is the president this country deserves. Not the one it needs. But the one it deserves. 

MR242791

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Jvollman said:

Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  

Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 

There are lots of Trump voters who also voted for Obama. Many people who need to be persuaded away if you're hoping for a change in 2020. Finding new ways daily to tell them to go fuck themselves is not a step in the right direction. 

There are also lots of people who voted tRump that won't again... And many who voted 3rd party in protest that won't again 

I hope you're right.

cp3iverson

tubes10s said:

Absolutely both sides pull the exact same nonsense to get their supporters to act and react accordingly.  

Amen.  

unknown

hey guys, if anyone is willing to help me out with this poster i would really appreciate it.  my son and i

traveled to this show and he has all the posters to the shows we have been to , except was not able to get

one since they were letting people buy 5 and 10 posters at a time!  anyway, he is still crushed about it.

in most cases i would just go to ebay and purchase one for him but there is just no way i can pay those prices.

if anyone can help me get this at face or even a little above face i sure would appreciate it.  If not, i understand.

please pm me if you can help.  thanks

waupaca11

In the poster, how do we know 45 didn't die of natural causes?  I see no evidence of trauma, and the poster seems to reflect 45's body giving way to life as the eagle feeds.  Its quite beautiful.

Go Beavers

tubes10s said:

Go Beavers said:

tubes10s said:

Absolutely both sides pull the exact same nonsense to get their supporters to act and react accordingly.  

I don’t remember the other ‘side’ referencing an musicians poster as a violent affront to past presidents and then liberals responding with equal outrage. 

hahaha.... yeah let's pretend that my comment was specifically about a poster!  the right and the left love to promote whatever shiny object that gets the biggest negative reaction against those who disagree with them.  sensationalism baby!

I wasn’t pretending anything, just going with your ‘exact same nonsense’ reference. I’m not sure what you deem liberal media, but if you track that at the same time comparing it to conservative media, they aren’t the same. 

jamofpearls

I've had a chance to study this poster for a little bit now.  I wish I had a physical one in front of me, because I'm only going on (mostly) low res images.  
Here's what I'm seeing.
A post apocalyptic waste land, as the white house is in flames, the earth is scorched, skulls everywhere with a bomb right in the middle of the lawn.  I believe Trump has long been dead, looked like his last action before death was crawling towards Russian money.  I'm not seeing any direct action of violence.
I'm seeing it more as a "Rise above, please don't allow this to happen, you have to go vote!" piece.  You have "VOTE" in letters, among the clouds (maybe the smoke?), with the democratic politician ramping his lawn mower.  I'm guessing the mower is an inside joke or I'm missing some symbolism there.
The aliens could be a joke on the rhetoric on illegal aliens.
The bear could be another Russian symbol or for a bear economy.
There's the Eye of Providence (or Eye of God), which is chained down, that's turned its eye away from Washington, towards the politician above.
There's a lot more imagery that I just can't tell what they are, like the jar. 
Maybe some higher res images will come soon.
But I'm not believing it to promote violence.

PJ_Soul

I'm not sure I understand why people are relating this poster to violence. It seems to me the White House exploded - the meaning is obviously that it destroyed itself, not that it was attacked from the outside. That doesn't equate to violence IMO.
Anyway, I love the reaction to this poster, and am really enjoying how some are all offended by it - fantastic. I'm just surprised by how many people just don't really seem to get it.

BS44325

Vedd Hedd said:

BS44325 said:

westbrook36 said:

Rumors are SiriusXM may cancel PJ radio over backlash from Missoula poster..

Can I be the conservative who says that this would be so dumb. Just like it was so dumb for radio stations to ban the dixie chicks and/or Kanye. Just like it's so dumb to ban Alex Jones. Just like it's so dumb for social media to ban/shadow ban thought they don't like. Just like it's so dumb for protestors to shut down speaking events on college campuses. Enough with the suppression of speech!

Dont include Alex Jones in that group.    Its one thing to ban people who say, "I dont like this person" or "I think these policies suck".  Pearl jam, Kanye, Dixie Chicks voice their opinions.   Just like Toby Keith, Ted Nugent, Roseanne, etc voice them on the right. 

Alex Jones peddles lies that do actual harm to actual people.   He is flat out making up conspiracy theories that are damaging people, and asking people to cause actual violence. 

Sorry. I agree with you on what Alex Jones is but I don't agree with you on the response. Banning speech is ALWAYS wrong. Even Noam Chomsky agrees. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech otherwise we go down a rabbit hole into chaos. Look how easily someone can argue the poster is "hate speech". It is ludicrous. This type of response must end.

MR242791

blackhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

so keep voting tRump....see if I care

Keep being a sucker and voting for the D machine.  I am voting neither R nor D so your idea I am voting R is ludicrous.  Just trying to find blame with someone else for making their own decision.  

When you vote in a battle ground state, voting for a third party does take votes away from either R or D.  It's a two party system, that's it.  listen to PJ and vote for their choice

PJ_Soul

BS44325 said:

Vedd Hedd said:

BS44325 said:

westbrook36 said:

Rumors are SiriusXM may cancel PJ radio over backlash from Missoula poster..

Can I be the conservative who says that this would be so dumb. Just like it was so dumb for radio stations to ban the dixie chicks and/or Kanye. Just like it's so dumb to ban Alex Jones. Just like it's so dumb for social media to ban/shadow ban thought they don't like. Just like it's so dumb for protestors to shut down speaking events on college campuses. Enough with the suppression of speech!

Dont include Alex Jones in that group.    Its one thing to ban people who say, "I dont like this person" or "I think these policies suck".  Pearl jam, Kanye, Dixie Chicks voice their opinions.   Just like Toby Keith, Ted Nugent, Roseanne, etc voice them on the right. 

Alex Jones peddles lies that do actual harm to actual people.   He is flat out making up conspiracy theories that are damaging people, and asking people to cause actual violence. 

Sorry. I agree with you on what Alex Jones is but I don't agree with you on the response. Banning speech is ALWAYS wrong. Even Noam Chomsky agrees. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech otherwise we go down a rabbit hole into chaos. Look how easily someone can argue the poster is "hate speech". It is ludicrous. This type of response must end.

Banning HATE SPEECH is not wrong. Hate speech isn't protected, nor should it be. And sure, someone can argue that this poster is hate speech, but they'd be really really wrong, lol.

BS44325

RP112579 said:

Quote from Jeff in the Rolling Stone article:

“The role of artists is to make people think and feel, and the current administration has us thinking and feeling,” Ament tells Rolling Stone. “I was the sole conceptualist of this poster, and I welcome all interpretations and discourse.  Love, from the First Amendment, Jeff Ament.”

Except Jeff took the opposite stance himself when it came to Kanye. Jeff expressed disappointment in Kanye and that it would change how he felt about his music going forward. Jeff didn't celebrate Kanye's ability to make people "think and feel".