Missoula Poster

Go Beavers

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Jvollman said:

Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  

Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 

There are lots of Trump voters who also voted for Obama. Many people who need to be persuaded away if you're hoping for a change in 2020. Finding new ways daily to tell them to go fuck themselves is not a step in the right direction. 

Most Obama voters who voted for trump have already ditched him. trump support only remains with republicans and not middle of the road swing voters. If trump is still around, he has little chance of winning in 2020. 

MayDay10

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Jvollman said:

Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  

Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 

There are lots of Trump voters who also voted for Obama. Many people who need to be persuaded away if you're hoping for a change in 2020. Finding new ways daily to tell them to go fuck themselves is not a step in the right direction. 

There are also lots of people who voted tRump that won't again... And many who voted 3rd party in protest that won't again 

I have said it before... but I think if there were an election on any day since the 2016 POTUS election, Trump wouldnt come close to winning. Too many people were lulled to sleep and/or thinking it couldnt happen, or thinking it really couldnt/wouldnt be that bad... the victory was still razor thin.  

mattsavard

darwinstheory said:

mattsavard said:

Having a red hat embroidered today that says “Make America Read Again”... 

Solely as performance art / social experiment to see who is triggered into outrage without actually reading the hat. 

Ahh...so you're looking for confrontation but selling it as a social experiment. That's quite clever...or not.

How is that looking for confrontation? 

When folks yell yell at me, point to the hat. Lesson in paying attention and jumping to conclusions. Seems illogical to demand respect for opinions on a poster then attack someone for opinions expressed on a hat, no?

Perhaps this will help people learn to pay attention and/or think twice before attacking someone who they perceive, on the surface, to have differing opinions than them.. before getting to know the whole story. 

Im not too worried about physical confrontation as only insane people with no life would hit someone over a hat.... and PJ fans are good folks who treat each other with respect 

mattsavard

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Jvollman said:

Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  

Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 

There are lots of Trump voters who also voted for Obama. Many people who need to be persuaded away if you're hoping for a change in 2020. Finding new ways daily to tell them to go fuck themselves is not a step in the right direction. 

There are also lots of people who voted tRump that won't again... And many who voted 3rd party in protest that won't again 

I’ll be voting 3rd party again.. and again... until the left and right stop acting like children. Neither deserves a vote right now. I refuse to buy into the forced two party system. Those who share my sentiment are growing. 

gatorjam

helplessdancer said:

inhiding 1976 said:

A little disappointed.  The Band who “cares about there fans” should understand there is a lot of fans that don’t agree with them politically. Causing a divide between the fan base isn’t good.  I love the music, the shows etc.  going to Wrigley both nights.  Hoping for good music and not a political lecture.

i get trying not to divide people/fans but these are, imo, extreme circumstances, so NOW is definitely not a time to take a step back.
i hope ed gets the trump mask out next...

What has Eddie said in the past?  Some people may not like that fiber in their diet, but he feels that it is part of the band and they have a responsibility to voice their opinion.  To paraphrase loosely.  

pjl44

Go Beavers said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Jvollman said:

Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  

Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 

There are lots of Trump voters who also voted for Obama. Many people who need to be persuaded away if you're hoping for a change in 2020. Finding new ways daily to tell them to go fuck themselves is not a step in the right direction. 

Most Obama voters who voted for trump have already ditched him. trump support only remains with republicans and not middle of the road swing voters. If trump is still around, he has little chance of winning in 2020. 

I *think* you're probably right, but everyone thought 2016 would be a Clinton cakewalk, too.

On the other hand, I voted Libertarian in '16 and hard to see a scenario where I don't again.

unknown

so i really want that poster for my collection, is there anyone offering it online besides ebay ? does the

artist sell it on their site?  any help would be appreciated.

thanks

mattsavard

unknown said:

so i really want that poster for my collection, is there anyone offering it online besides ebay ? does the

artist sell it on their site?  any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Very good odds more will be released online shortly. They have Been doing that with many posters this year. Just keep your eyes peeled.

nicknyr15

MisterEtake2 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Jvollman said:

Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  

Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 

I have to start with the fact that I’m not a supporter of either parties. Having said that, how is your last sentence not racist? Telling people to not come because of their political beliefs? What’s the difference there? I’m honestky curious. What an odd mentality that would be 

The post isn't racist.  It's just silly.  I didn't realize a Pearl Jam show should solely be comprised of people what the exact same views as the band.  The band has a right to their views, and their fans have a right to disagree with them.  

Yes. Thank you fir clarifying my comment. I def worded it wrong. 

Gern Blansten

mattsavard said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Jvollman said:

Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  

Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 

There are lots of Trump voters who also voted for Obama. Many people who need to be persuaded away if you're hoping for a change in 2020. Finding new ways daily to tell them to go fuck themselves is not a step in the right direction. 

There are also lots of people who voted tRump that won't again... And many who voted 3rd party in protest that won't again 

I’ll be voting 3rd party again.. and again... until the left and right stop acting like children. Neither deserves a vote right now. I refuse to buy into the forced two party system. Those who share my sentiment are growing. 

you mean you'll vote republican....cause that is what the result is

Gibson

Ross Perot 2021?

mattsavard

Gern Blansten said:

you mean you'll vote republican....cause that is what the result is

No... it means I’m supporting the groundswell of Americans who aren’t represented by, nor respect the Democratic or Republican Party... and this is our channel and right to voice our beliefs.

America needs to wake up and realize we deserve better than having to choose between the lesser of two evils. The system is broken and needs to be shaken up.

If you read this thread, the Democrats have 2020 in hand after the Trump Debacle so you guys don’t need my vote... nor do you deserve it. Sorry! .

 At least we have common ground on an amazing rock band, though! 

blackhawks

Gern Blansten said:

you mean you'll vote republican....cause that is what the result is

That sounds like a you problem.  Worry about your own vote.  Who is sane enough to vote either D or R knowing the machines there are?  You really think either, with the $ they haul in from biz, etc., will represent or will follow through with anything resembling your desires?  Not this guy.  

Tremorman

eddiec said:

ME10280 said:

I know it's not a wish.  I know they love the country & it's the politics the artists are against.  I, personally, just don't like images of our monuments burning.  Nothing more.  Nothing less. 

I wouldn't live anywhere else.  Freedom of speech rules!!! 

But isn't the message of the poster that Trump is burning down the White House because of his own actions?

That's what I gathered from it.  Especially in view of the massive forest fires and the general disdain for Climate science this administration has.  The real WH obviously doesn't have a desert on the front lawn.  My first thought was that its a climate change statement.

Gern Blansten

blackhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

you mean you'll vote republican....cause that is what the result is

That sounds like a you problem.  Worry about your own vote.  Who is sane enough to vote either D or R knowing the machines there are?  You really think either, with the $ they haul in from biz, etc., will represent or will follow through with anything resembling your desires?  Not this guy.  

so keep voting tRump....see if I care

Merkin Baller

In the past I've voted 3rd party, at least in presidential elections.

For the near future though, I'll be voting democrat across the board. I hate the two party system, but I hate Trump and what he represents even more.

The behavior from this administration isn't normal or ok, and it's about fucking time everyone started acknowledging it & acting accordingly.

blackhawks

Gern Blansten said:

so keep voting tRump....see if I care

Keep being a sucker and voting for the D machine.  I am voting neither R nor D so your idea I am voting R is ludicrous.  Just trying to find blame with someone else for making their own decision.  

darwinstheory

mattsavard said:

darwinstheory said:

mattsavard said:

Having a red hat embroidered today that says “Make America Read Again”... 

Solely as performance art / social experiment to see who is triggered into outrage without actually reading the hat. 

Ahh...so you're looking for confrontation but selling it as a social experiment. That's quite clever...or not.

How is that looking for confrontation? 

When folks yell yell at me, point to the hat. Lesson in paying attention and jumping to conclusions. Seems illogical to demand respect for opinions on a poster then attack someone for opinions expressed on a hat, no?

Perhaps this will help people learn to pay attention and/or think twice before attacking someone who they perceive, on the surface, to have differing opinions than them.. before getting to know the whole story. 

Im not too worried about physical confrontation as only insane people with no life would hit someone over a hat.... and PJ fans are good folks who treat each other with respect 

I feel the difference is the poster was a statement from the band.

You are outwardly looking to "trigger" people by having a specialized hat made. Your goal is to get the negative reactions. You made no mention of wanting to also see how many MAGA folks see your hat and praise without reading it.

There is a difference, though I highly doubt we will agree. And that is all okay. Moving onward....

pjl44

blackhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

so keep voting tRump....see if I care

Keep being a sucker and voting for the D machine.  I am voting neither R nor D so your idea I am voting R is ludicrous.  Just trying to find blame with someone else for making their own decision.  

Why worry about putting up appealing candidates when they can just condescendingly sneer at people?

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MisterEtake2

mattsavard said:

Gern Blansten said:

you mean you'll vote republican....cause that is what the result is

the Democrats have 2020 in hand after the Trump Debacle so you guys don’t need my vote... nor do you deserve it. Sorry! .  

That's absolutely not true.  It happened in 2016 and can very easily happen again in 2020.