Add Merch Bundle option when buying tickets - BEAT THE FLIPPERS!

on2legs

pdalowsky said:

PJ-Cubs said:

pdalowsky said:

PJ-Cubs said:

pdalowsky said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjsteelerfan said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pdalowsky said:

 The 2009 experiment didnt work out well. Santos has, quite rightly, referenced this a few times on facebook recently. 

What didn't work out?

Not every poster was an all time classic. Example- EMEK Rome appears to be the hot poster this year. When pre-ordering, everyone wanted an EMEK Rome. Everyone expected an EMEK Rome.  And when that did not happen in 2009, it did not go over well. And the 10c voiced their opinions about that. See the English poster I posted above.  The board would explode with anger if a couple thousand people pre-ordered that  unseen. 

Sure there are a few of us that want a poster for every show we attend, but not everyone. 

This sounds fabricated, or exaggerated. 

Looked through the thread you linked - didn't see what "did not go over well". People were just talking about recieving posters or waiting for posters to arrive: http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/109745/poster-presale/p9

People get disappointed when their shows have a poster they do not like (or relieved), people would get disappointed if the poster they preorder wasn't to their liking. Ofc. But please point me to all these rabid fans that made this an impossible thing to continue?

Not frabricated at all. It came straight from santos recently. It didnt work well for them, and I presume that means there was less deman than normal. What they currently do is working very well for them, demand is increasing due to the scarcity, and that means there is a good income. IMO it would be foolish to scupper their current position by removing the limited angle

This btw hurts me as much as anyone, as I dont have a grand for a rome poster either. But that said, it doesnt mean I dont get it and understand why it is like it is. Makes a whole lot of sense

I would argue that the size of the PJ poster market has significantly increase since 2009.  The 10C would sell more posters with both a pre-sale and a limited number of posters available at the shows.

I am not sure how scarcity really helps they 10C. They don't change the price of posters based on demand.  Everything sells for $35 so why not sell more of the prints.  In the current system, the 10C is missing out on volume and the flippers/traders are benefiting from the posters being limited because they get the upside from reselling at a high price..

I wouldnt be so sure - the poster hype in 2009 was massive

The merch situtation in 2009 was nothing like it is today.  The lines did not span for hours in 2009 and most people were not buying 2 posters to flip or for "trade bait".

BK's Red Mosquito poster from the SLC show was the "hot" print during 2009 tour and the price barely reached $200 during the hype (a few sold for a bit more).  Today, that print would be on-line for $300 on the day of the show.

I recall there being huge poster hype back then, times have moved on - quantities seem to have dropped, and incomes have seemingly gone up, the DK craziness and Pitts 13 have changed the attitudes to this game dramatically. 

To be fair... the Flash sales posted on here seem to be contributing to the craziness you’re  describing.

JBob87

Go check out James Flames' IG if you want to see the type of labor that can go into creating one poster.

https://instagram.com/p/Bf817kSA3lH/embed/

Some of these artists may not have the ability to crank out 3000-5000 prints for a show. Or frankly the interest in committing the time to doing so. 

stickman

hihobibo said:

Are there any other bands with poster collectors as rabid as PJ/EV fans? By that, I mean are there other bands where fans buy any poster, and not just shows they attended?  Its rare I see any other posters sold out on artist sites except for the PJ/EV ones. Are these just more limited? Foo Fighters, 311, and QOTSA all seem to come out with cool posters too, but rarely do they sell out. 

The posters at Jack White shows this summer have sold out at the shows I went to. I was shocked when I said to the Merch Guy: “I will take a poster” and he said “That will be $80.00.”  I still had to spend $5.00 on a tube for my $80.00 poster.

Tim Simmons

MayDay10 said:

I would think logistics and labor was probably a bit of a pain for 10c

I have always assumed this is why they don't do pre-orders (with either shipping, or pickup at a booth at the show). I can't fault them for that. 

Tim Simmons

I think upping the prices of posters to $40-$45 and limiting it to one per person (maybe a scan of the ticket stub to verify), would greatly improve the situation. 


But I get at the end of the Day 10c/PJ just doesn't want to be left with stock, so the current way minimizes this (which is why they don't just print 6,000 posters.